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bgreene 05-12-2015 08:29 PM

Steering goes away...........
 
Yup, off Asbury Park, ocean, steering goes pop, goodbye.

Waited 3 hours for SEATOW, but that's another story.........

Shorted out something too. Not the best of fishing days.

Repair planned for next week.

Blue_Runner 05-13-2015 08:55 AM

hydraulic or cable?

Had a cable pop on the lake running about 25 mph. She took a hard right and was able to get off plane before I hit a dock. Thank goodness I wasn't running 40+. Replaced with another cable, that one got goofed up too, so went hydraulic after that. It has been worth the $

capt chuck 05-13-2015 04:02 PM

Get Boat US and hydraulic steering

smokeonthewater 05-13-2015 05:44 PM

Once when I had a steering cable break I lashed a boat hook to the motor and kept going w tiller steering

Another time the steering cable failed on my 10' jet boat so I disconnected it at the nozzle and kept going... I steered by moving my body weight side to side.

tow boat? we don't need no stinking tow boat... lol

step up here 05-13-2015 07:46 PM

I had sea tow also had a bad experience and it was not on my boat. I agree I now have Boat US!!! :rule::fight:

bgreene 05-13-2015 08:16 PM

I wrote a complaint and submitted it to SEATOW, plus called them and posted on Bass Barn.

No joke...... waited a total of 3 hours while the tow captain originally told me 1 hour.

steplift20 05-13-2015 08:25 PM

Off asbury ? See any great whites out there

THEFERMANATOR 05-13-2015 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 221532)
I wrote a complaint and submitted it to SEATOW, plus called them and posted on Bass Barn.

No joke...... waited a total of 3 hours while the tow captain originally told me 1 hour.

Better hope they don't try and say it was a salvage, and they take your boat through a backdoor title lien for the tow. Theres PLENTY of cases of seatow doing just this to MANY boaters who were in no danger, but seatow called it a salvage instead of a tow, and stoal there boats in the process. You might not even know about it for several weeks while they file the paperwork. Do a search if you don't think it's happened before.

bgreene 05-13-2015 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR (Post 221535)
Better hope they don't try and say it was a salvage, and they take your boat through a backdoor title lien for the tow. Theres PLENTY of cases of seatow doing just this to MANY boaters who were in no danger, but seatow called it a salvage instead of a tow, and stoal there boats in the process. You might not even know about it for several weeks while they file the paperwork. Do a search if you don't think it's happened before.

A. I have the SEATOW receipt showing the word written by the captain as TOWING .
B. We remained on the boat at all times - no claim of salvage possible.
C. Boat didn't sink so no salvage issue.

THEFERMANATOR 05-13-2015 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 221537)
A. I have the SEATOW receipt showing the word written by the captain as TOWING .
B. We remained on the boat at all times - no claim of salvage possible.
C. Boat didn't sink so no salvage issue.

They've been known at least down here in S Florida to not give receipts, just the tow. They don't have to remove you from your boat to consider it a salvage, all they have to say is you were in eminant danger, and the tow was for your safety. There were a couple of documented cases of boats that were not taking on water, but they put a pump on board just in case and claimed it was a salvage operation. If you do some searches on it, you will drop SEATOW in a blink of an eye over there shady tactics they have used.

spareparts 05-14-2015 06:44 AM

around here it was the complete opposite for a while, the Boat US guy were crooks and the Sea Tow guys were the way to go. Boat US was getting ready to yank the franchise(the guy was actually up on piracy charges) when he sold the operation. Now Boat US is pretty god and we have a decent Tow Boat as well. I think it charges from area to area. There hour wait is about normal, you're lucky it wasn't longer.

