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Jdog 07-15-2012 09:27 PM

Motor question
 
How can you tell if your motor is a 2 or 4 stroke? I went to buy oil and wasn't sure if I need 2 cycle or 4 cycle oil.
What's the difference?

bksah2 07-15-2012 10:02 PM

the 2 cycle (2stroke) and 4 cycle (4stroke) are 2 different type motors the 2 cycle motor mixes gas and oil together to lubercate the inside of the motor ,,the 4stroke uses gas only and not a gas/oil mix
the 4 stroke motors will have a dip stick to check the oil level, there is no dip stick for a 2 stroke/cycle,,,this has nothing to do with the oil that is the lower end/unit that is a heaver type gear oil,,, Please do not run that 200hp motor till you know,,Please check the internet for more info or go to youtube.com for info

Jdog 07-15-2012 10:26 PM

Awesome Thank you!!

macojoe 07-15-2012 11:44 PM

you say you have a 96 johnson, thats a 2 stroke

reelapeelin 07-16-2012 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macojoe (Post 191992)
you say you have a 96 johnson, thats a 2 stroke


Yup...

Kracker Jack 07-16-2012 08:08 AM

He would also I think make sure the vro has not been abandoned. He would then have to manually mix gas and oil. 50:1 I would think. Just a heads up.

Jdog 07-17-2012 09:31 PM

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The guy I baught it from said he removed it and mix 50 to 1 cause he had several motors burn up cause the vro clogged so easily. He said just a small piece of trash is all it takes, and he also said it was a lesson learned.

Jdog 07-17-2012 09:37 PM

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Replaced the lower unit gear oil yesterday, the black goop that came out smelled terrible. Cranked her up and man she is a cold starting *****. took some time choking her but we got her running, and then found out that in order to get her in gear you have to push in on the shifter lever to change gears, I had no idea it was like that but atleast I learned more about my new boat.

Ready to put her in the water and give her a name.

I think I am going to choose the name Chillaxing.

Thank you for all your feedback.

Destroyer 07-18-2012 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdog (Post 192085)
Replaced the lower unit gear oil yesterday, the black goop that came out smelled terrible. Cranked her up and man she is a cold starting *****. took some time choking her but we got her running, and then found out that in order to get her in gear you have to push in on the shifter lever to change gears, I had no idea it was like that but atleast I learned more about my new boat.

Ready to put her in the water and give her a name.

I think I am going to choose the name Chillaxing.

Thank you for all your feedback.

Nice name. :party: Long may she sail!!

Blue_Runner 07-18-2012 12:01 PM

Jdog - boat name sounds cool. Sounds like you are fairly new to boat ownership? Let me just say that probably the worst mistake new boat owners make is forgetting to put the plug in before backing the boat in the water. I seriously doubt you could find a single boat owner who can honestly say they have never forgot. So, what I am saying is, always remember to make sure the plug is in before putting the boat in. It took a couple near sinkings for me to get it through my head......don't be like me!!

:hi::beer:

bgreene 07-18-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdog (Post 192085)
Replaced the lower unit gear oil yesterday, the black goop that came out smelled terrible. Cranked her up and man she is a cold starting *****. took some time choking her but we got her running, and then found out that in order to get her in gear you have to push in on the shifter lever to change gears, I had no idea it was like that but atleast I learned more about my new boat.

Ready to put her in the water and give her a name.

I think I am going to choose the name Chillaxing.

Thank you for all your feedback.


1996 Evinrude 150 -225 How to start cold engine:
1. pump fuel bulb fully / repeatedly till firm. Don't over rush, do it right.
2. turn ignition key while holding the key pressed in to choke.
3. when it starts, release the choke.

During very warm weather, I find less choke is needed, but when it get's cold this is the factory starting proceedure. If it starts to die, just press the key in to provide shot of richer choke and release again.

I've had two of these motors - and confirmed starting proceedure with Evinrude Master tech at J&B, Westville, NJ - 50 years of family run Evinrude dealer / service .

phatdaddy 07-18-2012 01:04 PM

also might need a little more throttle when cold. there should be a way to increase throttle without putting in gear. some controls had a lever on the top and some you press a button in the middle of the shifter to advance throttle without engaging the proshaft.

Destroyer 07-18-2012 01:16 PM

If I recall correctly, pushing the key in is not actually a choke like closing a butterfly plate on a carb. Instead it injects fuel directly into the engine. But it's called a choke because most people won't understand otherwise.

Illogikal99 07-18-2012 06:40 PM

mind if I add my 2 cents???
Great motor you got there! built like a tank but it burns just as much fuel, keep an eye on your fuel gauge and enjoy the rude. aside from the motor def spend a few minutes learning the basic rules and etiquette on the water if you havent already. also work on your karma and always lend a hand or a tow if you see someone in need. enjoy that beastie and welcome to the site!

