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I'm afraid to comment, the Army might perceive me as a threat and I'd disappear.

We can protect ourselves and retain our liberties.
"Those that surrender liberty to gain security shall have neither liberty or security"
Allowing the government to seize and detain an American Citizen without appearing before a judge and charged with a crime and to place that individual in Cuba indefinitely on the say so of the military or our government is the start of the slippery slope our Founders warned us about.
God Bless Senator Paul for fighting this, and all should remember this in Nov 2012.
our liberties and our Constitution are being eroded daily by an omni present federal government, and never so much as under this socialist administration.
this is not a democrat, republican thing. This is a U.S Citizen thing. this is a what will our kids live under thing.
this is a what did our parents do to us thing.
JMHO

When we have lawmakers that are willing to let something like this happen then it's time to switch the lawmakers... 2012

Glad to see common ground w/the liberal who posted this on my FB...he is as disgusted by this as you are...this a good example of why we need to put aside partisan bickering and get together against the real common threat to our liberties which has become the very lawmakers we elect, only to find them working hard AGAINST US. Lindsey Graham is on the Senate Armed Services Committee...which is the same as on the take from military supplies manufacturers...he and I are from SC, but could NOT be further apart in what we believe to be patriotism and the good of this country...and as you say, Willy, the good of our children.

There's nothing wrong w/our government..except the people who operate it..and WITHIN it. Please put aside your partisan beliefs and vote against every incumbent career politician you can on every level of government...we need to send the message to our lawmakers we are tired of them being lead around by their wallets and will no longer tolerate it. I know the difficulty in what I'm suggesting...a liberal dem voting for a rep??...perish the thought...or a staunch rep pulling the ticket for a liberal dem??...I'll DIE first...but the threat to the American way of life is greater from within than the issues that divide the parties...the arrogance of power that pervades the Congress today has to be dealt with. Vote 'em OUT. NOW.

If there is a sitting politician who is against the status-quo political payola, he/she needs to stand up and denounce corporate ownership of Congress...there's no gray area here...we control our inherited liberties as Americans, or we leave it up to corporate politics...it's really in our hands.

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Keep in mind that good old senator Mccain was one of the key figures behind this bill to begin with. So this isn't a republican or democrat, or whatever thing, this is the people VS the elitists in charge kind of thing.

Isn't McCain on Senate Armed Services Committee as well as Graham..they want to prolong the war cuz it's filling their pockets...having the legal ability to detain Americans would help THEM do just that...yer RIGHT Ferm...party doesn't matter here...it's them against us..and I ain't just imagining this sh!t...

Yep, were getting it dry from both sides. If we don't get fresh blood in DC soon, were all done for.

wasn't there a document somewhere that was drafted after a war long ago that had some language in there prohibiting the governing nation's army from doing this to their own people. My history is a little rusty. :head:

it is called the Posse Comitatus Act - it stated bluntly that the federal government can not use federal troops on U.S soil against its citizens.
It also required the federal government to use local law enforcement to enforce arrests and seizures, to notify them ahead of time and have them present.
Only one state has forced the feds to abide by that law ans that is Michigan.
The other states have let that slip by and not argued the point. That is because they are run by a bunch of Statist"s too.
I am not sure if Michigan is still enforcing it. It use to be that in order for the feds to come knocking they had to produce the Warrant to the County Sheriff and he decided whether to be present or not.
We as Citizens are being DOWN GRADED to bystander status by this federal government.
They tell us, and the states, what we will eat, what medicines we are allowed to take, soon, what insurance we will have to buy, what fish we can catch, where we can drive, what kind of vehicle we can have, how much of their money we will be allowed to keep out of our paychecks, who will be the winners and losers in our economy, what are banks will do, who they must lend to, how much salt is allowed in our food, what type of firearms you can purchase, how many, they have colluded with the universities to inflate the costs of our educations for our kids and they have given power to unions that represent approx 7% of our population.
They enforce only those federal laws which they deem worthy and ignore others, such as immigration and defense of marriage.
They were bad under Bush and Clinton, but under this Low Life and Chief Socialist all these things and hundreds more have been taken to an all time Orwellian high.
He must be thrown out Nov 2012 or once he becomes an second (and last) term POTUS he will have no reason to even mildly disguise his true intentions.
And while your at it throw out anyone who has not got
"Tea Party Endorsed" by their names as they are the only ones standing up to this onslaught and demanded fiscal and constitutional accountability in our government.
I don't care if he or she is not a fancy speaker or has funny hair or talks like they come from the streets, has no kids or fifteen kids, been married forty times or has not attended church in forty years or fly's to the Vatican once a week to kiss the Pope's big toe.
Elect a Constitutional Defender, a Fiscal Conservative, and Citizen respected by the Tea Party.

