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steplift20 03-07-2009 05:46 PM

those dam cleats
 
Ok im sure you all know i have a 1978 steplift the best year that was ever made, thats my opinion. those cleats that are on the transom back sides, one is broken and i have to replace it. my question it this how do you do it cant get to the bolts

reelapeelin 03-07-2009 06:01 PM

Cleats?...transom backsides?...can ya show us some pics so maybe we can better help...

tsubaki 03-07-2009 06:10 PM

I can't tell ya about them POS '78's. But the '75's (which are truly the best ones) are easy to get to and replace.
Oh, and like reel said.

steplift20 03-07-2009 09:14 PM

i got to get you pics,,,if anyone has the same as i do[you know what im talking about] please post pics i dont thave a camera

macojoe 03-07-2009 10:47 PM

A grinder is your best friend when you own a boat! If it was thatbad it broke, the bolts must not be all that great, take a hamer to it they wil snap right off

O and the ones on my 75 were perfect!! They really started using garbage after that year!

Blue_Runner 03-08-2009 03:50 AM

MJ, your '75 must have had its cleats replaced with cleats from a '78. :you:

phatdaddy 03-08-2009 08:06 AM

Are you talking about the "U-bolt" lifting eyes on the transom?

Skools Out 03-08-2009 10:21 AM

i think they were bolted on first to use to lower the cap in the boat due tono access to remove the nuts. my 78 same way. I cut mine off and just used heave #14 x 3 ss screws to hold the new ones in, or you could cut them off and install pop up cleats with the top screw holes and that what you have more cleat strength just a thought.

reelapeelin 03-08-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Skools Out (Post 137584)
i think they were bolted on first to use to lower the cap in the boat due tono access to remove the nuts. my 78 same way. I cut mine off and just used heave #14 x 3 ss screws to hold the new ones in, or you could cut them off and install pop up cleats with the top screw holes and that what you have more cleat strength just a thought.


Must be it, cause my '74 and the '75s were easy to get to...

Steplift 72' 03-08-2009 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by reelapeelin (Post 137589)
Must be it, cause my '74 and the '75s were easy to get to...

A screwed in cleat caused an accident that resulted in a fatality that caused the bankruptcy of Chris Craft. Screwed in cleats are probably fine for docking, but thru-bolted is the only way to go if you intend to really put a load on it. If you need thru-bolting without access, those 8" hand hole ports are cheap and easy.

Chomper 03-08-2009 06:58 PM

I have my rod boxes out I can reach it but I have to crawl inside a little ways and twist around.

Stillrunning 03-09-2009 01:50 PM

I have never had any issues with my cleats on my 84 the best year these boat were made. If you have anything else back there you may need acces to in the future I'd add one of those 8" access things.

cterrebonne 03-09-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Steplift 72' (Post 137608)
A screwed in cleat caused an accident that resulted in a fatality that caused the bankruptcy of Chris Craft. Screwed in cleats are probably fine for docking, but thru-bolted is the only way to go if you intend to really put a load on it. If you need thru-bolting without access, those 8" hand hole ports are cheap and easy.

they were pulling off the cleat in the stern.?

reelapeelin 03-09-2009 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Steplift 72' (Post 137608)
A screwed in cleat caused an accident that resulted in a fatality that caused the bankruptcy of Chris Craft. Screwed in cleats are probably fine for docking, but thru-bolted is the only way to go if you intend to really put a load on it. If you need thru-bolting without access, those 8" hand hole ports are cheap and easy.


Could not agree more...this hardware should be through-bolted...w/a backing plate...mine are...both on bow, mids and stern...

Steplift 72' 03-09-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cterrebonne (Post 137648)
they were pulling off the cleat in the stern.?

Yes, there were towing bit's and various docking cleats on the boat. The owners manual apparently didn't specify what was to be used for different purposes and found the manufacturer at fault for that reason. The article described a pair of about 40' Chris Crafts, one was stuck on a sandbar. The tow rope was nylon and I believe the cleat that failed was actually near the bow of the boat under tow. Nylon shouldn't be used for towing for that exact reason, it will snap back with incredible force. The cleat with nylon rope still attached snapped back to the tow boat and killed a man on the bridge deck.

Skools Out 03-09-2009 08:00 PM

have pictures of my 78 apart for ya so you can see it and where they are will post after 24 goes off.

bcmarinamanager 03-10-2009 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steplift 72' (Post 137608)
A screwed in cleat caused an accident that resulted in a fatality that caused the bankruptcy of Chris Craft. Screwed in cleats are probably fine for docking, but thru-bolted is the only way to go if you intend to really put a load on it. If you need thru-bolting without access, those 8" hand hole ports are cheap and easy.

NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER use screwed-in cleats for more than holding a fender! If you ever tie you boat to anything using a cleat it had better be through bolted! Don't believe me? Screw one in and use as you would normally, but be sure to say your prayers before you walk away from it.

Steplift 72' 03-10-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bcmarinamanager (Post 137683)
NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER use screwed-in cleats for more than holding a fender! If you ever tie you boat to anything using a cleat it had better be through bolted! Don't believe me? Screw one in and use as you would normally, but be sure to say your prayers before you walk away from it.

Opinions vary, but we are in agreement here. One of my biggest problems with buying used boats is looking at a fiberglass or hardware repair and imagining what may have been done....or not done

Skools Out 03-11-2009 09:42 PM

are your cleats like these or on top? go in the rod box as seen here

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...t/P1010016.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...t/P1010015.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...t/P1010017.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...t/P1010018.jpg


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