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hardboiled 10-03-2008 11:20 AM

125hp Force- Can V20?
 
new question, i have found a 125HP Force engine on sale for cheap, will that engine move my V20 boat?

what speed average do i get with this thing?

tsubaki 10-03-2008 12:28 PM

Didn't Stinky have one on his V18 at one time?

hardboiled 10-03-2008 12:32 PM

I need to know cause someone is selling me one for $300, think this is a good price?

tsubaki 10-03-2008 12:39 PM

I DONOT care for them but Stink on the other hand has absolutely no problem with them.
Think about it this way, how long might it last?, the price is low, the controls will cost more than the motor probably, if you aren't happy with it can you recoop your money?
Chances are pretty good it's worth the effort and money.
I'd expect between 25 to 30mph with that size motor.

tsubaki 10-03-2008 12:46 PM

By the way, there are enough derelict Bayliners that had those engines on them that the controls shouldn't be an issue.

hardboiled 10-03-2008 12:51 PM

good will see about it

macojoe 10-03-2008 12:56 PM

Run don't walk I mean run as fast as you can from that Force!! Only thing that thing is good for is an extra anchor!!

Trust me, there is a reason they only $300!

tsubaki 10-03-2008 01:09 PM

Let us know how you do with this.
To be honest I'm with MJ, but every single one of the anchors, err I mean motors make by Force can't be bad. Like I said, I don't care for them, but what's a $300 anchor , I mean engine.

hardboiled 10-03-2008 01:11 PM

the guy is selling the boat,trailer,engine all for $300

Boat is 18 or 19" bayliner 1988 and outboard i believe same age, the boat floor is a mess and the boat itself doesnt look too good. The trailer 1 axe garvanized looks so so.

The engine runs fine and is missing a broken piece on the lower unit leg, im not sure if jump into this. do you think i can resale it for more?

tsubaki 10-03-2008 01:15 PM

Trailer will make your money back, be sure to get title and tag reciept.
Go for it and experiance it till you can upgrade.
See what I said about derelict Bayliners!!!!

macojoe 10-03-2008 01:18 PM

I hope they no charge you to much to get rid of the boat and motor!

See if you can get a tax credit if you sink the boat with the motor for a artificial reef?

tsubaki 10-03-2008 01:19 PM

:clap::you:

csvencer 10-03-2008 01:23 PM

Make sure you can get parts for an 88 Force. I had a hell of time finding stuff for my old 94 Force 120HP.

-Svence

hardboiled 10-03-2008 01:23 PM

im undecided lol:sand:
Thats the problem the guy is selling the boat cause he doesnt have a place to put it, and then where can i throw away the hull?

shubey61 10-03-2008 02:15 PM

Up here we refer to them as "panty liners":booty:

tsubaki 10-03-2008 03:53 PM

You being in Miami, landfills should be at a premium.
Start looking at thru city and county reclaimation locations. They may require the derelict to be in certain size pieces.

randlemanboater 10-03-2008 08:24 PM

Do yourself a favor, send me the $300.

Then count your blessings and keep looking for a DECENT motor for your V.

THEFERMANATOR 10-03-2008 08:47 PM

The FORCE engines are cheap for a reason. They CANNOT withstand many RPM's for ANY length of time, I believe redline on those things is only 5250. The mid size MERCS were actually FORCE engines for quite some time. The late model 90's to 115's had ALOT of issues as these were rebadged FORCE motors. They use a 1 piece block and head with a cooling cover on them. They have ALOT of problems with corrosion around the spark plugs as well. They also use FORCE ONLY tach on most of them that is about twice the money and ONLY works on the FORCE engines. A 125 FORCE would push a V, but I wouldn't expect it to live for very long doing it. MAC ATTACK used to have one on his IIRC, but he upgraded to an ETEC.

