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Mulv80 05-30-2012 08:03 AM

Another 96' V-21 in NJ
 
Man, the market is oversaturated with overpriced V-21's in NJ.

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/boa/3045474773.html

THEFERMANATOR 05-30-2012 09:33 AM

That's just the boat markey nowadays. Boats that would only fetch $2K 5 years ago are now fetching $5K in most places.

bldgengineer 05-30-2012 02:45 PM

Really $10k??? Wow..

lumberslinger178 05-30-2012 05:36 PM

maybe if it had a newer motor ??????

bgreene 05-30-2012 08:29 PM

Only asking $ 10,000 ! Wow, I bet the bidding war's are already in play.

Offers probably up to $ 40,000 - $ 50,000 by now.

Mulv80 05-30-2012 09:03 PM

Come on, this one doesnt even have the easily repairable bulkhead rot. 10g's is a steal for a 16 year old boat. I've seen 96' Jersey V's go for that in slightly shiner condition:you:

bgreene 05-30-2012 09:08 PM

Guy on this site recently sold a V21 for $ 12,000.

Mulv80 05-30-2012 09:13 PM

Dmoore's boat was impeccable!

buckleyjr 05-31-2012 12:25 PM

I am VERY biased, but the value of the V21s really depends on who you are targeting as buyer. If you compare the functionality of a V21 with other boats on the market, these boats aren't worth 10K (assuming an older engine) - comparing size, power, speed, handling, deck space, etc for a 15+ year boat.

But if you love/appreciate the look of these specific boats, and especially appreciate the Hunt hull design of the Vs, as well as the relative rarity of the V21s, then I can see why they could command a higher price. It's not insane to ask 10K for a v21, but you probably need to be prepared to wait until the right buyer comes along.

It's almost like putting a value on a classic car.

bgreene 06-01-2012 11:22 AM

That's probably a decent assessment given all the variables.

A truly MINT item.........if in scarse supply tends to bring a higher price than the average to very good.

Referring back to the offer that included cash and a "super model" thrown in may be a good example. Super model of course depending on the reality.......are we talking " average super model" or ........super, duper super model ?

The guy who sold his V21 for $ 12,000. That appeared to be close to honest MINT condition.

A completely water logged V with warping transom, lousy wiring, decreped trailer, engine that barely runs, and an opposum nest in the cuddy just might not fetch as much.......

bradford 06-01-2012 10:35 PM

Guy brags its a 21' wellcraft NOT a V20 in his ad. Like the V20 lineage is a bad thing or something. :devil:

For this douchebag stance that he has taken I will say that his rig is PRICEY and I think V21 windsheilds look gay. :nut:

Except for Bluerunner's.

bgreene 06-03-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradford (Post 189866)
Guy brags its a 21' wellcraft NOT a V20 in his ad. Like the V20 lineage is a bad thing or something. :devil:

For this douchebag stance that he has taken I will say that his rig is PRICEY and I think V21 windsheilds look gay. :nut:

Except for Bluerunner's.

What's a V 20 ?

Destroyer 06-04-2012 09:23 AM

I've got one of each. I'll eventually just have the V21, simply for the extra space in the yard. I love both of them, but truthfully I like the V21 better. Not because it's the newer one, but simply because I like the looks and functionality of the 21 over the 20. (Higher transom, built in livewell, washdown pump, etc. etc.)



(Who is Bluerunner??? :head::you:)

bgreene 06-04-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 189954)
I've got one of each. I'll eventually just have the V21, simply for the extra space in the yard. I love both of them, but truthfully I like the V21 better. Not because it's the newer one, but simply because I like the looks and functionality of the 21 over the 20. (Higher transom, built in livewell, washdown pump, etc. etc.)



(Who is Bluerunner??? :head::you:)

Destroyer - seems that you get my jokes, and sense of humor.
I say ................. any boat that gets you " there and back" without trouble is likely a good boat. I ran a 16' aluminum skiff with 40hp Mariner outboard for EIGHT years ! That boat even pounded on the trailer ! I used to curse that boat every time out. Not nearly enough boat for me, no space, tripping over those bench crossbeam " seats", it leaked and turned into a big frying pan in the sun ! Still............ it was better than no boat.

Yesterday, Sunday was a great day to run the V on the ocean.......and I did, for at least 40 miles round trip. V 21 that is............

Blue_Runner 06-04-2012 02:46 PM

Oh shat that is funny. I only read down to the, "besides I think V21 windshields are gay." I was about to quote bradford and fire off a light-hearted, nasty response, then I see Destroyer's remark....looked back up and saw the , "...except for Blue Runner's" LOL!! Good one bro!

