Larger boat discussion
 

I value all of you gents opinions on boat matters, I am beginning to look for a larger boat for my future use (to be purchased in the next couple years) and would like to hear your ideas on what to look for, here are my general ideas:

I like the idea of a center console boat, especially the ones that have a one level floor (like a Contender for example). The main thing I didn't like about the Grady-White Sailfish I had BC (before children) was that half the boat was cabin and wasted fishing space.

I want a boat big enough to fish comfortable offshore with 3 or 4 people fishing (the V-20 is great for 2, ok for 3) but not burn 200 gallons of gas in a day. It also has to trailer well for Keys trips.

I know I cant afford anything new, but would like the boat to be 1994 or newer with modern power (you know I like 4 strokes), I am leaning toward a single outboard because with twins all costs seem to double. Ideally I would like to find a well cared for boat with original power and repower.

So boats on my radar so far are:

Contender 23 (mid 90's to early 2000's)
Contender 25 (pre built in bracket, not opposed to the euro transom, they just get too pricey)
1995 and up (no wood) Proline 240 Sport(or one of its other designations: 23 Sport, 25 Sport...the one with a bracket not the euro transom)
Pro line 23 sport (the Donzi hulled euro transom)
Grady White center console (like the 247)
Parker 2300 (hard to find)
Sea Pro 220
Sea Craft 23 (also hard to find)

So what do yall know about these and what other ones should I look at?

I am not 100% set on CC, I have always liked the GW 225-T Dually.

Thanks in advance.

Sea Craft 23 is my personal first choice

Contender, Sea Vee, Albermarle, White Water, Formula etc are all basically the same hull, the longer you go, the better it gets. Gradys and Whalers are over priced. Scouts look good, but are way too much money and don't ride that good. Pro Lines are good boats, but they aren't in the same league as the previous ones(they are priced accordingly, so you may get much bigger for the $)

I hate to say this, its not my favorite, or classic, but look hard at the Sea Hunts and Key West. The odds of finding one of these that came with a four stroke is much higher than finding an older boat that was repowered (and valued) with a newer engine. Look at the larger McKee's also(not the traditional foamed filled tri hulls). They are nothing like the smaller boats, they are out of business now, but the bigger boats were pretty nice, and extremely over built. We had a 23 TE parked beside my friends 25 Sea Vee, the McKee was much bigger.

I agree about the Seacraft 23. Also you can find deals on older hulls that have been recently restored and add new power for a pretty good price sometimes if you would go pre 94. Contenders are nice, but I think they are sometimes like Whalers and your paying for the decal on the side sometimes. I like the older Prolines, if I was gonna run a Parker it would be for the pilot house. I also like the Sea Hunts, probably one of the better looking mass produced hulls made these days in my opinion. Again, find a sweet restored hull and hang new power and you'll come out ahead I think. I'll post up some I find on craigslist, with and without power.

I am not set on 94 or newer, just trying to keep up my trend of 10 years newer each boat...'74 Starcraft, '84 V-20, '94 ????, but the year doesn't matter as long as its a good boat that fits my needs (wants).

I saw a couple real sweet looking Contender 23's that had been recently painted, one even had a 2010 ETEC on it, but they were at the top of my price range.

What do yall know about an Aquasport 225 or 245 Osprey?

There was a guy in BPK a couple weeks ago with an inboard diesel Seacraft that looked like a show boat...it was awesome, but I could not use a straight inboard with the ramp and docks I use at the coast.

Even with its smelly 2 smoke motor, I really like this one.

http://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/boa/4555505478.html

DUSKY 233 if you want a bigger V-20 hull. DUSKY took the classic V-20 hull, and made it even bigger in there 233. Not the fastest of hulls, but it has the big bow flare, moderate deadrise, and good sea keeping abilities.

23 is the best size to be trailered and large! Up here I know of 3 people with Seacraft and love them! two havw had contender and got rid of for the Seacraf.

