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		I meant to post this suggestion when MJ (aka Wind Talker) was going through his financial and housing situation hot and heavy, but alas, I am getting older and got side tracked. 
	Right now MJ is not only managing the site and committing his time to us but he is also paying for it. My suggestion to help all of us out is this, we find out from MJ what the yearly cost is, I do not think it is very high and we post it up and figure out who will sponsor the site. Have a sponsor list and everyone that can, sign up and we split the cost amongst us all. It should only be a few bucks and we help the Wind Talker through some tough times he is having. I think it would be a pretty cool thing to have your site sponsored by the members. Like a big family we all contribute what we can. Any suggestions for doing it better post em up.  | 
		
 I agree . This is one of greatest the fourm's I have ever seen, I agree lets all do this for MJ and all of us fans 
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 maybe a place to become a paying member? 
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 I second that Willy.  Great idea.  Nobody shall have a say in how it is run except Windtalker, because I wouldn't change a thing.  
	I have seen other forums that allow sponsorship of certain sections. For a small annual stipend this would relieve MJ of some of the burden. Not that my opinion counts for squat, just throwing it out there.  | 
		
 Great Idea Willy!! I'm in and if MJ will continue to do us the favor of running this site as usual I think I can speak for all of us and say a BIG THANK YOU MJ!! Maybe we can all chip in alittle extra and help him get another boat! 
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 Great suggestion WIlly.  I've of a like mind and actually I sent him money months ago.  But I'm sure it's gone by now and a refill is probably in order.  It's always good to help out your fellow man.  You know, sometimes life kicks you in the teeth, and sometimes you hit the lottery. 
	I'm thinking that MJ got kicked in the teeth with his health and finances, but I think he won the lottery with having us here to cover his six. So if we're gonna talk about covering it, lets actually do it. Put me down for whatever it takes. :party:  | 
		
 Thanks guys!!  The cost per year is nothing really, yodaddy is donating the server, Valiant is donating his time as our tec guy, so I just pay for the domain name to keep the site up which is like $10 a year. 
	What I would like to do is give something to Valiant and yodaddy for taking up there personal time and keeping all running!! Because really with out them there would not be a wellcraftv20 site! I know we could never give them what a real server gets or a real Tec guy would get but a little something would be nice. I use to give Valiant a little each year when I could, but as you guys know I am a poor man right now. So what ever you guys come up with will be fine by me, just know the ones that donate will have no more power then the ones that can't! This has always been a free site and will stay that way for whop ever uses it as long as I have anything to say about it! As like now I will not allow swearing, porn, fighting or anything of the kind no matter who started it and won't have a problem booting anyone off the site, no matter if they pay or not! Only reason I am even allowing it is to try to show yodaddy and Valiant that they are very much appreciated and we can't do it with out them! I want nothing!! Thanks guys Joe  | 
		
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 Seriously, how you use it is none of our concern MJ. Just know that it's there if and when you need it. I'm in... who else?:fam:  | 
		
 I'm in... whatever it takes for no more withdrawals hehehe!! I also agree with CFELTON on helping MJ. Only stipulation being next boat has to be a V20 I/O j/k:clap: 
	On a more serious note, too much good info., good entertainment and good folks here to not to give something back in return.  | 
		
 I propose that anyone that donates gets access to a special forum like they do on THT and the Sand Bar 
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 Step Up  is here Am in!:nice: 
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 sounds good to me.  i see we have about 150 active members , if half of those  ponied up $20, we're looking at $1500. 
	is that the ball park ya'll were thinking about? or do like churches and give what you can when you can... whatever, i'm in.  | 
		
 Based on what MJ said my suggestion would be for a Sponsor List in which the guys who sponsor the site pony up like 10 Bucks apiece and MJ distributes it to who he thinks it should go to.  
	Wind Talker I would suggest you divide it by three and put yourself in that three. That would give a little something to all three of you for what you do.  | 
		
 that sounds very fair & helps the guy's that pay for this site run , but lets make it $15 and kick MJ some thing   ( thoughts ) ? 
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 sounds like a winner, willy. 
	would paypal be easiest for mj? grey, mj is windtalker(long story)  | 
		
