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Airslot 02-17-2009 06:16 PM

Forgive me brothers, for I have sinned...
 
Forgive me brothers, for I have sinned. I have been unfaithful to my beloved Wellcraft, and I have coveted anothers ride.

I am strongly considering defecting the ranks this season, leaving behind a perfectly faithful companion. Another has caught my eye, and I judge her by not only her beauty, but here worthiness as well.

To cut to the chase, I am strongly considering a Grady 228G Seafarer, or possibly the 23 Gulfstream. The Gulfstream is really more boat than I need, but I digress...

If the day comes when you see me in the For Sale section, please forgive me. Now I will be gone...off to search the web for my new darling, and possibly to look for a 23 Coastal. :)

phatdaddy 02-17-2009 06:40 PM

as long as it has a pointy end & a flat end, you will be welcome

just don't go sail on us

willy 02-17-2009 07:00 PM

Brother you should seriously consider that 248 you posted earlier, with that F250 and the conditon it appears to be in you are looking at one of the best all around fishing boats at any price, put some money into a radar system and/or electronics package and you have something special.
The Grady;s are nice but overpriced and make sure you go with a newer model as the older ones have some serious issues, SV2 Hull of course if you value your spine

csvencer 02-17-2009 07:07 PM

Those are two boats I would cheat on you guys in a heartbeat for! The 228 with bracket is awesome and the 23 gulfstream is equally sweat. I am not sure what years you are looking at but if you can get a 23 with the SeaV2 hull, rides a lot better. My parents owned an '87 that was awesome, that 9 foot beam makes the boat feel like at least 25'. Good luck on the hunt. Have you been over to greatgrady.com? They usually have a 22 or 23'r in the classified section.

-Svence

Pipe_Dream 02-17-2009 07:24 PM

Recite 10 Hail Mary's, and pass me the keys to your V. Then all will be forgiven.

THEFERMANATOR 02-17-2009 07:28 PM

If your looking for a center console in that size range, forget the GRADY and find a DUSKY 233. That's my opinion on the matter anyways. If your going to cheat on your V, you might as well do it with a boat designed off of the V-20(just bigger,and better).

Airslot 02-17-2009 08:07 PM

No Center Consoles for me. I spend way too much time fishing cold weather...

Steplift 72' 02-17-2009 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airslot (Post 136379)
Forgive me brothers, for I have sinned. I have been unfaithful to my beloved Wellcraft, and I have coveted anothers ride.

I am strongly considering defecting the ranks this season, leaving behind a perfectly faithful companion. Another has caught my eye, and I judge her by not only her beauty, but here worthiness as well.

To cut to the chase, I am strongly considering a Grady 228G Seafarer, or possibly the 23 Gulfstream. The Gulfstream is really more boat than I need, but I digress...

If the day comes when you see me in the For Sale section, please forgive me. Now I will be gone...off to search the web for my new darling, and possibly to look for a 23 Coastal. :)

I've had the 24 Wellcraft and 24 Grady, but the Wellcraft had 1/3 more range on the same fuel and was much more fishable. The upside of the Grady is a compartment for everything. The Grady could run somewhat smoother upwind, but on those days you really didn't need to be that far offshore. If you switch brands, IMO don't get an old Grady before the Sea
V2 hull or the use of XL Plywood.

reelapeelin 02-17-2009 09:52 PM

Good luck to ya in whatever ya do...just don't go gettin' too snooty to come see us you old dog...:beer:

randlemanboater 02-17-2009 10:47 PM

I always thought the Gulfstream 23 would be a really sweet rig with a pair of 140 Johnzukis (of course) on the back.

Good luck AS, but DO NOT leave us.

C YENSEN 02-18-2009 08:33 AM

For Sale? how much?......:head:

We will forgive you....

Blue_Runner 02-18-2009 09:00 AM

I have never been in the seafarer but I know the gulfstream is a HEAVY boat for a 23'. This is good thing as far as ride is concerned, not so good for trailering and fuel economy. The one I rode in often had a fuel injected 250hp yamaha saltwater series on a bracket. The motor was a little low IMO and would nearly dunk when coming off a plane. My buddy struggled to keep fuel in that boat. I'm thinking it got somewhere around 1 mpg with that set up, maybe a little better.

I wonder how much lighter the seafarer would be?

I'm with you on the center consoles because of the wind and cold factors, but with one of those really nice gunnel to gunnel CC enclosures a CC would be an awesome cold weather boat and just simply heavenly for summertime.

Keep us posted on your R & D and don't do something you might regret.:zip:

reelapeelin 02-18-2009 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willy (Post 136384)
Brother you should seriously consider that 248 you posted earlier, with that F250 and the conditon it appears to be in you are looking at one of the best all around fishing boats at any price, put some money into a radar system and/or electronics package and you have something special.
The Grady;s are nice but overpriced and make sure you go with a newer model as the older ones have some serious issues, SV2 Hull of course if you value your spine


What year did GW go to this hull?...

