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willy 04-24-2013 07:54 PM

Need Advise, Opinions and Info
 
So today was splash down day for the G3.
The good news is the 8HP Yammie runs great.
The bad news is that the extra four pounds it weighs is enough to let too much water come into the engine splash well for my comfort. The 2 stroke 9.9 was just a little better and doable. This is bordering on too *** heavy dangerous for me. It was windy and choppy today on the lake, nothing severe but a good .5 to 1.0 foot chop and with her arse with the extra few pounds she does not float like a butterfly.
I have two engines on her, a Yammie F60 that weighs 250 Lbs. and the F8 which weighs 78 lbs. I need both as the 8 hp is required on my local reservoirs and the F60 is what I use on the big lakes.
Either engine by themselves is great, together a problem. I only had a half full fuel tank too.
Apparently G3 never intended for that much weight on her.
Option one, sell the under 50 hr. F60 and replace it with a 20 hp yammie that weighs 176 lbs, a saving of 73 lbs.
I do not think that a 20 is going to get that boat on plane or will it?
Second option, don't fish the local lakes, which sucks!
No weight to relocate, both batteries are already forward and the fuel tank is built into hull under the floor forward of the splash well area. Nothing else back there.
Any ideas much appreciated

spareparts 04-24-2013 08:07 PM

buy another boat to put the 8hp on, then you'll have two boats, I'm down to three, so you need to catch up while I'm running short. Or, the captain could loose another 20 lbs to make up the difference :nut:. I thought about suggesting carrying less beer, but it wouldn't be fishing then :beer:

smokeonthewater 04-24-2013 08:32 PM

Sell the G3 and get a tinny that is just a little bigger

SkunkBoat 04-24-2013 09:07 PM

Thats the dilemma when there are only a couple lakes that allow over 9.9hp (Hopatcong & Budd?) Unless you go out of state or to the briny, you'll never use the 60hp. Then you'll get bored with crabs and weakfish & start venturing out the inlet. Happened to me with my Sylvan. Ended up buying the V20!
Now I paddle a canoe in the fresh water.

Guess what I'm trying to say is you have a lake boat in lakes that can't use 60hp. If you want to enjoy the mountains and the quiet 9.9hp lakes(it IS NICE to be on a lake with only 9.9) then don't fret over losing the 60 hp.

Although I have seen a boat on Round Valley with three 9.9s!

randlemanboater 04-24-2013 09:21 PM

I had a Bass Tracker TX-17 that I put a 15hp 2 stroke Merc on to be legal on the lake my parents live on, it got up on plane just fine...not a speedster, but got around ok.

A 20 hp 4 stroke will do pretty good I bet...with the right prop.

macojoe 04-25-2013 10:08 AM

you could just donate the g3 to me and get a different boat!!

This is why I have always said to my wife I need to have 2 or 3 boats cause one never can do it all! I would look around for a 12 or 14 foot tin boat for the 8hp and have 2 boats and be able to go were you want.

there was a guy here giving a 12' away for free but I missed it :( O well I still have not even got a fresh water rod!
I still need a reel for my surf rod to fish the salt now I have no boat.

bgreene 04-25-2013 10:31 AM

Row........that's right ......row. Near zero weight and good exercise.

The guys in the early 1900's used to row dories out of NY & NJ for TUNA !

THEFERMANATOR 04-25-2013 12:17 PM

Theres always the other option. Find a couple of old 2 strokes to hang on it and shed 100 pounds from the transom. You could probably sell the 4 strokes and buy a set of old 2 strokes and still have money left.

willy 04-25-2013 02:09 PM

Well since the G3 with that 60 is the best aluminum boat I have ever been on I am going to keep it I believe.
I am going to be looking for a decent used long shaft capable 14-16 footer and trailer to fish these lakes.
Two boat owner again.

RidgeRunner 04-25-2013 02:35 PM

Some of the aluminum tunnel boats have the boxes built onto the back to help but then they would be in the way of the kicker. Darn, just when you think you got it figured out. :zip:

THEFERMANATOR 04-25-2013 03:54 PM

Your other option would be to get a fat fishing buddy to sit in the bow when your in the stern. That would offset the extra weight.

spareparts 04-25-2013 04:55 PM

here ya go
http://www.akmccallumco.com/
jon boat central

reelapeelin 04-25-2013 05:16 PM

Too much weight at the stern is another reason I keep bringing up that steering linkage...it allows you to remain in the center of the boat and keeps your weight directly off the stern...was the too much water w/you at the tiller or at the helm?

willy 04-25-2013 07:19 PM

Yes I was at the tiller in the rear, but that will be common someone in the rear when fishing with a couple of guys. Unless I had a following sea running the boat is not the problem. It is when drifting even without a chop. Water level with me standing on the dock looking at the boat I could see the slight wakes there splashing through the motor well drain holes.
I went to the G3 dealer in PA today and talked to the woman who owns it. Been in business there for thirty years.
She pulled out some boat and motor specs for me.
that boat, despite the way the dealer I bought it from said he could set it up for a 9.9, was never meant to have a kicker on it. Unless it was a smaller main motor like a twenty or maybe a thirty hp and then a kicker.
The transom cut out is not wide enough for a kicker on the transom. if you look at my boat pics in the other post the dealer added a bolt on aluminum extension to the transom. That fixed mount casting is heavy duty and heavy, plus it makes it worse by extending the motor out eight inches more.
So even though the linkage would help if no one else was sitting in back the boat was not designed for a kicker period, never mind two four strokes on her.
Thus the dilemma.
So, keep my G3, run it the way it was designed and pick up a slightly smaller second boat to run with the 8hp on my two reservoirs that are ten and 20 minutes away.
Either that or sell my G3 and by something larger designed for both.

phatdaddy 04-25-2013 07:27 PM

i currently have 3 boats and look at craigs list every night.

i know your pain, willy.

willy 04-25-2013 07:46 PM

You have a common ailment my friend:hi:

step up here 04-25-2013 09:03 PM

I think that women's husband is really resting in peace now! May God rest his soul. She is really a piece of work.

randlemanboater 04-25-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willy (Post 202665)
So, keep my G3, run it the way it was designed and pick up a slightly smaller second boat to run with the 8hp on my two reservoirs that are ten and 20 minutes away.

Thats the spirit!

THEFERMANATOR 04-25-2013 11:00 PM

Keep the G3, and pick up a little 14-16 foot jon boat for your lake ventures is my vote. You've got that YAMAHA on the G3, and you know it's history.


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