Pimp my V20
 

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im sorry but that is one ugly boat. >:(

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There's enough UGLY there for two boats... ::)... ::)...

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But Tin good deal on a bracket V20 that can always be repainted later.

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hey tin how much are you wanting to spend, and are you looking for a cc?

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Yes on the center console, price depends on the boat.

My needs are: Fly fishing friendly, handle 2-3' ers with no problem, able to sight fish the flats up North AND drift the rips, economical, easy to maintain and able to guide on.

Downsides of a V20:

A little more draft than I'd like, but may be doable

Won't be too economical unless It has, say a 140HP Suzie 4 stroke.

I could keep the Tin boat for the flats but would rather have a one boat does-it-all, which until now I thought was impossible.

I was on a 22' Panga the other day, not perfect, but close. I've done lots of research on these and it's all possitive for what I want out of a boat.

Downsides of the Panga:

Fit and finish is pretty lousy. All the hardware for hatches and things were coming loose...Nothing a little loctite couldn't fix. Looking down the hull sides it's quite wavy.

They are new so no deals on used ones yet.

Narrow beam and kind of ugly.

I can get a demo 22'er w/Johnson 90 carb 2-stroke, aluminum trailer for around $18k. Wish it was an E-tec but it's not.

Here's some pics, boat is exactly like this except a 90hp instead of the 115 shown.

It's more than I want to spend but for the reliabilty of a new boat and being guide ready, may be worth it. I would need electrnics though.....I'm so confused :o

Not crazy all about the color. But could live with it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...wide_cu1_l.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...22_wide1_l.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...console1_l.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a22_bow1_l.jpg

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For that much $$ you need to be able to pick your color - MHO.

Tin, me thinks you need 2 boats. Get yourself a little Sundance skiff or carolina skiff. I say sundance cause they make a B20 with the semi-v on the front which is similar to the Carolina Skiff 198 semi-v but wider and nicer in my opinion. When I was looking not too long ago I could have bought one brand new with new trailer and no motor for $7500. Add a 115hp for around 1500 and you've now got 9k in a dang good boat.

After that's all done and you're all happy and stuff, find you a V20 for all your serious fishing (over ankle deep that is).

Should be able to get a real nice used V-20 or V-21 for the other 9k you have left over after not buying that Panga.

I wish I had two boats (can you tell?). ;D

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Tin

ever see Jones Brothers Marine

http://jonesbrothersmarine.com/jbm_cape.htm

just a thought....

CBill

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CBill, yes about the Jones bros. Not crazy about the 14* deadrise, she's a bit of a rough rider but otherwise a great boat. Parker and Steigers also nice but same deadrise.

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No thanks on the skiffs...rather stick with my tin boat. Have you ever been in a CS in anything but calm conditons? Definately not for me.

2 boats = 4 registrations to renew, 2 motors, trailers and hulls to maintain. I really want to go with 1 boat.

I do like the older 20' Seacrafts, they have a 16* deadrise and ride pretty nice and draw only 12".

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One of my favorites is the Mckee Craft 196 Marathon CC (Franco's boat), 18* deadrise. Just not in my budget right now.

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Jones Brothers, Parker you guy's love our Carolina built boats huh lol Look where they build Jones Brothers Morehead City, NC just down the road from my beach place they make a really good looking 20 ft CC. But so does Parker.

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Here's a link to the 20 ft JB Click on the PIC
JB Cape 20

http://www.jonesbrothersmarine.com/assets/capef14.jpg

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Not just Carolina built boats.......those damn Yankees can build a mighty nice boat too :D

http://www.gboats.com/bow.html

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That thing is ABSOLUTLY %#$@* SWEEEEEEEEET!

Very nice, what kind of price tag comes with that ***ell?
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I like the panga... 8)...

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It's growing on me too. Here's a video of it underway, just wish the conditons were a little worse.

http://media.putfile.com/Panga-22-underway

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yeah sure its a cute little boat if you are going to stay strictly inside... a 22 footer with a 6 foot beam? little narrow for my taste. even their 28 has a 7 and change foot beam.

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http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/4/6/82148546.htm

here ya go.

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Sounds very economical.

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Do some research...I think you may be surprised on how well the Panga handles a moderate sea.

If you read the ad on the one you posted you would see that guy had his panga 40 miles out in 6 footers....stay inside? nah.

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Economical, draws little and handles the slop well. I'm gonna try and set up a demo ride soon.

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Tin got to tell ya, being a two boat owner for years I understand. But there is no boat that does it all well, everyone has to compromise something. Down here in Barnegat Bay, which is a huge and beautiful fishery they have a lot of what I would call flats, shallows that go for miles with all the assosisiated feeder streams and rivers. It's a fly fishermans dream and several guides targeting several species up to sharks there. The waters are tidal of course and two foot water becomes an island in some places quickly.My point being even an average shallow draft CC has problems in these areas and most of the guides are running the skinny water flats style boats and when working clients in the channels and inlets they are in a CC. Cause you don't want to be in a Panga with clients especially when the inlets do their daily wind/tide shifts.

