V21 for sale in NJ....Pricy, but..
 

IMO that's a pretty good price for that boat...it's got all the right stuff provided it's all in good shape...if the dollars were flowing a little better around here, I'd go check that puppy out REEL closely and scoop it up if it passed inspection...:clap:

I'll sell ya mine for $7999.99.
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I'll sell ya mine for half of that.

Reel, I totally agree. That's exactly why I left the "but" in the post title. I'm in the same "boat" as you so to speak.. if the dollars were a little better around here I'd home in on that boat for a closer look myself, but with the flood damage to the house and the related expenses a new boat is just not in the foreseeable future.. (but I still want a 21 damnit). :head:

You only say that cuz you know I can't...you'd be lost w/out yer Purdy Lil 21...I've had the hots for that baby since you 1st got it...:clap:

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Hey, saw your Wet Test thread. Sounds like when you get that one gremlin chased outta your Johnnie you'll be back to scootin around the water. Are you gonna outfit it for striper killin like your old V? I hear they are nippin pretty good in the area lakes right now.

Quit calling these V's for sale pricey !! It's only going to drag down the value ...........
Personally, I think that's a very fair to LOW price for a V21 with 200hp, full enclosure, plus trailer assuming all is in good shape.

Heck, I paid more for my V21 and thought it was a fair price !

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Bgreene, I'm sorry, but with all due respect, I have to completely disagree with you. First off, since I doubt that the financial news reads these posts, I don't think that my labeling a boat as pricy is going to drag down it's value, so lets stop with the retoric. I wrote the post as it related to me. You have no idea as to my financal situation. To a begger, a $3.99 hamburger is pricey. To a billionaire, a $500 million dollar private jet is just pocket change. Everything relates back to whoever is making the statement. Now, to me, that V21 is pricey. I cannot easly afford it. It is not a statement as to it's worth to someone else, or even to it's retail value. It's simply a statement as it's cost, relative to me. If you are rich, or at least financally comfortable, and can easily afford that boat, then by all means, call it a low price or a fair price. And for you, you would be correct in your call. But for me, since I cannot afford it, I will continue to call things that I would like, but cannot easily afford, .... pricey.

I understand your logic, Destroyer. But I think the value of this forum, at least when discussing the sale price of a V20/21, is whether it is fair or not regardless of the financial situation of the individual. Condition, region, model, engine, etc.

I'm biased since I own a V21, but I would say that this V21 could be a very good deal, especially if you are partial to Vs, and V21s in particular.

In Destroyers defense, the price has been lowered since his original post. The price you are seeing on the CL ad is not the same price that Destroyer was referring to in his original post from almost a week ago.

Typically " wish I could afford it "......or " wish I had the money" goes with that. All I'm saying is a V21 with a 200hp, full enclosure and trailer....assuming in good shape asking under $ 7,000 is a darn good buy....a boat to jump on and check out if someone's in the market, and all things considered.....a real fair deal. I'd be on it today if I didn't have my own V21.

We own V's, so to me........ unless a guys asking crazy high money, I say calling it " pricey" can only diminish the perceived value....that's all. No big deal beyond that.

Gotcha.....what was he asking prior ? $ 100,000 ?

$9,700 was the original price. Since he didn"t sell it at that sum I assume that others also thought it was pricy so he lowered it to it's present asking price. And truthfully, at the price he's now asking it's a hell of a deal. Still a tad too much for me, but for a complete, set up and ready to run 21 that's a very good price. Once again I am pulled up short in my desire for a 21 by my need to repair my home's flood damages, while still waiting on the ins company to send me a check. :bat:

Thanks Hedge for the D. Much appreciated. :beer:

Funny. Because $9700 IS pricey.

Just to let you know where I was coming from with my post...it was not about that particular boat and price but more of a feeling I get sometimes that maybe we as potential sellers someday may be doing a disservice to ourselves for some of the public comments we make about boats for sale.

In reality what we say probably doesnt amount to a hill of beans and the market will bear out the actual selling price of any boat but at the same time anybody thinking of buying a V will almost definitely find this site if they can use a computer and the general advise given to buyers around here is "low ball" them..."its too expensive" and the like....maybe just rambling but thats where I was coming from.

Exactly.... And I would point out that the fact that the seller reduced his price by several thousand dollars validated my original opinion. :beer:

I'd have no problem if V's become collector items, and values soar..........

What's that ? A V for sale going for $ 10,000 and bidding war breaks out ?
Great.... I'll be the first to congratulate the seller. Some day that may be my boat for sale.

Funny thing is, if you click on the link now the seller wants $8000 for the boat, but the ad title says $6900. And again, that's down from the original $9700 he wanted in the first place. I'm wondering if he really wants to sell the boat or if this is one of those "Honey, I have the boat up for sale, what more can I do?" kinda sales that we've seen in the past. :head:

At any rate this thread has taken way too much of our time. So I'll leave with this parting opinion. IMHO, I think that @ $9700 the boat is pricey, @ $6700 it's a good deal. (assuming everythings ok with the boat). Anywhere in between is up to the buyer to make the call about if he thinks the price was fair or not. Cheers...:beer:

Yeh well I maintain $ 6,900 is a low price for a great V21 based on all the other for sale.

$ 8,000 - $ 10,000 a solid / fair price for a 94- 96 V21 depending on condition and motor age/power/ condition.

$ 45 for a steak is " pricey" bro. Hope your V holds it's value till you sell.

