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bgreene 04-05-2014 06:32 PM

Replaced fuel sending unit
 
End of last season dashboard fuel gauge was bouncing around wildly from empty to 3/4 full.

Didn't find any lose wires, so figured it was the fuel sending unit.

Fairly easy job under the deck plate. Original fuel sending unit looked ok, corroded sections as to be expected.

Have to follow the directions carefully to cut and then position float arm based on the chart for fuel tank depth.

Nice and dry under the hatch, peeking under with light wood looks bright / fresh as original.

Will find out shortly if the sender had gone bad.

bradford 04-06-2014 10:55 AM

Somewhere on here Tsubaki has a good thread about testing fuel senders.

Striper80 04-07-2014 06:43 PM

You can test very easily with a multimeter set to the ohm scale. If you connect the leads to the two sender connections and raise the float. The resistance should change corresponding to the position of the float arm. The sending unit is basically just a variable resistor.

Larryrsf 05-02-2014 04:33 PM

Regarding my old V20 1974 with saddle tanks, were there fuel senders and fuel level gauges? I don't see any wires on top or on the sides of the twin 20 gallon gas tanks. Could the sender connections be behind the tank against the side of the boat? I was reluctant to pull the tanks if I didn't have to.

I am presently in process of replacing all the gas lines and adding a big new removable filter like we see in car engine oil system. This boat has been sitting idle since 2001 or possibly before that!

Larry

macojoe 05-03-2014 09:19 PM

I had a 76 with same tanks. no sender on them eaither, but I did not mind as when one tank went empty I would switch to the other and knew when to head home. Later when I converted mine to OB I added a third tank were the motor use to be and never worried again!
By the way I have never had a working gas gauge on any boat, and have never run out, by filling after each trip.

Larryrsf 05-05-2014 06:26 PM

Since I wrote that I have pulled the tanks and my boat expert and I saw an old level sender unit on top of each tank. He said those are essentially "always" non-working after sitting this much time, but that new senders are quite reasonable, $35 or so. It needs to be 17" for my saddle tanks.

But I will need to either add one gauge and a switch or two gauges on the dash somewhere. This boat apparently never had fuel gauges. There was a piece of round doweling in the boat, and I would bet that is what the fisherman used for their fuel level.

BTW, I dumped both tanks into plastic gas containers and poured about 7 gallons of that stuff into my Durango gas tank (which had 3/4 of good gas). I saw several discussion comments wherein boat experts suggested that because a car's fuel filters are really good, and because the dilution of that much good gas will make that old gas and oil mixture harmless.

I drove the Durango today and noticed nothing different.

Larry

Larryrsf 05-09-2014 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Striper80 (Post 212741)
You can test very easily with a multimeter set to the ohm scale. If you connect the leads to the two sender connections and raise the float. The resistance should change corresponding to the position of the float arm. The sending unit is basically just a variable resistor.

I connected an ohmmeter to the sender units before I installed them inside the tanks. I see the resistance changing as I lift the float. My question regards calibration. If I connect a meter in series with the sender, and 12v to the sender, how will I set the meter to read zero when the tank is empty and full with the tank is full? I don't see a rheostat or other way to calibrate the system...

Larry

smokeonthewater 05-09-2014 02:54 PM

You can't calibrate... You have to buy the correct range sender for your gauge
Then it's just a matter of setting up the sender so that the float maxes out at the top and bottom of the tank

phatdaddy 05-09-2014 05:38 PM

best is to fill up, reset odometer on gps to 0,run 40-50 miles, fill up, calculate mpg. keep track of mileage as you burn fuel. i can usually tell how many gallons i will need within 1 or 2 at each fillup.

spareparts 05-09-2014 05:44 PM

I've been using the wema senders lately, I can't say they are any better(time will tell) but they sure are easier to install. Measure the tank, order the sender that's the right length and install. No bending or moving the float around. As far as testing them, I ground the pink wire to the ground wire on the sender, if the gauge buries itself, then its most likely the sender. If the gauge doesn't move, check the wires, power and ground to the gauge, then ground the pink wire at the gauge, if the gauge doesn't move, the gauge is bad. If you want to get real fancy, Lavorsi sells a sender that once its installed, you empty the tank(leave a couple gallons just in case), turn the screw on the pot till the gauge reads empty, then fill the tank and set the other pot till the gauge reads full. Regardless of what kind of gauge or sender you have, its only going to so accurate due to the design of most boat tanks

Larryrsf 05-09-2014 07:45 PM

I had an interesting time getting the new fuel lines and new filter primed. I first tried the squeeze bulb, but that was futile. It doesn't pump air. I couldn't get the system to prime. So then I broke the fuel line before the squeeze bulb, put a short line into a container of fuel, and pumped it up. Started the engine, got it running about 1000 RPM, then quickly switched the fuel line to the boat installed system. It never even hiccuped! Apparently the engine fuel pump is pumping fast enough to prime all those empty lines and even the new fuel filter-- Whatever, it worked and I was able to switch tanks with the selector valve while the engine was running. I am ready! 40 gallons in two saddle tanks.
Larry

Larryrsf 05-09-2014 08:27 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar_1...ature=youtu.be

Used the engine fuel pump to prime the new lines and new filter all the way to both fuel tanks. Worked! Started with a fuel line in a gas can and then switched it to the boat system while the motor was running. Never a hiccup!

RidgeRunner 05-27-2014 08:39 AM

Well, I went looking for the cause of my non-functioning fuel gauge,(like the repair was Kryptonite, been putting it off for 6 months). Turned the key on and viola, the fuel gauge works again... So now what? I tell you what , I gave the eurethane a good seal coat of Awlcare and thanked heaven above for the assist.. You see, as a bonehead, I did not take into consideration the placement of the sending unit in relation to the baitwell. It is all undr the floor hatch which has a console, t-top, well you get the picture. It will be a small PITA to replace the sending unit, so I am really happy it started working again. But the the question does arise, WHY ? What is making it work intermittently? Loose connection?

macojoe 05-27-2014 08:47 AM

My guess is lose wire! But I hate gauges and they never seem to work, so I learnecd were and when I would run out and always went out with a full tank! Even when I sold my Sea Ox it had 110 gal gas in it!!

Destroyer 05-27-2014 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larryrsf (Post 213423)
Since I wrote that I have pulled the tanks and my boat expert and I saw an old level sender unit on top of each tank. He said those are essentially "always" non-working after sitting this much time, but that new senders are quite reasonable, $35 or so. It needs to be 17" for my saddle tanks.

But I will need to either add one gauge and a switch or two gauges on the dash somewhere. This boat apparently never had fuel gauges. There was a piece of round doweling in the boat, and I would bet that is what the fisherman used for their fuel level.

BTW, I dumped both tanks into plastic gas containers and poured about 7 gallons of that stuff into my Durango gas tank (which had 3/4 of good gas). I saw several discussion comments wherein boat experts suggested that because a car's fuel filters are really good, and because the dilution of that much good gas will make that old gas and oil mixture harmless.

I drove the Durango today and noticed nothing different.

Larry

At the end of every season I always empty my tank as much as possible and put in my Lawn Mowers, Snow Blowers, whatever... anything but the boat engine. I've never had a problem with any of the gas, but why take the chance in my boat's engine?

lathehand 05-27-2014 03:51 PM

Befor I replaced my sending units .I made a simple old school measureing stick.I graduated from a empty tank and marcked it off at 5 gals 7 1/2 gals and so on till full.The sending units work fine now but they can't be as accurate as my stick


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