I agree he needs to go, but we need to also open our eyes and realize the R or D next to there title no longer means anything. ALL of them can be corrupt, and I think most any of them who have been there for any amount time are corrupt despite what they say they stand for. I know I'm in the minority, but the only canidate I've seen in awhile that seems to be true to his word has been Ron Paul, but to many won't take him seriously. It seems like all of the R canidates are just as bad as our current commander and thief. The whole lot of em needs to be thrown out and we need to start over with fresh blood and term limits for all. I also say we start doing progress reports on them to see who actually does what they promised to do, and who hasn't. Give us the option to boot em if they flip flop so as to keep people in there to do what the "people" want, not what they elitists want.

At least it will keep America safe from the terraists. Ya'll are just unpatriotic.

(sarcasm)

Ferm...you are not at all "by yourself"...when you said "the R or D next to their title no longer means anything" I had to jump up and SHOUT!!...we have no gov't ...we have no representation as long as our lawmakers are on the take...Willy seems to think if we run a TPer up to the White House, everything's gonna be alright...but it's like I told him recently...bickering over party politics right now is like having a fleet of 18 wheelers coming down the interstate and standing in the middle lane arguing over what color the center lines oughtta be...WHO is in office doesn't matter as long as ALL are dangling from the purse strings of big money, special interests and corporations...your vote means nothing as long as our politicians are selling theirs...

Glad to read your post, Ferm!!...:clap:

I think our PUBLIC SERVANTS should wear uniforms like nascar drivers showing who their sponsors are. The more money from a big corporation or industry the bigger the logo. Then we'd at least know who they're really looking for. I liked the tea party until Sarah Palin started sponging off them, hell, I used to like Sarah Palin. The more I study the way things really are though I've realized they're both controlled opposition working for the neocon republicans. On the other side the OWS movement is the same way being run by the folks pushing socialism/communism. None of these people are working with the benefits of regular middle class folks in mind. Eventually they want a super rich elite to own everything and the rest of us to be chattel working to serve their interests.

Hell, it's just about like that already.

Things will get worse before they get worse.

For the RP folks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVH0koafzJM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63yLEXQAKJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM

Laughed out LOUD!!...what a GREAT idea!!...I can see Linsey Graham R-SC and John McCain R-AZ w/HALIBURTON emblazoned across their back sides!!...Pelosi D-CA w/CITICORP logo on her BUTT!!...Bachmann w/an Evangel Cathedral cross stickin' outta the top of her head..."I'll pray for pay!" on back of her jacket...

We better be careful, Bradford...we don't wanna give the money grubbers any more ideas...LOL!!

I don't think voting in a teaparty canidate will solve everything, but I think it would be a step in the right direction to get some blood in DC that is approved of by the people. And the problem I see with the teaparty and Sarah Palin is the machine has gotten ahold of them and distorted them from there origanal intents. DC has a way of corrupting all. I guess it goes back to the old saying of power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely. Our nation is in need of a rebellion on the part of the people. I'm not calling for war here as that will not solve anything, but what we need to do is bring the constitution back and follow it. We need to go back to taking care of our fellow man and not just looking out for ourselves like our politicians have been doing for years. And I'm sure many would not agree with me, but I believe we need to start trying politicians who are only looking out for themselves for treason as they are out to destroy "OUR NATION".

The teaparty was a good start, but I'm afraid that DC is getting it's hooks into it now as they have realized it is a force to be reckoned with. And the OWS crowd are for the most part a bunch of brain dead zombies supporting the very people they are protesting with all the crap they are using in there protest. The hypocrasy in this nation today is sickening to me, and I'm sure many others. So I stand by my statement that we need a PEACEFUL revolution in this nation to return it to the people and take it back from the special interests that it has now come to represent.

:clap:...Well put...I couldn't have said it any better...:clap:

...and I agree w/your thoughts about bringing more politicians to trial...and rewriting the laws to make what they're doing illegal...

I'm not so much in favor of adding more laws so much as I am of removing protections they have come to enjoy away. If we went back to the origanal founders way of thinking more so than what we have now. I think we need to have some advancements in the laws to keep with the times, but I don't agree with them being wrote in pencil like they are now to suit whatever fancy's the needs of the politicians. They need to be held accountable for there actions, and suffer consequences for them as well. It goes back to discipline, something which has been lost upon many as of late which can be illustrated by the OWS crowd.

And it's scary to think some dumb hick cracker like me could sound educated and write something that others agree with:zip:.

I hear what yer sayin' about more laws...for me the general rule is; less is better...unfortunately a lot of the things our Congresspeople are doing are clearly WRONG, but not illegal...and ya can't prosecute unless it's against the law...should existing laws be better enforced?..damn right...