Blue_Runner 02-18-2009 09:32 AM

I think SV2 was around 95 ish. My buddies Gulfstream was a '91.

reelapeelin 02-18-2009 10:07 AM

Slotster...I asked on THT what years different model GWs went to Sea 2V hulls...here's what I got back...hope it helps in your search...:party:


28ft- 1989
26ft- 1991
22-25ft- 1992
208-209ft- 1993
192ft- 1994
180ft- 1998
Just sold my Seacraft and looking at a 22ft Seafarer. Not alot out there in the CV2 hull for sale at a decent price, people are not really budging on the prices. I have cash now and just waiting for the other end to come down some....

Blue_Runner 02-18-2009 10:20 AM

I stand corrected...wonder why they didn't change all in the same year. Seems kinda silly.

willy 02-18-2009 05:32 PM

They are great boats, my buddies is a 1987 24 footer and it is a good boat, it is heavy as heck and in big swells it does good. But in the normal chop or sloppy seas it rides like crap. He cant stand it either. My V20 rides thru the same stuff much better.
The other issue is that during the 70's into the late eighties Grady used a plywood that did not nold up well along with the issue of they used staples to hold the sheets together in the transom. Guess what happens to staples soaked in moisture for a few years.
Up here there are two or three mariners that are good glass and transom men. They told me that the old Grady;s make up a large percentage of their rebuilds because of it.

shicks007 02-18-2009 06:11 PM

Do watcha gota do. That 23 Gulfstream is a nice rig. I have fished from a freinds a few times. His is matched with twin 150 2 stroke yamies. Nice rig!!!

Airslot 02-18-2009 06:23 PM

Wellcraft 24 WA's are in the mix as well. Looks like I got a bad case of 2 foot itis. Fishing partner wants to scratch it with me :beer:

lumberslinger178 02-18-2009 06:27 PM

No Way you are not allowed to buy another boat unless you sell your V to hammer:sun::clap:

lumberslinger178 02-18-2009 06:28 PM

ps air if you need help cleaning her up just give me a ring:beer:

Parrot_Head 02-18-2009 06:46 PM

What year you looking for ?? Try this one.
http://pensacolafishingforum.com/fis...6187-46-1.aspx

Parrot_Head 02-18-2009 06:48 PM

Or this one
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1994.../United-States

reelapeelin 02-18-2009 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner (Post 136425)
I stand corrected...wonder why they didn't change all in the same year. Seems kinda silly.

My guess would be too big a capital investment to plop down in one year...even for GW...new engineering, hydro-testing, molds, donuts, etc...adds up...and time wise it'd be a crunch to get 'em all done in one model year...plus they mighta wanted to make SURE of the new design before goin' ALL IN!...

Oh, if yer wonderin' about the donuts?...engineers are worse than cops...they luvs them, some donutz!!...:sun:

bradford 02-18-2009 09:13 PM

The fish don't care what ya fish.

reelapeelin 02-19-2009 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradford (Post 136488)
The fish don't care what ya fish.


Yer @$$ does when ya gotta ride back 30 miles to the hill inna 4-6' headsea...

randlemanboater 02-19-2009 01:07 PM

Did someone say doughnuts?



I can verify that the newer GW's ride MUCH better than the old......mine was an 89 25'Sailfish, it was a really nice boat but my buddy has a 27'Sailfish (CV2 hull) and it is like night and day.

Like Willy said, my V-20 rides as good or a little better than that 25 GW.

But I sure wish I still had it, with some 4 strokes on the back.

eight 02-20-2009 01:48 PM

The 22-24' Grady SV2s were my top choice when I was looking. There was a great deal on a decked out 93 Mako 233 (25' long, twin 150s on integrated bracket, 23 degree, gps, autopilot, radar, outriggers, 4 figures) that I passed on because it was bigger than I wanted. Its in Texas and may still be for sale if you're interested.

Airslot 02-21-2009 03:59 PM

The flavor of the day is a 93-98 22 Seafarer. Preferably a 228G, but a 226 would work as well. If the right deal comes along, I'm a lookin. I may by one that needs a little updating before I sell the V, or may sell the V then buy one a little newer. We shall see...

reelapeelin 02-21-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airslot (Post 136652)
The flavor of the day is a 93-98 22 Seafarer. Preferably a 228G, but a 226 would work as well. If the right deal comes along, I'm a lookin. I may by one that needs a little updating before I sell the V, or may sell the V then buy one a little newer. We shall see...


Sounds like you just need more COWBELL!!...:sun:

randlemanboater 02-21-2009 10:10 PM

Gotta have more cow bell!!!!!

THEFERMANATOR 02-21-2009 10:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4royOLtvmQ


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