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mac83 08-29-2015 07:36 PM

92 v20 steplift thoughts
 
Thinking about pulling the trigger on this one guys... It has a 350 with a Volvo duo prop? Thought on that setup?

bradford 08-30-2015 12:11 PM

I like a 350, and volvo is good stuff, though expensive when you need parts usually.

mac83 08-30-2015 08:26 PM

So this the rundown on the boat...tried to put all the details in here from talking with owner.
1992 wellcraft v20 steplift. Fir stringers replaced, new electric fuel punp, rebuilt carburetor, volvo duo- prop outdrive, rebuilt late model 350 ci engine less than 10 hr. Run time. Trailer-1998 venture 4 new tires , new rotors, new spare tire, stainless steel brbkes electric winch
Asking 7500

What are everyone's thoughts... A little concerned since stringers have been replaced

smokeonthewater 08-30-2015 08:51 PM

Replaced stringers are a huge red flag.... Depending on what was done you could have a great hull or total garbage.... Electric fuel pump MAY be a red flag... Is it SUPPOSED to have an electric pump???? Is it a properly installed marine pump???

$7500 sounds a bit steep to me if it is anything less than pristine.

Do you have a link to an add you can put up?

mac83 08-31-2015 05:27 AM

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No he took it off Craig's list so there is no link... I have a picture but can't figure out how to post it

smokeonthewater 08-31-2015 06:22 AM

Are you dead set on an i/o?
http://richmond.craigslist.org/boa/5192351225.html

mac83 08-31-2015 09:41 AM

No, but I really like the closed transom.

willy 09-01-2015 02:59 PM

I would find out who did the stringers first, ask for pics and post em. There are right ways and wrong ways to do it and guys here will tell you right away.
Also, when stringers are bad enough to be replaced often the transom is soft too. Not always, as Wellcraft was notorious for not finishing the holes they drilled through them to allow drainage so a lot depends on long they were soaking away. Also, were the whole stringers replaced or just a small area where the motor mounts are located, which is also common on inboard engine mounts.
I owned a 92 and it was a great boat but I think you are paying too much for the boat if you stay near the asking price.
I hear your concern for the closed transom which I also liked but the design on the Wellcrafts was pretty good at keeping water out, especially with that late of year as Wellcraft raised the floor almost two inches starting around 1998 for better function of the floor scuppers for any water that comes over board. And unless you over weighted the stern with a too heavy motor which some do it is a very dry boat pretty much all years. After a certain year I believe was around mid 80's they all had a wall around the motor well which kept any water from splashing on board from the stern.
As far as that center counsel posted it looks nice but it appears they cut down the transom to run a 20" shaft motor for some reason. I don't know why.

smokeonthewater 09-01-2015 06:56 PM

I don't think it was cut... That's a V-18.... Wasn't 20" standard?

mac83 09-01-2015 07:00 PM

I'm gonna pass on this one guys... Still looking

willy 09-01-2015 07:30 PM

Your right Smoke, I just assumed V20 and did not pay attention. It happens when you hit 60:haha:

Striper80 09-01-2015 07:43 PM

Loved my v 18. Just figured I'd throw that out there.

phatdaddy 09-01-2015 08:03 PM

love to add an 18 to the quiver

smokeonthewater 09-01-2015 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willy (Post 223564)
Your right Smoke, I just assumed V20 and did not pay attention. It happens when you hit 60:haha:

Eh don't feel bad... I have to admit, I thought it was a V-20 when I posted it...

Guess it happens at 40 too ;-)

mac83 09-06-2015 03:55 PM

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/5209179401.html

This just popped up in my area

mac83 02-23-2016 08:50 PM

So it looks like this one is for sale again.... Any new thoughts... It's a beautiful boat


http://www.boattrader.com/listing/19...lift-102655458

bradford 02-23-2016 10:25 PM

If is checks out it's hard to find a boat in that condition for that money. The owner is losing his *** for what it's worth.

mac83 03-10-2016 08:21 PM

So I went out and did a thorough check. Boat looked great everywhere except where there use to be a small swim ladder. It looks to be repaired professionally but did have some moisture according to meter where the three screw holes where. Everything looked good from the inside looking at the transom and motor mounts. What do y'all think? It's defiantly a nice boat. What do you think a fair offer price is? I'm waiting to get an appointment with my compression guy to make sure engine is sound.

bradford 03-11-2016 09:47 PM

All boats have some moisture. Most of them sit outside their entire life not to mention being run the the drink. That's a pretty clean rig if you ask me. If the engine checks out bring the full amount with you in 100s and 50s, and negotiate lower to see if he'll bite. No matter what, if it were a brand new boat, you'll end up having to spend money on her somewhere down the road.

mac83 03-26-2016 05:38 PM

So I've got a bit of an update...

Since last post, I have put a conditional buy on this boat upon successful compression test, survey, and boat ride.

Compression test went as followed.
1-185
2-195
3-190
4-190
5-190
6-195
7-195
8-185

He said gear oil was really dirty, but no signs of water.

Power steering hose is cracking but not leaking yet.

Thermostat is either stuck open or not one on engine bc there was no heat in engine.

Next, we took boat for a ride. Everything was great until we got it up around 3000-3500 RPMs...engine started hesitating like water was in the fuel. I know the boat has been sitting and not sure if fuel was treated or anything...what is everyone's thoughts.

mac83 03-26-2016 07:01 PM

I was just reading about electric water pumps and how the are necessarily not a good thing....could this be why he wasn't getting any temp reading over 80 on the dash? Do you think electric water pump is a bad thing. I remember when I originally posted that someone said is the engine suppose to have an electric water pump?

spareparts 03-26-2016 08:28 PM

electric water pump for your engine????? It shouldnt have one, Lets start all over, what kind of engine do you have?

mac83 03-26-2016 10:09 PM

350 with a Volvo duo prop outdrive

spareparts 03-27-2016 08:26 AM

should have a belt driven or crankshaft driven raw water pump, I doubt an electric pump could keep it cool at high rpms

mac83 04-13-2016 08:00 PM

Update... So owner paid to have carb completely redone because it was hesitating really bad on test run. Today, they went to run it and had a knocking vibration. Sounds like the engine is done. Owner said I can have the whole thing for 2k but I don't know how much it'll cost me to repower? What are yalls thoughts on this one. Should I just walk?

mac83 04-13-2016 08:04 PM

Engine was supposedly rebuilt but I'm thinking upper was done but not the lower. I was just checking eBay for some prices and it looked like cheapest was about 3500? That sound right? Or no

THEFERMANATOR 04-13-2016 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac83 (Post 226700)
Engine was supposedly rebuilt but I'm thinking upper was done but not the lower. I was just checking eBay for some prices and it looked like cheapest was about 3500? That sound right? Or no

You can get engines for a good bit less if you know how to shop for one. The question is, can you install it, or do you need somebody else to do it. Keep in mind when you're figuring the cost, most shops are goign to charge you big $$$$ to do one. They know how much work is going to be involved in getting all those rusted up bolts and such broke loose, releveling the engine, and everythign else that will go into it. I could easily see you spending $5K if you have to pay somebody else to do this by the time it's all said and done. This could easily be more or less as there are so many variables that are unknown until you get in there. I would say his price is to high if it has engine problems because then you're also taking a gamble on the outdrive and everything else that you can't test run before buying.

gw204f 04-14-2016 08:24 AM

Is that the V20 listed by Affordable Yacht Sales?

mac83 04-14-2016 11:52 AM

Yes it is.

mac83 04-14-2016 12:21 PM

Think I'm gonna pass guys...


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