On a similar note...note all the presidential forerunners are running to the feet of Donald Trump like *****s to a troop ship...could it be any more blatant what's going on??...Palin visits, Bachmann visits, Perry visits and now Newt trots his fat *** to the towers...and I'm not blind at all to Obama being on the take as well...it's rampant throughout...and we got NOTHIN...:nut::bsflag:

I never said or implied that a Tea Party Endorsed candidate would be the answer to all our problems.
That does not exist.
Human beings are flawed creatures, the only perfect being that ever walked this earth died on the cross for us.
What I believe, and I may be in the minority here is that you must strive for the best you can get in politics.
Right now there is a loose knit organization of citizens that have gotten together in towns across this country to put pressure on the federal government to abide by the Constitution.
Wow, how freakin radical is that?
They have come together in loose knit organizations across the country to put pressure on the federal government to live within its means, stop spending money we do not have.
They are independents, democrats, republicans, atheists devout Christian groups, small buisnessmen and woman, regular mom and pops who are concerned for their family and their childrens future, they are afraid of what is being done to our nation in the name of Social Justice, and Redistribution of Wealth.
Otherwise known as socialism.
They have not been co-opted by any group or individual and to say so belies the whole reason of existence for these Americans.
There are some politicians which identify with the Tea Parties, Palin is one, Bachman is another, along with around 60 recently elected congressman and senators.
The Republican hierarchy has tried its best to rein them in to no avail.
These are American patriots who have been vilified by a left wing press, a hugely wealthy Democratic party and the RHINO's in congress.
None of the Washington Elite wants anything to do with them and that should be the first sign for anyone with two brain cells bouncing around in their cranium that they should have all of our support.
Now lets talk about some of these imperfect politicians running now.
I want you to tell me one of the republican candidates that you don't think would be head and shoulders over the Socialist Sh!t we have in office now.
Tell me which one would not turn this country around almost immediatly.
There are some who defile people because they are devout in their religious beliefs and feel they cannot lead this nation because of that.
Well i am sorry, but all of our Founders were devout believers in God.
Every great leader this Nation has had was a devout Christian.
Who here does not believe that a President Santorum, or a President Bachman will not get up every mourning and spend many sleepless nights reining in a out of control federal government, releasing the entrepreneurship of our economy, lowering our taxes, removing the federal regulatory prison our nation is in, return power to the states, honor our military, protect our nation, ensure the liberties of the people .
And Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States as they swear an oath to do.
I'm sorry, if they aren't the greatest slickest orators, or have billions in cash from backers, or use Faith only when politically expedient, they actually believe in God. Or the Lame Street Media like the Huffington Post has decided they are not sophisticated enough, or they don't give any Talking Heads a thrill up their pant leg.
They are good people, have a track record of doing the right thing, have taken on the Political Elite in Washington and refuse to compromise their values.
Yea, Bachman, Santorum, people like that, no F'n good. Might bring a little Faith back to Washington. We don't want no one guided by that sh!t in office.
H@ll next thing you know, the government might balance their budget, the economy might create half million jobs a month, people will look at us strangely like there really is an American Exceptional-ism.
You will really secure the border, you may even be able to leave a Cross up in the southwestern desert. Holy Crap
How would we ever survive.

My problem right now lyes with the frontrunners the lamestreet media are cramming down our throats. I personally feel that Newt is nothing but a turncoat who goes with the money, Perry was a democrat until it became more feesabile to be a republican, and Romney just doesn't strike me as nothing but a wolf in sheeps clothing. Bachman seems way out of her league with some of the comments I've heard her make, but I also realize that every mistake she makes will be amplified by the MSM to there favor. Haven't really researched Santorum, but I am in the minority that supports Ron Paul and what he stands for. At least with him we know his stance as he has proven time and time again to be consistent in his beliefs and stand by his convictions. I just can't believe after the blunder the election of 08 became, that the canidates we now have that are the so called frontrunners are the best the GOP can coime up with. I believe we have truly come to a point in time where we need to forget about the D or R in front of there title and maybe vote in an independant to show these crooks in DC we mean business and it's time the status quo changes.

I agree with you Ferm, the candidates are not my preferences.
I wanted, in this order the candidates to pick from
1. Gov. Mitch Daniels
2. Rep Paul Ryan
3. Gov from Virginia, I drew a name blank, sorry
4. Senator Marco Rubio

Guess what? All decided not to run.
Bachman has more experience than Obama ever had, in every aspect, business, government, international.
Guess what else, she is honest, she is a believer in our Constitution and will be good to her word.
She is not in the pocket of big business, nor the unions.
Santorum, boo koo senate experience, honest as the day is long, strong believer in the Constitution, strong on family values, very smart fellow.
Either of them would be a good candidate and would do the right thing by all of us.

Why does the Right ignore Huntsman...is it because he answered the call of his president or because he's Mormon (not Christian)...he certainly is qualified and has exactly the foreign experience needed...I don't get the brush off he's gettin'...he's the only one in the field I would rush to the polls to vote for...and believe me, I'm LOOKIN' for an alternative.

My ultimate pick would be Ret. Gen. Colin Powell...THAT'S the guy could pull this country back together...he's the real deal...