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a buddy just emailed me with new york regulations and i wonder if any new yorkers can confirm.

4 fish at 19.5 inches. season open all year.

comments?

that is the propesed limit, and most likely will stick.
19.5 is a pretty big Fluke, but the main thing is the limit of 4 fish.
This is going to kick the party boaters/charters right were it hurts.

According to the DEC those are the correct limits but nobody informed the magazine "The Fisherman" because they still have limits being 18"min/4 fish possession, open 5/6-9/12. This is as of the early April edition.

Ya, most of the mags and web sites are still not updated, and I do not think any of the regs are set in stone yet, but i doubt they are going to change. here in RI we have 7 fish @ 19, season from 5/18 - 9/something I think.

This was released 4/24/2007

DEC ANNOUNCES REVISIONS TO 2007 RECREATIONAL
MARINE FISHING REGULATIONS
Changes, Effective Immediately, Necessary To Meet Federal Requirements for Fluke

The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) today announced changes in 2007 recreational fishing regulations for summer flounder, also known as fluke. The new emergency regulation, which is effective immediately, opens the season year-round and raises the size limit to 19.5 inches total length. This change is expected to achieve a federally-required reduction in the number of summer flounder harvested by recreational anglers in New York.

The emergency regulation increases the 2006 length regulation of 18 inches by 1.5 inches, to 19.5 inches, and removes the limited season dates of May 6 to September 12 thereby allowing fluke fishing all year long. The daily possession limit will remain at four fish per angler.

The emergency regulation was chosen from among several options available to DEC because it will be most effective in helping sustain the recreational fishing opportunities and positive economic impacts that fluke fishing provides, while also meeting federal requirements to protect the fishery. The changes reflect input received from anglers, party and charter boat associations, other stakeholder organizations, and the Marine Resources Advisory Council.
New York State participates in the cooperative management of migratory marine fisheries under the Interstate Fishery Management Program of the Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission (ASMFC). Under that program, ASMFC adopts Interstate Fisheries Management Plans (FMPs) for individual species or groups of fish and determines if states have implemented provisions of FMPs in a timely manner. If ASMFC determines a state to be in non-compliance with an FMP, the Commission notifies the U.S. Secretary of Commerce. If the Secretary concurs in the non-compliance determination, the Secretary may promulgate and enforce a complete prohibition on all fishing for the species in the waters of the non-compliant state until the state comes into compliance with the FMP.

Under the FMPs for fluke, ASMFC assigns each state an annual harvest target or “quota.” The state’s harvest for the upcoming year is projected, assuming regulations remain the same and harvest patterns and rates remain the same as the previous year. If the projected harvest exceeds a state’s assigned quota, the state must, as an FMP compliance requirement, make its harvest regulations sufficiently more restrictive to prevent the state from exceeding its assigned quota. ASMFC reviews, and must approve, each state’s regulations as compliant with the FMP.

Without the regulatory change, New York’s projected fluke harvest for 2007 would exceed the state’s assigned quota by 49 percent. The regulatory changes in the emergency rule announced today are projected to achieve a harvest reduction of approximately 56 percent for fluke, keeping New York in compliance with the FMP. New York’s commercial quota has also been significantly reduced in 2007 to 619,123 pounds, down from 935,943 pounds of fluke in 2006.

For additional information about the regulations, contact DEC’s Marine Resources Division at 631-444-0435. Marine fishing regulations can be viewed on the DEC website at: http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d...h/swflaws.html

The Department is proposing to adopt the emergency rule as a permanent rule. Public comments on the proposed rulemaking may be sent to DEC for consideration by writing to: Fishing Regulations, DEC Marine Resources, 205 N Belle Mead Rd, Ste 1, E Setauket, NY 11733-3400; or by email at [email protected] . The public comment period on the proposed regulation ends on June 25, 2007.

Yeah I guess if it just came down yesterday it'll hit the mags soon. You're right about the charter boats. They're gonna get killed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie_the_tuna

a buddy just emailed me with new york regulations and i wonder if any new yorkers can confirm.

4 fish at 19.5 inches. season open all year.

comments?

better than no fluke season.....which is a distinct possibility next year

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie_the_tuna

a buddy just emailed me with new york regulations and i wonder if any new yorkers can confirm.

4 fish at 19.5 inches. season open all year.

comments?

better than no fluke season.....which is a distinct possibility next year

Phester, where do you run out of?

Never mind. North shore L.I. ;)

phes, 19.5 is almost no season.
werent alot of 18's available to me last season.
main problem: all my big fish spots are to snotty to bring the boys to.
gonna be targeting searobins this year.

man, i know i'm fix'n to catch hell for this one fellas..................what's a fluke?

a fluke is what you southerners call a flounder.

hey thanks charlie, thats what i thought but was'nt sure so i figured i would give you all the opportunity to give me heck about it and ask a stupid question.

y'know, my pops used to say "the only stupid question is the one a southerner asks".

he is a wise man.

ok jackasses. . . . . it was a joke.

lighten the phuk up.

awwwwwwwwwwwwww.... ya had to go there huh? that's what i was lookn for!

The reports from the commercial guys out off of Montauk is that they are pulling some big fish :o, but you are right, you will need to travel and put your time in to find them.

the commercial guys will not only find the fish but they will decimate the stock as well. they are killing us with regulations and the big guy doesnt suffer.

I'm talking about the rod/reel comm guys, but you are right. The draggers need to actually lower there size limit or get rid of it all together and base there catch on total weight, this way there will be allot less dead undersized fluke floating around. But thats a whole new topic.
Good luck in NY, withthe way its going, RI (were I am from) will be right behind you. (we are @ 7 fish @ 19')

I don't live or fish in NY, But here in Ma a 19 1/2 fish is a biggie!!
Here the recerational have to get 17 1/2 and a bag of 7 fish. and I say why even go for them?

$3 for gas and a day of fishing and hope to get 17 1/2 fish let alone 7 of them!

The dragers are killing everything here!! State has allowed the dragers in the 3 mile limt and you are offten fishing right next to the dragers, and when you go to the fish house all the dragers have are HUGE JUMBOS!! what happened to all there small?? I will tell you they culled them out and throw them back DEAD!

Lots of talk the last few years of a Saltwater Lic. here in MA, I have already sent letters out, I will never buy one! What are they doing for the recreation guy? They can't stock the fish, they keep cutting access to the water, and now they don't even protect the inshore water from over fishing!
Recerational fisherman is what keeps the ecomony going!! not the draggers! We buy the boats, gas, rods, tackle, bait, ect ect ect...

This is why I have never gave up my Commercial Lic. I can get 14" fish 200 pounds a day, and that use to be easy!! Not so now a days!!

RANT OVER