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smokeonthewater 03-17-2015 12:31 PM

Help me find a motor...
 
Well guys while I was home last week dealing with family stuff Dad and talked more than we have in many years.... He asked about my V and wanted to know what I planned to do w it... I told him it was one of the best blue water boats for it's size ever built and that I hope to eventually get it rigged up well enough to be able to make trips n do saltwater fishing off the east coast.... He got excited and wanted in so I told him I'd step up my efforts to get a motor on it I can trust offshore and he and I would go hunt down a moby dick of a tuna....

Losing mom made me realize just how little time we may have left and frankly lit a fire under me....

My old merc 115 TOP does run well but I just can't trust our lives to a 1975 engine that was designed for much better gas than we have now and has a fairly complex ignition system that is 40 years old and I'm not real sure how long the lower unit is gonna hold up as it had more water in it than I'm comfortable w when I got it and no idea how long it was in there.

I am just not in a position to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on a motor so I need some help.... I know somewhere out there is a deal and maybe one of you guys can spot it for me....

I would settle for a 110 or bigger but a 150-250 would probably be better.

I would LOVE a 4 stroke but I highly doubt I can afford one.

I'm very handy w a wrench but would rather not get into a full rebuild as I really doubt I'd end up saving any money going that route..

I've got an old merc 7.5 short shaft for a kicker.... Not great for big water but runs great so unless I find an amazing deal on a bigger one I'll run it.

bgreene 03-17-2015 02:05 PM

Finding an honestly good motor can be challenging...........or you can get lucky .

I've purchased a few......found by contacting boat dealers, motor dealers, craigslist etc.

I can tell you that I found ARG Marine in Florida to be a reputable source.
Reputable meaning they answered all questions, follow up was accurate, and motors I purchased were delivered in proper crates, condition , hours all as presented.

They have a web site and contact was Victor....if he's still there.

If you find they have a motor you want , I suggest you make offer rather than take list.

smokeonthewater 03-17-2015 02:27 PM

Thx... I looked but they don't have anything.... Honestly I probably need to find a private party deal.

phatdaddy 03-17-2015 06:50 PM

in your situation,being inland(at least i think you are), i'd look for merc opti that's been fresh water used. lots of them being switched out for 4 stroke and the optis get as good, if not better fuel mileage. they are more expensive to run with special oil and compressor issues, but spare of ferm can probably give you some insight on the better years.

i sold the rebuilt 200 and the blown 150 and all my 2 stroke parts for $1100. i looked hard at the opti, but like the simplicity of the merc 4s.

i know you travel a good bit, keep an eye on the atlanta craigs list, lotta boats on lake lanier.\

i've also found you can sometimes get a better deal on a boat motor and trailer than just a motor alone.

good luck, i'll keep my eye out

THEFERMANATOR 03-17-2015 08:43 PM

If you need a 20" shaft engine, watch screamandfly.com. Theres always good freshwater 20" shaft engines going up for sale over there. If you're on a budget, I would go with a 2.0L carbed 150 MERC. OPTI's are nice for fuel economy, but when a compressor goes, it's a $100 bill last I checked. My 2nd choice would be one of the 2.6L 150 YAMAHA's. It's a TOUGH engine with a PROVEn track record. Also decent on fuel with fair power. Theres alot of good engines out there, but finding one that isn't going to drink you out of house and home buying on a budget will be a challenge.

Monkey Butler 03-18-2015 09:17 AM

How about a 1986 Yamaha?
 
I have a 1986 V-6 Special that needs to be put together. Powerhead is in one piece. Located in Mass. Any interest?

smokeonthewater 03-18-2015 11:14 AM

Possibly, 20" shaft? Why is it apart?

Monkey Butler 03-18-2015 02:26 PM

25" shaft. It's the one on the boat in my sig. I found a newer 1991 that I now use.

I was going to replace the shift rod which turned out to be in good shape. Have most new gaskets, and a new exhaust adapter and tuner. Needs a tilt tube and it should have the lower resealed.

I'm thinking around $500

I'm also selling my Wellcraft 250 with a 1991 225hp and tandem trailer with brakes. I was going to wait til the weather warmed up to do clean it up and list it for more but pre-season to V20'ers is $3500

bgreene 03-18-2015 06:42 PM

Get on the phone and call all the dealers closest to you branching outward ....

Hello - do you have any good used outboard motors for sale ?

Do that 100 times and chances are you'll find it.

smokeonthewater 03-18-2015 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey Butler (Post 220068)
25" shaft. It's the one on the boat in my sig. I found a newer 1991 that I now use.

I was going to replace the shift rod which turned out to be in good shape. Have most new gaskets, and a new exhaust adapter and tuner. Needs a tilt tube and it should have the lower resealed.

I'm thinking around $500

Sounds like that might be a decent option.... Have you compression tested it? or can you?