RWilson2526 07-18-2012 07:55 PM

And that lower unit nasty smelling oil is normal. No need to worry.

Jdog 07-18-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 192120)
1996 Evinrude 150 -225 How to start cold engine:
1. pump fuel bulb fully / repeatedly till firm. Don't over rush, do it right.
2. turn ignition key while holding the key pressed in to choke.
3. when it starts, release the choke.

During very warm weather, I find less choke is needed, but when it get's cold this is the factory starting proceedure. If it starts to die, just press the key in to provide shot of richer choke and release again.

I've had two of these motors - and confirmed starting proceedure with Evinrude Master tech at J&B, Westville, NJ - 50 years of family run Evinrude dealer / service .

I had already looked this up and you are dead on, and Thank you.

Jdog 07-18-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner (Post 192119)
Jdog - boat name sounds cool. Sounds like you are fairly new to boat ownership? Let me just say that probably the worst mistake new boat owners make is forgetting to put the plug in before backing the boat in the water. I seriously doubt you could find a single boat owner who can honestly say they have never forgot. So, what I am saying is, always remember to make sure the plug is in before putting the boat in. It took a couple near sinkings for me to get it through my head......don't be like me!!

:hi::beer:

Yes I had a boat before with a 5hp motor but nothing like what I have now so I have already learned that lesson the hard way lol

Jdog 07-18-2012 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatdaddy (Post 192127)
also might need a little more throttle when cold. there should be a way to increase throttle without putting in gear. some controls had a lever on the top and some you press a button in the middle of the shifter to advance throttle without engaging the proshaft.

Yes if you put your hand on the throttle and move it to the center position and pull it to the left or push it to the right it engages the second cable for the shifter, then pull it back out for the throttle, I really don't like that setup cause it sticks and is hard to move it left and right. Does anyone else have a shifter combo like this?

Jdog 07-18-2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illogikal99 (Post 192152)
mind if I add my 2 cents???
Great motor you got there! built like a tank but it burns just as much fuel, keep an eye on your fuel gauge and enjoy the rude. aside from the motor def spend a few minutes learning the basic rules and etiquette on the water if you havent already. also work on your karma and always lend a hand or a tow if you see someone in need. enjoy that beastie and welcome to the site!

I am a real nice person and I always help others when needed. :party:

Jdog 07-18-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWilson2526 (Post 192159)
And that lower unit nasty smelling oil is normal. No need to worry.

Thank you that's real good to know.

bksah2 07-18-2012 09:52 PM

I HAVE FORGOT THE PLUG thanks to my kids we saved the boat before it got to bad :cry:
I also disconnect my trailer lights before i back down the ramp ......

Jdog 07-20-2012 08:28 PM

yea I just got a new trailer light kit and it says that its submersible, but it had a 1/2 inch square hole on the bottom of each light where the wires run so water can go right inside and fill it up???? seriously??? WTF WAL-MART!!!

macojoe 07-20-2012 09:32 PM

I added guide on's and bought pole lights, no more issues!! Screw them other lights!! I have had them all!! I never disconnect before putting in water anymore!
I bought enough wire so to make all connections from the trailer hitch to top of post so no connections go in the water to rot off.
AAAAThis is just a site to show you, I got on ebay cheaper!

http://www.veveinc.com/shop/Pipe-Lig...T-Lights..html

http://www.veveinc.com/shop/files/pictures/d_416.jpg

RWilson2526 07-20-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macojoe (Post 192298)
I added guide on's and bought pole lights, no more issues!! Screw them other lights!! I have had them all!! I never disconnect before putting in water anymore!
I bought enough wire so to make all connections from the trailer hitch to top of post so no connections go in the water to rot off.
AAAAThis is just a site to show you, I got on ebay cheaper!

http://www.veveinc.com/shop/Pipe-Lig...T-Lights..html

http://www.veveinc.com/shop/files/pictures/d_416.jpg

Think that guy could back in any further?

jasoncooperpcola 07-20-2012 11:06 PM

Jdog those lights are submersible based on the belljar principle. Air stays trapped in the housing preventing water from coming in. Take a clear glass and put it in the dishwater opening first. At least that is how they are supposed to work.

spareparts 07-21-2012 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWilson2526 (Post 192301)
Think that guy could back in any further?

It must have been one of those shallow ramps BGreene was talking about:laugh:

Jdog 07-21-2012 07:29 PM

yea I was thinking about that to, like when you hold a glass upsides down and push it down in the water, but I guess we will see what happens.
I love the pole light idea that rocks!!!
:party:


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