AS far as getting in with out steering, I put a full hitch knot over the cowl of a Johnrude with a broken cable once, cleated each end of the rope off and idled back in. We turn the boat by shifting our weight from one side to the other. I drove a Mastercraft ski boat with a broken cable by putting an adjustable wrench on the rudder arm and steered it like a tiller

macojoe 05-14-2015 03:00 PM

My first boat had the old pully & cable system, that lost a mounting bolt on one of the pully holders one day in the canal, my buddy sat on transom hugging the motor all the way in to steer us!! lol

bgreene 05-14-2015 06:09 PM

Likely going hydraulic....and that should be that....

Destroyer 05-14-2015 06:11 PM

On one of my previous boats the cable snapped. Tied the engine so it was pointing/pushing straight ahead and used my emergency paddle as a rudder to steer the boat. Worked perfectly.

phatdaddy 05-14-2015 06:53 PM

i've had hydraulic fail also (split hose), ended up lashing a jbl magnum spear gun to the motor and tiller steering in

the daydreamer 05-15-2015 06:05 AM

We had a cable break whn we were coming in from bull island trying to out run a storm. My buddy sat on the transom and grabed the motor and i ran throttle shouting out stright,left more, now stright and so on. This was about 3 in the afternoon and it was almost pitch black outside and lighting all over the place.the icw was two to three. We made it to isle of palms and docked there. Now i have hyd steering so much better!! Bight the bullett!

bgreene 05-15-2015 01:45 PM

Well..........one time while landing on the moon, we over shot and risked fly by........
So, I dropped the anchor, and although it dragged for 1/4 mile, it eventually stopped our boat.......... I mean space craft.

bgreene 05-19-2015 05:13 PM

Going hydraulic..........that's right......hydraulic.

And maybe while I'm at it.........swap out the 200 HO for the 557 hp outboard. Figure should run 75 mph...maybe more.

That's my cousin........" he's got the fastest boat in the whole D county" !!!
( name the movie ? )

SkunkBoat 05-19-2015 07:53 PM

Live & Let Die

bgreene 05-19-2015 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat (Post 221613)
Live & Let Die

YES - we have a winner here folks, step aside and pick out a nice big prize for your little lady sir........ there we go, a big stuffed animal tiger is for you.

bgreene 05-26-2015 03:56 PM

Ran with the hydraulic steering 1st time Saturday, and can report:

1. Eliminated torque steer - even when turning from start and accelerating together.
2. Holds course much better, no tendency to turn to starboard.
3. More turns of the wheel full right to left........no big deal but may add the knob on wheel.

step up here 05-26-2015 04:31 PM

Don't forget try and get the knob with the naked lady!

captpete13 05-26-2015 09:23 PM

And don't forget to get TowBoatUS! You never know, next time I may be the one towing you in. And I promise you won't wait 3 hours.

bgreene 05-27-2015 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captpete13 (Post 221794)
And don't forget to get TowBoatUS! You never know, next time I may be the one towing you in. And I promise you won't wait 3 hours.

That's re assuring, thanks - and please remember to bring a pizza and beer.

Blue_Runner 05-27-2015 07:47 AM

I have an integrated knob on the wheel. I don't think I could live without it. Especially when docking, loading on the trailer, etc.

the daydreamer 05-28-2015 06:08 AM

a power knob as they are called is great when in close quarters,docking.putting boat on the lift or in a marina. I love mine!!

RidgeRunner 06-11-2015 02:33 PM

Yes all except for the fact that the steering knob is rarely in the same place twice. Hydraulic steering allows for a lot of slipping in the pump mechanism so the wheel does not center as many of you already know... Love the suicide knob on both my boats and the cheap knock-off's (NON-EDISON) work nice too...

I bought Kevlar Hydraulic hose while on the moon, Second worst fear is putting a hook thru it whilst fishing---Firstmost - Sea TOW! :ski:Rut Row!!!

Blue_Runner 06-11-2015 07:13 PM

Well I'm glad to know that slippage is common cause I thought maybe the reason my knob didn't stay in the same position is becuase air in the system....which I know I have some. There's some good bleeding vids on youtube, especially the one that allows you to do it alone. Planning on that for post season.


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