My take on it is this - I think this guy knows there is no way he can get 10k which is why he put obo. By putting obo he is letting the prospective buyers know he won't take $6500 (yet). My guess he isn't in a huge hurry to sell and realizes if someone does show interest, they are likely willing to pay a pretty good price considering his starting price tag. When he does not get a single call he will drop down to 9k obo then do it all over again. His probably just doesn't want to sell himself short just in case there is someone who will fork over 10k. In a word - he's just feeling out the market IMO. Not a bad thing to do if in no hurry.

What do ya'll think it is worth (given the 4 pics and limited info)?

bgreene 06-04-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barnegatV20 (Post 189806)
If its the one with the mercury mulv and greene are talking about, yeah it was worth 12 in my opinion. If only I had forseen the impending repower at the time :sad:i

Posted to the wrong sender and re posted below.

bgreene 06-04-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner (Post 189962)
Oh shat that is funny. I only read down to the, "besides I think V21 windshields are gay." I was about to quote bradford and fire off a light-hearted, nasty response, then I see Destroyer's remark....looked back up and saw the , "...except for Blue Runner's" LOL!! Good one bro!

My take on it is this - I think this guy knows there is no way he can get 10k which is why he put obo. By putting obo he is letting the prospective buyers know he won't take $6500 (yet). My guess he isn't in a huge hurry to sell and realizes if someone does show interest, they are likely willing to pay a pretty good price considering his starting price tag. When he does not get a single call he will drop down to 9k obo then do it all over again. His probably just doesn't want to sell himself short just in case there is someone who will fork over 10k. In a word - he's just feeling out the market IMO. Not a bad thing to do if in no hurry.

What do ya'll think it is worth (given the 4 pics and limited info)?

I replied to the wrong comment - meant to answer your question here Ok then:

Before I found my V21, I looked at a few that were in lousy condition - price range mostly $ 5,000 area.

I paid $ 8,500 for my 96' V21 with 96' 150 Evinrude
Boat - excellent to exceptional condition, no soft spots.
Motor - very low hours, perfect compression
Trailer - dual axle, in fair to poor condition

Guy with nearly truly MINT 96' V21 trailer etc recently sold for.......I believe $ 12,000

So, in my opinion, his asking price may be a bit on the high side.

If the guy paid $ 12,000 for a truly MINT 96' V21, motor same, trailer same and really likes this type boat, that's still a very nice rig compared to new, but discounted for wood in the construction etc.

Destroyer 06-05-2012 12:53 AM

If you guys recall my comment that everyone keeps mentioning, there was a guy that wanted $9600 for his 95 V21 and I said I thought it was pricey.. (which is where the joke comes from).. but he eventually dropped his price to $6500 and sold the boat. I had gone to look at it and truthfully it was one of the finest V21's i ever saw.. I even tried to buy it but someone else plunked down a deposit on it a few hours before me. <sigh> My point is that like everything else in life, the value is whatever someone is willing to pay. I paid $1600 for my 96' V21 with a nice tandem Load-rite trailer and no engine, but don't forget that I had to remove the floor, replace all the plywood on the bottom, fibreglass encapsulate it and refoam the hull. It's still a work in progress. The engine is just about ready to marry to the hull. Ran the controls last weekend. I think $6500 - $8500 is about right for a V21 without a soft floor. :head:

bgreene 06-05-2012 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 189987)
If you guys recall my comment that everyone keeps mentioning, there was a guy that wanted $9600 for his 95 V21 and I said I thought it was pricey.. (which is where the joke comes from).. but he eventually dropped his price to $6500 and sold the boat. I had gone to look at it and truthfully it was one of the finest V21's i ever saw.. I even tried to buy it but someone else plunked down a deposit on it a few hours before me. <sigh> My point is that like everything else in life, the value is whatever someone is willing to pay. I paid $1600 for my 96' V21 with a nice tandem Load-rite trailer and no engine, but don't forget that I had to remove the floor, replace all the plywood on the bottom, fibreglass encapsulate it and refoam the hull. It's still a work in progress. The engine is just about ready to marry to the hull. Ran the controls last weekend. I think $6500 - $8500 is about right for a V21 without a soft floor. :head:

Well mine's back up for sale and available today only for $ 100,000.
And I'll throw in 2 life jackets to get ya started.

Blue_Runner 06-05-2012 08:14 AM

Yeah I agree. A nice trailer is a major plus for someone who trailers. Then there is electronics, guages, enclosure, wash down, etc. which all help push up the price.