Newer would be nice but if it's in good shape I could throw it together and man that ought to make a V20 scream.

I wonder if I can find a 20" mid section.... Might be able to use a jack plate... will have to look at the steering cable routing

smokeonthewater 03-19-2015 02:02 PM

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Found a pic of the boat from the stern and a jack plate should be no problem at all.

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smokeonthewater 03-22-2015 07:29 AM

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Striper80 03-22-2015 11:21 AM

My engine is going to be getting a fresh trim motor, it seized up over the winter.

yodaddy 03-23-2015 07:42 PM

Smoke - I've got a 225HP 1991 Yammy V6 25" I planned on selling this year. It came on an Aquasport 222 I picked up a few years ago, and has been sitting since. I started it up one time after I got the boat, and the motor fired right up and idled nicely. I checked the compression, and best I recall it was 125# on all cylinders except for 85# on the top left cylinder. I was going to soak that cylinder and see if it was just a stuck ring, but never got around to it.

The boat is out back and I won't be able to get to it until about 3' of snow melts, which could be another month.

I planned on asking $1500 on CL, and offering it here for $1000. If you're interested I'll get it out ASAP and give it a going over.

smokeonthewater 03-23-2015 08:53 PM

Striper, copy that

YoDaddy, yeah i could be interested if the compression comes back.... you don't have to rush tho... would be a couple/few months before I could get up there to get it... from here it would be a 4000 mile round trip but once I get home it'll only be an easy 2000 mile round trip :)

MB, still interested in yours too.... curious if you ever did a comp test on it?

Monkey Butler 03-23-2015 09:29 PM

Sorry to take so long to reply.

The motor had good comp all around 115-120 as i recall. I'd have to bolt on the starter and flywheel to spin it up now.

The paint is faded bad and there are a few stuck bolts in the mid to deal with but if you want a cheap kit motor

gw204f 04-08-2015 08:52 AM

I've got a 25" '95 Merc 225 EFI that I am looking to sell. Picked it up about 2 years ago for a 22' Grady bracket conversion project and haven't been able to finish. Not sure when the boat will be ready for a motor, so I figured I would go ahead and unload it so it's just not sitting around.

Ran well and compression was between 98 and 105 on all six when I bought it. Hours are unknown (on a Mercury factory replacment powerhead) and it got a new lower unit 3 years ago. Has been stored indoors since I got it and the seller told me he stabilized the fuel before we pulled it off his boat. I fogged the cylinders once I got it home. It could use paint on the cowlings.

Comes with gauges, binnacle control, wiring harnesses, oil tank and 22' (I think) 1 year old throttle/shift cables. All it needs is your steering.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...psuupy6beq.jpg

More pics are coming. Asking $2800, but I'll listen to offers.

smokeonthewater 04-08-2015 09:17 AM

Thx gw--- might eventually end up spending that much but at that price it would have to be a 20" shaft..... Sounds like a good deal for someone tho.

gw204f 04-09-2015 08:20 AM

Throw me an offer if you think it's something you might be interested in.

smokeonthewater 04-09-2015 09:42 AM

I'll keep it in mind.. Thx

smokeonthewater 04-16-2015 11:48 PM

Is this a money pit or a find?
02 Evinrude 115 w issues $1200
http://houston.craigslist.org/boa/4969156286.html

1995 Suzuki 140 $1150
http://houston.craigslist.org/bpo/4979418718.html

1985 johnson 115 $1600
http://houston.craigslist.org/boa/4961043028.html

Any thoughts?

Striper80 04-17-2015 05:32 AM

I've heard nothing good about the first one. The second one I have no idea and the price of the third one makes me want to cry after what I sold my 110 for.

THEFERMANATOR 04-17-2015 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeonthewater (Post 220851)
Is this a money pit or a find?
02 Evinrude 115 w issues $1200
http://houston.craigslist.org/boa/4969156286.html
RUN FOREST RUN! Avoid a FICHT with problems like the plague.
1995 Suzuki 140 $1150
http://houston.craigslist.org/bpo/4979418718.html
Good engine, but corrosion is a HUGE issue with them. SUZUKI used rather cheap aluminum castings that are notorious to corrode SEVERELY in salt water.
1985 johnson 115 $1600
http://houston.craigslist.org/boa/4961043028.html
Not a bad engine, just old technology. Also since it is an old tech crossflow engine, the fuel consumption will show it.
Any thoughts?

In red.

smokeonthewater 04-17-2015 09:26 AM

Thanks!

Kinda suspected the 02 was no go... Was really hopeful on the zuk but being houston it's surely been in salt.... Sad that the oldest and most expensive was the only prospect lol.

I assume there is no good way to tell if the zuk has corrosion probs until something fails right?