That Contender is a good hull, I'll keep my opinions about teh motor to myself. That hull will handle rough water better than the V, but you'd be surprised as how little room it has inside compared to teh V. As far as that goes, teh 23 Sea Craft center console is pretty small as well, especially when you compare it to a 23 Sea Craft Scepter/Tsunami. Best thing for you to do is go to a redneck boat show, otherwise known as cruising the marinas and the dry stacks, look at as many boats as you can. Get a feel of the size and amenities. If you come down this way, I'll show you around.

ditto on the dusky. 23 with a dusky drive (bracket) is a great hull and still trailerable. i personally like ***8224;he ones with a small cuddy up front. it's just large enough to stow some gear that you want to stay dry.

I like that Dusky too...not many around here to go look at though.

The lack of room in the rear of a CC is a concern, thats why I like the looks of the Proline 240 and the GW CC's, they have the console mounted more forward.

The Proline 23 sport around 2001-2003 looks good too, its a 25' Donzi hull called a 23 for the old SKA 23' and under class.

I am with you on the ETEC Spare, but it NADA's for like $13K used so I could sell it and get a new 4 stroke to replace it...but I wont do anything until winter when people need Christmas money.

All the Seacrafts I am finding are either basket cases or rebuilt and crazy priced.

I ran across a Donzi cabin boat a while back(not a walk around, it was an I/O) that was for sale, i tried to talk Ridge Runner into buying it. It was a beast of an hull. Seems like it was a cross over from the hydra sports when OMC owned them boat. Looked to be one heck of a boat. Center consoles bring far more money on average than cuddys, don't ask me why. Centers use up a lot of space in the boat, unless you plan on fishing off the bow, I'd rather have a cuddy and the extra room. Speaking of Hydra sports, thats anoterh choice to look at, I know some one down here that has a cuddy hyrda sport fixer upper that can be bought right. I also forgot, look hard at Pursuits/Tierra/Slick Crafts they made some awesome boats and have glass stringers(no rot to worry about)

I am trying to only look at boats that have limited wood in the hulls.

What motor is on this boat?

http://greenville.craigslist.org/boa/4573330866.html

Opinions on this motor?

http://charleston.craigslist.org/boa/4566666572.html

good motor, Proline used to use a lot of wood in their boats, not sure on that year, but 80's thru early 90's had plenty of wood

Sailfish, or Regulator. I really want the 23 Sailfish and twin 200's. Hull sides in Orange. 9' beam and VDR hull that the Seacraft bunch creams their pants over.. They are a big freakin hull. Not sure of the quality, but I likes the looks of the hull.

1995 is when they went woodless according to the internet.

Forgot about the sail Fish as well. The early Sailfish were direct copies of SeaCrafts, they got the right idea and made a larger beam version of the hull while seacraft missed the boat and still made the traditional narrow beam

That's a late Fichte aka 1st gen brp built engine. Not bad engines and got the best economy of any engine built IMO. Still wouldn't have one.

Great engine, just a bit thirsty.

They started in 94 with the fist technology which was the wordless design.

Randleman, I don't know what you're looking to spend, or what they cost for that matter, but Dusky sells factory direct and will custom build your boat with the options you want, and nothing you don't want. You can even change the lay up schedule. Probably will cost more, but you would get exactly what you want.

http://www.dusky.com/

I keep seeing that blue contender on craigslist. With the euro transom and the big console in the middle of the deck I think you'll find your V20 has a lot more room for fishing. Ever thought about a Wellcraft 248 Offshore?

That would be ideal, but I doubt I could afford a new boat. Although I havent set a firm budget, I am thinking I should be able to get something pretty good for around $20-25K.

I know the prices are always much lower in the winter time, just looking now so I know if a deal comes along then.

That boat does look a little cramped in the back but has the flat floor to the bow, I would definately spend some time on one before buying. A guy who is at the campground in the Keys every time I am there has a Avanti 25....it would be perfect. But they are not for sale in my price range even used. I think they are the old Contenter 25 hull, before they started the eurotransom thing.

I have searched for Wellcraft CC's, havent seen many, mostly V-20's.

I will do some searching on Sailfish, I have seen them around here.

Those Sea Hunt's look nice in pictures.

Searched for Hydrasports, they are all 20' or 33 ' it seems.

Those Sailfish look real nice, but they are more pricey than Regulators.