I paid $6,300 w/ brand new trailer, new awlgrip on exterior, new rub rail, new kicker bracket and 9.9 evinrude kicker, all round and square hatches replaced, new yamaha guages, new yamaha controls, brand new oil injection tank, new stainless prop, new swim platform, new optima battery, and new raw water wash down.

Already had electronics and full enclosure from my previous V20. Then I put a brand new motor on it and hydraulic steering a couple years later. Also new captains chairs.

If you add everything up I have over $15k in it.

If I ever sell it it might be considered "pricey" by some (LOL) but I would never expect to see anything remotely close to $15k, that is if I ever sell it.

bgreene 06-05-2012 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner (Post 190000)
Yeah I agree. A nice trailer is a major plus for someone who trailers. Then there is electronics, guages, enclosure, wash down, etc. which all help push up the price.

I paid $6,300 w/ brand new trailer, new awlgrip on exterior, new rub rail, new kicker bracket and 9.9 evinrude kicker, all round and square hatches replaced, new yamaha guages, new yamaha controls, brand new oil injection tank, new stainless prop, new swim platform, new optima battery, and new raw water wash down.

Already had electronics and full enclosure from my previous V20. Then I put a brand new motor on it and hydraulic steering a couple years later. Also new captains chairs.

If you add everything up I have over $15k in it.

If I ever sell it it might be considered "pricey" by some (LOL) but I would never expect to see anything remotely close to $15k, that is if I ever sell it.

Do you have a 200 hp on it now, and if so three questions please:
1. Does it sit low - are the drains under or above water
2. Any other noticeble engine weight related issues
3. What WOT speed do you get

Send a PM to me if you prefer, thanks

Blue_Runner 06-05-2012 10:31 AM

Sure thing:

1) No 200hp, it is a 2004 150hp Yamaha carbed 2 stroke.
2) Drains above the water, does not sit low at all.
3) If 2 or 3 guys stand in the back corner or put all the weight on one side a little water will come in the deck drain on that side but not bad.
4) WOT 42 mph @ 5200 RPM

THEFERMANATOR 06-05-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 190003)
Do you have a 200 hp on it now, and if so three questions please:
1. Does it sit low - are the drains under or above water
2. Any other noticeble engine weight related issues
3. What WOT speed do you get

Send a PM to me if you prefer, thanks

How low it sits in the stern will depend on weight, not HP. Some 200's weighed in at less than 400 pounds(375 for a MERCURY 2.4L), but others weighed in at almost 500(MERCURY 3.0L 200 big block engine).

bgreene 06-05-2012 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR (Post 190008)
How low it sits in the stern will depend on weight, not HP. Some 200's weighed in at less than 400 pounds(375 for a MERCURY 2.4L), but others weighed in at almost 500(MERCURY 3.0L 200 big block engine).

Right. I believe the " little etec" 200hp may be the lightest around now....

bradford 06-05-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 189938)
What's a V 20 ?

Same hull you have.

bgreene 06-05-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradford (Post 190035)
Same hull you have.

Maybe so but mine has the very cool looking windshield.

Blue_Runner 06-06-2012 08:57 AM

Yes, the V21 side windsheilds are totally badass. :party:

bgreene 06-07-2012 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner (Post 190049)
Yes, the V21 side windsheilds are totally badass. :party:

Was kidding about the windshield - they're all good. Any boat that gets you there and back and doesn't cost you more than it's worth to keep running is good.

Destroyer 06-08-2012 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 190106)
Was kidding about the windshield - they're all good. Any boat that gets you there and back and doesn't cost you more than it's worth to keep running is good.

Agreed, but the side windshields ARE totally badass, as is the built in bracket on the rear for the engine to mount to....:love:

reelapeelin 06-09-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 190163)
Agreed, but the side windshields ARE totally badass, as is the built in bracket on the rear for the engine to mount to....:love:


That IS a pretty sweet design...:love:

dmoore 12-02-2023 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 189849)
That's probably a decent assessment given all the variables.

A truly MINT item.........if in scarse supply tends to bring a higher price than the average to very good.

Referring back to the offer that included cash and a "super model" thrown in may be a good example. Super model of course depending on the reality.......are we talking " average super model" or ........super, duper super model ?

The guy who sold his V21 for $ 12,000. That appeared to be close to honest MINT condition.

A completely water logged V with warping transom, lousy wiring, decreped trailer, engine that barely runs, and an opposum nest in the cuddy just might not fetch as much.....

Beyond mint! What a fool!


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