Striper there's a reason I wanted your 110....

phatdaddy 04-17-2015 10:23 AM

the old blue and white ones were made out of fizzies, the red and white and red and gold (I think) were a little better, but usually not much.

electrical parts for those are very expensive.

i'm biased, but if i was looking for a motor over 10 years old, i'd have a carbed merc my #1 choice. (92-02). parts are readily available and not horribly priced. omc's are not bad for the same reasons, i've just had better luck with merc's lower units and blocks coming apart after living in the salt.

smokeonthewater 04-17-2015 11:04 AM

You kinda lost me on the first two lines... You talking about the 02?

I DO like a merc... My kicker is a merc... That said at my price point I can't be too picky.

THEFERMANATOR 04-17-2015 11:19 AM

The 1st thing to look at on a SUZUKI is to check the lower unit for cracks where the prop slides in. They corrode and split where the propshaft supports goes in 1st. The problem is they also corrode internally in the lower portion of the powerhead, and SUZUKI didn't think to make the zincs inside the powerhead replaceable without tearing the engine apart. Even freshwater used SUZUKIs can corrode out fairly bad. My grandfather bought an old pontoon boat that had never left Missouri, and the 87 SUZUKI engine had pretty substantial corrosion inside of all the cooling system.

phatdaddy 04-17-2015 03:45 PM

Sorry smoke, talking about the suzukis.

Striper80 04-18-2015 06:02 AM

I'm thinking of selling my 130 25" shaft johnson. I had it for sale on here last year. I have a jack plate as well.

Starzofchaos 04-18-2015 07:21 AM

Give this guy a call...
http://vikingmarineservices.homestead.com/index.html

I talked to him the other day, he overhauls motors and has some used ones. Most are carb 2 two strokes.

Or you can contact this guy that is in Tampa. The Hull Truth has a lot of good reviews.
http://www.ebay.com/usr/franzenmarine?rt=nc

spareparts 04-18-2015 08:07 AM

115 Yamaha four strokes are starting to pop up on the used market pretty often. they are heavy, and not that powerful, but they are a good engine, I've seen them in the $2500-$3500 range pretty regularly, but like any used motor, they can be a money pit as well. Yamaha 150 are still bringing a premium >$5000

smokeonthewater 04-18-2015 02:58 PM

UGH... I don't know what to do..... Part of me says just hold off till I can afford more motor.... The yammy f115 would be mighty tempting but I wonder how well it would push my boat....

How do you think it would compare to my flywheel rated merc 115 TOP?

Looks like it would be close to 100 lbs heavier and what 30 hp more????


Talk to me Striper

Striper80 04-18-2015 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeonthewater (Post 220880)
UGH... I don't know what to do..... Part of me says just hold off till I can afford more motor.... The yammy f115 would be mighty tempting but I wonder how well it would push my boat....

How do you think it would compare to my flywheel rated merc 115 TOP?

Talk to me Striper

It's a 96 130 25" with 126 hrs on the brp rebuilt power head since 09. Trim pump, lower unit seals replaced in 2012 and have under 1 hr. The kicker is the boat it was on was in Sandy. If was on the trailer and got knocked around pretty good. The power head wasn't submerged. I brought the boat home in December and the engine fired right up.

smokeonthewater 04-18-2015 05:09 PM

sooo, How many moneys?

Striper80 04-18-2015 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeonthewater (Post 220882)
sooo, How many moneys?

I forgot that part. $1800 with the jack plate, controls, oil tank( replaced at the same time as the power head) and gauges. The binnacle might not work for you since its a side mount.

I don't really want to sell it, but a recent change has me thinking that I won't be able to complete my Grady, so I may have to.

Striper80 04-18-2015 05:58 PM

Pm me an email or phone number and I'll send u some pics.

smokeonthewater 04-18-2015 11:28 PM

Hmmm... Well honestly I can't use the controls and don't need the gauges...

I dunno man... If you had been closer to what you had on the 110... Of course I understand... You have a total package with this one.

Striper80 04-19-2015 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeonthewater (Post 220902)
Hmmm... Well honestly I can't use the controls and don't need the gauges...

I dunno man... If you had been closer to what you had on the 110... Of course I understand... You have a total package with this one.

I hear you. The 110 was a bit of an unknown engine to me and it was reflected in the price. This engine I owned and I'm somewhat reluctant to part with. Oh well you'll find one.

smokeonthewater 04-19-2015 10:19 AM

Thx man.... I'm a cheapass.... I know

smokeonthewater 04-19-2015 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeonthewater (Post 220880)
UGH... I don't know what to do..... Part of me says just hold off till I can afford more motor.... The yammy f115 would be mighty tempting but I wonder how well it would push my boat....

How do you think it would compare to my flywheel rated merc 115 TOP?

Looks like it would be close to 100 lbs heavier and what 30 hp more???

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