Hang a new power plant one year and pay someone to do nearly a full restoration the next, that's pricey. :nut:

Whoever buys that 21 is gonna get off a lot cheaper than me. :beer:

Ya, and you still have to pay for that indoor, climate controlled storage area for the winter. :you:

I wouldn't offer him anything less than 10,500 for it...:you:

thought I understood but then I kept reading and got totally confused :hi:

Some good points brought up in this thread. I think it is good that everyone stated their opinions. It is kind of like "ask the audience" on who wants to be a millionaire. A lot of times when people disagree they are both wrong and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. In the future when someone comes to this site to assess the value of a V20/21 they will be able to see all opinions and formulate thier own.

That said, a single stand-alone post saying "this boat is too high" might by itself influence the percieved value to a future buyer. However, that post coupled with opinions from other posters to the contrary and such will minimize that effect. In essence, the percieved value falls more toward the middle. What I'm saying is none of us are right, but our opinions together average out to the right answer....or something like that (wtf am I talking about???:head:).

As you all are aware, almost any boat you buy is a poor financial investment. You have to know that going into it. I have over 16k in my boat after repowering with a new motor, additions/upgrades and not planning on selling it (unless somebody will trade out/sell me a pimped out Seacraft Sceptre with 225hp 4stroke + on a bracket....still waiting).

Crap, now I've done gone and talked a potential V21 buyer into buying a Seacraft instead.......chit!!!
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Hey " your honor" ....... I respectfully reject your ruling that " none of us are right."
Eventually nearly all of us sell our boat, and at that time, I bet none of us would appreciate comments such as " pricey" when we're asking a proven fair market price for our rig.
I say........if you're not buying, leave the sellers post alone or send him a private email if you have a strong opinion that you feel compelled to share.....better than hurting his ability to sell it with negative comments.
As for the Seacraft Sceptre - I'd love to get one. A great boat based on everything I know, and fairly hard to find one in excellent condition..........that is.....for a " fair price" !!!!ha ha.

The way I see it is this...we can all have our own OPINIONS regarding the VALUE of this boat or that boat....and until somebody w/the cash steps up and BUYS it, an OPINION is all it is...these Vs we love around here, in the end are worth only what somebody is willing to actually PAY for....I have a certain respect for bgreene's wish to protect his perceived value of his boat, but I also understand and agree w/BR's point of view as well...none of us is right or wrong...until the cash hits the table...
When I was in the car business there was a saying; There's an a$$ for every seat...holds true for boats too...

Reel, that's exactly what I meant when I said quote "Anywhere in between is up to the buyer to make the call about if he thinks the price was fair or not." unquote. When a person buys an item for $5.00 or $5oo,ooo, then that is what the item was actually worth, no matter what opinion someone else may have about the price. :clap:

I have to make a comment though. There have been many other posts where members have made comments about how they felt about the price of a boat that was listed for sale. None of them generated so much as a ripple from other menbers. This post though, no matter how I've tried to explain MY position, and why I felt that TO ME the boat was pricey, has generated a constant and sometimes sarcastic attack by bgreene against me and anyone else that agreed with me. I'd like to know why. Normally I'd do this with a PM, but since the attacks were many and in public I'll take the same route. Maybe I'm being thin-skinned, but truthfully this has left a real bad taste in my mouth.

A good deal = what ever a person is willing to pay for something.Not what ever someone else thinks it's worth

I really want to try one of those $45 steaks. :drool:

Difference of opinion:
I think posting on a public forum that another guys listing is pricey can only hurt his chance to sell his boat. It's like "warning sellers to beware"..... and his price isn't even high to begin with.

You came back to me saying I should " stop the rhetoric" however that applies I don't know.

Lastly, I believe pounding down on another guys listing as I believe you also did on the Ohio V for sale just serves to diminish perceived value of these boats.

That's all. Long live the V's ! Priceless ! Collector's items ! Discontinued model ! Do I hear $ 50,000......that's $ 50,000 for a rare V in excellent condition........$ 55,000 from the gentleman in the back !!!!

Go to a Ruth's Chris...they'll bend ya over like ya never been bent!!...glad I was on an expense account...will never go on my dime...:nut:

Need to borrow your expense account for one night. Just one.

I don't reccomend it. I ate at Shulas before where the cheapest steak was $45, and that is ala carte so the $45 was JUST the steak. To top it all off, it wasn't that good either.

Luger's, Brooklyn NY. "real pricey" but extraordinary. Forget menu's.......just order steak for X # of people, the sliced tomato, shrimp cocktail, spinach and potato sides.

Once in a lifetime worthwhile experience. No credit cards - cash or Lugers house card.
Got lucky and ate there twice.

Shulas didn't have a menu either. You ordered via a presentation where examples were brought out to you on a cart. Also you could pick which staek you wanted cooked for you. It just wasn't for me I guess.

1ST rule of Retail. I was gonna say if you didnt.

I bought my 85' with a 96' Johnson Oceanrunner with 600hours on it for $7500. Yes I overpaid a tad on it which is why I offered $6750. He didnt take it but I bought it anyway. Why? Because I KNEW that was my boat and it smelled like it could catch fish. Not to mention it came with Downriggers and Outriggers, trailer and tons of extras. Now with over 10k invested into it it really feels like "my girl" and I love it even if those damn lexan console doors keep fallin out:bat:

LOL SSIRED, what is not to love?

I agree on the steaks. I can't imagine paying $45 and feeling like it was worth it no matter how good it was.

I'm gonna be building a new smoker behind my building. Strictly wood coal smoking. While I'm at it I'm gonna build a custom grill w/ adjustable grate just for grilling over wood coals. Pile up a heaping mound of red hot hickory coals and lower the grill as close as I can get it and slap on a BIG FAT fillet..... oh Lord......getting dizzy thinking about it.

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That's gonna be hard to out run at ANY price!!...