 MJ can you start a Sponsor sticky and let guys sign up? 
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 I'm in.  30 bucks would be fine for me too.  Although if it wasn,t for this site. I wouldn't be in the middle of the most fun project I've ever taken on.  So thanks all and I'd be willing to pitch in.  Lots of great advice and help here. 
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 Sounds like 15 would be good. 
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 Thanks phatdaddy  I wasnt sure about that:zip: any way count me in just set up a place or way to send $$  I  love this site  what a big family 
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 I don't have a V20 but do visit this site on a regular bases and can easily do $15, I'm in… 
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 Ok give me a few days, I am working on something. All great ideas!! Valiant is here from Mississippi and will be coming by my place in the next day or so, and I am going to run a few things by him. 
	I will set up a new paypal account that people can send there membership money to.This is great of all you guys!! But I still have my worries about it, but will see how it goes? I have seen sites battle over people that give, and don't give, and I don't want that!! but have spoke to a few that are members of a few smaller sites that do it and have no problems at all, which is what I am hoping for. I don't want to make this a cash cow!! Just cover the cost of running the board will be great!! Thanks all !! I will be back with details in the next few days!  | 
		
 I am OK with passing on some cash to cover the site and really don't care about how the site runs. I do know about the Internet and computers (35 years worth). In order to make big cash you have to use this site to advertise other sites and manufactures normally using pop ups and redirecting user to different web sites, I can't see you doing that. You people here seem like an honest bunch of people who just love boating.  | 
		
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 I agree with you, some call it hijacking your session. For the most part I don't go back and stay with sites like yours and that's why I trust you. But if you do strike it rich remember me, LOL  | 
		
 I think it should be anonymous.... I don't mind chipping in but I have no desire to rub it in to folks who don't....... I do think an admiral's club would be a good idea but maybe instead of making it a pay thing make it "by invitation only" A good place for private discussion but not exclusive to pay or not and not possible to buy your way into for say exwives or bosses or whatever.... 
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 smokeonthewater "I think it should be anonymous.... I don't mind chipping in but I have no desire to rub it in to folks who don't....... " 
	I agree.  | 
		
 i'm with roffey & smoke, no one knows 
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 i am in also let us no how much and when!!!!!!! mj thanks for all you do!!!:clap::clap: 
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 I am in!!!!! Just let me know where to send it and how much. 
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 Then instead of a sponsor link how about we just do a contributor list, no admirals club or any special benefits. I don't think anyone here would like that. 
	And it puts any fears of yours away MJ. Nothing changes. Just a link here somehow that shows Contributors. That way we can keep track yearly, we have appreciation for those that do and thats it. We don't need anything more than that. It is not a recognition of the contributors but a recognition and appreciation of the three of you guys that keep this site going.  | 
		
 Whatever amount yall come up with is fine with me. Im with the others as I dont need to know who gives or not, dosen't make any difference to me. I'll be working nights for the next few days, wont have much time to go on the site, so whatever you all come up with is ok by me. I just think all involved in keeping this great site running should be well compensatied for their time and intrest. Thanks MJ, Valiant, and Yodaddy!!!  :sun::clap: 
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 Just caught this thread. 
	good idea. I would be up for say $9.53 or maybe $9.54, but no way would I pay $9.55 or more. rkc (obviously kidding, I would pay anything reasonable).  | 
		
 I'd be happy to contribute. This site helped me a lot through the years, especially when I went through the re-fit (holy crap, 9 years ago!). I don't post as much as I once did, but I always check in to see what's happening and contribute what little info I can when I can. When I couldn't get the site to open I dam n near went into a panic, was worried that it was gone for good. Whatever you all decide, count me IN. 
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 This DOES bring up an interesting thought though.  Here we have a good site with good people in it.  We all seem to get along most of the time.  We really should have a back-up plan though, a way to get in touch with each other should the site go down again for some unknown reason.  Perhaps even a second generic site (WellcraftV20-1?)  that we could go to?  Just sayin....   
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 I'm in weather it be a member fee to keep the site up and running or a MJ fee . For all the help I've found here it's worth it 
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 Ok,  here's the plan.....  Everyone send me a grand and i will see that it gets in the proper hands. 
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 You want my mailing address so you know where to send the cheque :beer: | 
		
 What does it cost to run this site per month/year? Just curious. I'm willing to pay what ever fee you guys decide. 
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 I will or somebody on here open a wellcraft v20 Facebook account. We can speak and get all info from there if needed. And I think it will be kinda cool for everyone to see our boats on there. Just an idea, and its also FREE. We can have it for back up or whatever. It doesnt have to be publicly open for comments,just publicly opened to be viewed. If you guys want me to start one let me know. It would just another way for everyone to keep in touch. 
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 I thought facebook was for teenage girls... lol 
	btw I can be found at iboats.com and the hull truth under the same screen name  | 
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