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jamesbalog 12-29-2016 01:30 PM

1981 mercury trim pump/motor
 
Hello, my trim pump needs oil added to it and well the plug for the fill hole will not come out. The head for the screwwas made of plastic and broke as soon as i put any pressure on it. Hoping there was some metal under the plastic head i tried an easy out and lets just say the whole plug is eaten up and isnt going to come out. Is there any other way to get oil into this reservoir besides the hole designed to take it?


i was just going to buy a new motor/reservoir but i cant seem to find what im looking for. There seems to be 4 different pumps that match the model year and none of them look like what i have. I also cannot find a part number on the one i do have. ive attached some pics of what i have, would any of you happen to know what it is and where i could find a replacement?


thanks in advance

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Destroyer 12-30-2016 08:04 AM

Hi James. A detailed (close up) pic of the plug/hole will help. Trying to assess the damage and if it's possible to put a drill/tap/plug or a drill/heli-coil/plug into it and save the pump. :head:
Thanks

jamesbalog 12-30-2016 06:52 PM

I'll get a close up tomorrow.

What I'm really interested in is finding a replacement before I destroy this one anymore trying to fix it.

jamesbalog 01-02-2017 03:08 AM

snow has prevented me from getting a pic, it should all be melted tomorrow or tuesday and ill get that. I have made some progress in finding a replacement.

here is the link to the replacement dipstick (the thing i have mangled in my current motor)

http://mercuryperformance.com/89499-...ck-p-7879.html

Here is the closest thing i can find to the motor that is on the boat. Im sure it will function correctly but Im not so sure the mounting bracket i have will work on this motor. Even if it wont i can figure out a way to mount it to the boat so i will pull the motor and start messing with it more. Id much rather buy a 15 dollar plug than a 200 dollar motor.

https://www.dbelectrical.com/product...5-92459a4.html

Destroyer 01-02-2017 03:57 PM

Is your engine an inline 6 outboard? Also know as a tower of power?

phatdaddy 01-02-2017 05:56 PM

Probably more to it, but in the exploded view, looks like the bowl is held on by one screw,#10. Can u drop the bowl and get to the back of the dipstick.

Destroyer 01-03-2017 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatdaddy (Post 230849)
Probably more to it, but in the exploded view, looks like the bowl is held on by one screw,#10. Can u drop the bowl and get to the back of the dipstick.

Was thinking the same thing Phat. From the exploded parts view looks like it should be a fairly simple job to take it apart.. then put a wrench on it and turn out the dipstick from the inside.:head:

jamesbalog 01-05-2017 01:16 AM

sometimes i way over think things and miss the simple explanation.

it does appear i can just drop the bowl and be done with it. will try it tomorrow and report back

jamesbalog 01-05-2017 05:41 PM

Well Phat and Destroyer were correct. One screw to pull the bowl off which gave easy access to the dipstick. Took a whole 30 seconds to get apart, wish I would have payed attention and thought simple way earlier in this process.


The dipstick wouldn't budge turning it from the inside either. It broke off before it started to turn out. But I was able to easily drill it out from the inside. Now I just need to clean the threads up a bit and order a new dipstick.


Thanks for the help guys

bigshrimpin 01-05-2017 07:40 PM

James - PM me if you want a set of new hoses for that motor/pump. I think I have some kicking around the garage that are essentially brand new. There are all yours if you want them.

jamesbalog 01-06-2017 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigshrimpin (Post 230902)
James - PM me if you want a set of new hoses for that motor/pump. I think I have some kicking around the garage that are essentially brand new. There are all yours if you want them.

Thanks Pm Sent

jamesbalog 02-20-2017 07:05 AM

Here is an update

I got everything put back together and added new oil. The trim motor will run but the outboard will not move.

The hoses were off for a month or more so im sure air got into the system. I cant seem to get the air bled/hoses primed with fluid. Ill mess with it again today and if i cant figure it out im going to hire someone who can.

i figured adding some oil would take all of 5 minutes and ive spent countless hours on this dumb thing, I Should have just left it alone to begin with, im past the point of fed up.


Anyone have any suggestions before this thing drives me crazy?

bradford 02-21-2017 10:55 PM

Something about sleeping dogs, cans of worms, and nothing working on an old boat except it's owner.

jamesbalog 02-24-2017 09:36 AM

The next day i went out and did the exact same thing i was doing the night before but this time it worked.

Motor is operational and we got to go fishing Wednesday and Thursday

Destroyer 02-24-2017 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesbalog (Post 231487)
The next day i went out and did the exact same thing i was doing the night before but this time it worked.

Motor is operational and we got to go fishing Wednesday and Thursday

Whoot!!!! Congrats!!!! :clap:


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