That being said if you really want one boat to do both well you can't do it with a mono hull there is a boat that does both well, very well and that is a cat boat of one design or manufacture or another. When I was in Florida I saw these being used a lot by guides and we are seeing a bunch here in Jersey also. Shallow draft, very stable at sea, incredible ride and wide decks for fishing. There are enough out there where you can pick up used ones for a good price. If down the road when I hit the lottery and I want my one all around boat/new it will be a cat boat. I've been on two at sea and there reallyis nothing like them for ride and all around fishing performance JMHO

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And I think that Panga on boat trader, 40 miles off shore in 6 footers is one of the original Coral Reefers ::) spent to much time fitting in in Key West, lost himself.

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Well I don't know because I have never been aboard one but I can tell you from persoanl observations that the Panga style hull is currently the hull of choice for Columbian drug smugglers. Theirs are longer 30-35ish but they use the for extremely long offshore all weather voyages. Right or wrong, it is their business to know what works.

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hey tin i got news for you... i have been 40 out in 6 plus and it wasnt in no skiff... was in a 42 egg harbor and it was extremely unpleasant. im not going 40 out in a skiff in 6 inchers no matter what the add says.

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tell ya something else... been to the hudson in a 20 wahoo center and i been 20, 30, 40, and 50 in me old searay and i been at least 20 or more in my buds 21 robalo more times than i care to remember... guy can say whatever he wants in his ad... its his ad. cute as it is, and if i was going to fish flats i would probably check one out too, but its still a skiff and i aint fightin that skiff out jones inlet or any other inlet for that matter. far as im concerned thats a skiff and i aint goin outside in a skiff. >:(

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Hey Mirage,

Just noticed your sig. I've got the same CG license as you, Master 1600GT and Second Mate unlimited. I did stop sailing a few years back though. Are you sailing on yours? I was in American Maritime Officers Union, you?

Fishmaster, what some people find "extremely uncomfortable" other people are having fun. If you don't like the Panga, fine. I'm not here to have an "E" arguement with anyone ;D

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"Do some research...you're wrong."


i dont know, that sounds a bit argumentative to me... must have meant it in a good way. my mistake. :-/

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edited that post above, :)

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LOL I'll tell you guys what personally I think it's an ugly boat and def not a V20. If you guys want to take it out 40 miles i'll sit at the dock and once you get out of sight i'll call the USCG and tell them i think my friends in trouble he was last saw leaving the dock in a ugly drug runner looking dingy boat LOL.

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Hey Tinman:

Not to feed the fire :-) but I have been 30 miles out in a panga in 6 footers - IMO spend your money elsewhere.

You said you wanted a shallow draft, CC for flyfishing. I know it's a project but there are gorgeous when complete. If you poke around the site you'll find some real beauties in the photo galleries. The guys down south just love them for the flats

http://www.classicaquasport.com/foru...opic.php?t=672

Kamikaze

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Kamikaze, found this pic on that site - man what a wave!

http://www.classicaquasport.com/gall...upiter_fla.jpg

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guys you better not disagree with this jerk or he will insult and mock you... or maybe its just me. i guess i was wrong to have an opinion that differs from yours tinjerk. ok you are right. what a great boat that panga is. man i wish i had that panga. i would cross the atlantic in that panga. ugly little piece of crap that it is.

* * * * * * * * * *ass *hole!

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This is what I stated my needs are on page 1 of this thread:

My needs are: Fly fishing friendly, handle 2-3' ers with no problem, able to sight fish the flats up North AND drift the rips, economical, easy to maintain and able to guide on.

No where did I state I'd be taking this boat 30, 40, 50 or a 1,000,000 miles offshore in 6+ footers???

I'm a professional Mariner, know how to monitor weather, taken more lifesaving, firefighting, navigation classes etc...etc... and think I'm pretty smart.

Show me a NEW (not some project)complete package boat that fits the above requirements for around $18k and I'm all ears.

No need to tell me about ALL the boats that have been around for years, believe me, I know about them already.

Let's not turn this thread into a bashing match. Gees, this thread started about a pimped out V20??

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hehe...exactly what I expected from someone of your caliber...too funny, thanks for the chuckle.

oh...it's just you :-*

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Tin i know you don't want a project but if you find a restored Sea Ox 1900, 2000, or 2100 they are shallow draft and can go out a fairly good ways. I've been 11 miles out off NC coast in a 1900 Sea Ox. It did really well. So i found one for me to redo as a Skiff /slightly Offshore. The guy that bought Sea Ox's molds is in Bridgeton, North Carolina area Tyndall Marine makes a 17, 18, and 19 i think.

http://www.tyndallmarine.com/

http://www.tyndallmarine.com/sea4.JPG

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Thanks skools...I've always liked the SeaOx's. Fished offshore many times on a 25' walkaround.

I don't see anything bigger than a 17' on tyndall's site???

edit: they do mention a 19' flats boat but don't see it.

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he makes them call him and see what all he has he is a builder of all sizes i like how he has a high bow and low transom. they handle rough water well.

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Aren't some of the older Mako's pretty shallow draft? Very similar to that Aquasport 222, if not the same exact hull?