Ouch! Must be the Carbon Fiber they add to the hull "Where Needed". :money: Knew there was something I liked about it.

here ya go Randleman, http://marker17marine.com/boat/2005-...nt-232-triton/

If you are interested, give me a call. I'v e got an in over there

I have seen that one...they have it on CL about 100 times.

I like that model boat a lot...there is one listed on Raleigh CL with a 250 Yammie, less than 100 hrs, garage kept since new asking $2k more.

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/boa/4539110192.html

Anyone ever ride on one of these?

http://panamacity.craigslist.org/boa/4540608816.html

I think it is the 19 degree deadrise hull, those models look to have a lot of room.

I work on a lot of Sea Hunts and they are pretty nice boats, I wouldn't say they are up with Regulator, but I'd rate them above 70% of the boat brands I work on.

I want a 30' Americat Pilothouse. Or a Freeman 33 Pilot or a 29 Everglades Pilot or a V-20 Pilot?? Pilot overload... When I retire I am moving up North where everything is better.

You can drive slow in the left lane and tell them all how we do it down south while talkin' in a funny accent.

Be sure to ask for sweet tea.



I like that second Seahunt the best Randleman. Neighbors behind my wife's parents have one. That one is nice being garage kept. Plus the guy has a huge storage building and is obviously into his stuff. Probably has taken good care of her. I like it a lot more than that Proline. The lines look better, deeper deadrise, would prefer the Yammie it has, although I know you like the Suzuki's.

Hey!! We like sweet tea up north also... :beer:

And no, not everything is better up north... ok, we have better paying jobs, our wimmins is prettier, we don't get as many hurricanes and tornados, no fire ants, gators, our grass is actually soft on the feet, and we can go outside on a hot summer day. But we pay more in taxes, our homes cost more, and we have to put up with ppl from down south driving slow in the left lane and trying to tell us how much better it is south of the Mason-Dixon line. :you::butt::hide:

At least we know how to make a left hand turn down south, or drive in just one lane. I JUST left Jersey, and peoples ability to not turn left(when they actually are able to) shocked me to say the least. Or the number of women driving in 2 lanes at the same time while gabbing on there cell phones had my blood pressure so high I think a vein popped out of my forehead.

:you: Youse guys crack me up. Sweet Tea. I'm just bustin some northern compadres cajones. Bored, I was.. Besides I can't move north, I would freeze to death, noone wants that. LOL!

Back to the subject.. Pilothouse Please. Parker makes a clean looking boat but the $$ again..

I have always liked the Parker 25 Sport Cabin...saw a "Southwester" as they were once called, in the early 80's, I couldnt beleive how big the cockpit was.

They are lots of $$.

X2 Parker Pilothouse is my number one favorite looking rig. Rode in one a while back. Calm seas, so can't say how well it did or didn't handle in the snot, but absolutely a wonderfully made boat. If anyone wants to give one to me I'll take it in a heartbeat.


And Ferm, I couldn't agree with you more about wimmin gabbin or texting on the phone while they are driving. Complete a-holes they are. And yes, you turn left by making a right turn... with the number of vehicles on our roads, it's really the only safe way. But I agree it takes some getting used to.

X2 Parker Pilothouse is my number one favorite looking rig. Rode in one a while back. Calm seas, so can't say how well it did or didn't handle in the snot, but absolutely a wonderfully made boat. If anyone wants to give one to me I'll take it in a heartbeat.


And Ferm, I couldn't agree with you more about wimmin gabbin or texting on the phone while they are driving. Complete a-holes they are. And yes, you turn left by making a right turn... NJ has more vehicles per sq mile than any other state in the union, so with the number of vehicles on our roads, jug handles and cloverleafs are really the only safe way. But I agree it takes some getting used to.

Got all excited for a minute...then read about whats wrong with it.

http://wilmington.craigslist.org/boa/4603420955.html

I was in Southport this past weekend and saw this one in person, I liked the looks of it but would want to take it for a ride to see how it rides...wonder if they would sell it without the FICHT?

http://wilmington.craigslist.org/bod/4591194888.html

Any input on a Sea Fox?

http://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/boa/4598600740.html