bradford 10-03-2008 11:18 PM

I'd save your money bro. You may get the motor for $300, but it will cost you SOMETHING to bolt it up, attach controls, and fix SOMETHING that probably IS wrong with it however minor. It's the end of the season in a crappy economy. Someone else will be selling a decent motor at a decent price about the time you are posting here about how the Force blew up on you and left your family stranded. You said the rest of the bayliner looked like hell. Do you think they took the extra time to do maintainence and winterize if they won't even clean the boat up to sell it? Just my opinion.:beer:

Seacrets 10-03-2008 11:22 PM

What Bradford said. Just how lucky do you feel?

hardboiled 10-03-2008 11:36 PM

That's true, appreciate all the advices

anyway the model of this outboard looks scary, I will pass
i will have enough time to look for another engine while i finish all the repair and paint on the hull

Mac_Attack 10-04-2008 06:57 AM

I had a 150 Force before going to a 150 E-tec. A 120 should push your boat but not at any great speed. Mine ran great until coming into the harbour and shifting it into reverse. It would stall and I could not get it started again. Not a great time for your motor to stall. You can get most parts for them but I would not go to any great cost trying to rebuild it. I sold my 1999 150 Force last year for $800. If you can afford more, I would say stay away from the Force. Billy Mac :beer:

eight 10-04-2008 07:36 AM

Had a 125 force on a 18' bayliner bass boat. Performance was very impressive when it ran. Keep at least one spare powerpack with you.

randlemanboater 10-04-2008 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardboiled (Post 129574)
That's true, appreciate all the advices

anyway the model of this outboard looks scary, I will pass
i will have enough time to look for another engine while i finish all the repair and paint on the hull


Wise choice.



reelapeelin 10-04-2008 10:43 AM

It wouldn't be my choice...

Stillrunning 10-16-2008 11:45 AM

One of the funniest things I ever saw boating involved a Force motor. My buddy had a force motor and his battery had gone dead. I was in my V with some friends and offered him a jump but he said it was easier just to pull start the motor. He took off the cover wraped the rope around the fly wheel and gave it a tug. Before we realized what happened we saw this big part go flying and splashed into the water. We look back at the motor and his fly wheel was that object flying through the air. It snaped right off the crank shaft (I think its the crank shaft). I looked back at him and said now I know why they call it a Fly Wheel. I felt bad for him but the 4 to 5 people in my boat and the couple in his were laughing and just could not stop.

THEFERMANATOR 10-16-2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stillrunning (Post 130130)
One of the funniest things I ever saw boating involved a Force motor. My buddy had a force motor and his battery had gone dead. I was in my V with some friends and offered him a jump but he said it was easier just to pull start the motor. He took off the cover wraped the rope around the fly wheel and gave it a tug. Before we realized what happened we saw this big part go flying and splashed into the water. We look back at the motor and his fly wheel was that object flying through the air. It snaped right off the crank shaft (I think its the crank shaft). I looked back at him and said now I know why they call it a Fly Wheel. I felt bad for him but the 4 to 5 people in my boat and the couple in his were laughing and just could not stop.


:nut:ROTFLMAO My side hurts from reading this one.

tsubaki 10-16-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR (Post 130138)
:nut:ROTFLMAO My side hurts from reading this one.

DITTO,
was it at least a Bayliner it was on??

Stillrunning 10-21-2008 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsubaki (Post 130144)
DITTO,
was it at least a Bayliner it was on??

When you asked if it was a Bayliner I thought back and this happened before I had my V and I was in a Bayliner. Not sure what kind of boat he was in but it could have been a Bayliner. We actualy had good luck with our Bayliner but it had a Volvo AQ125 I/O with a Volvo 280 lower unit.

Stinky_Hooker 12-02-2008 07:59 AM

Do like MJ says...run dont walk!


Mine is a 120...made by Merc and I LOVE it. Its been a great motor. The 125 you are looking at was one of the older crystler models correct? There was one on the V20 I was restoring and was a money pit which is why the previous owner got rid of the boat. I gave it to a buddy, he had it completely rebuilt and after a year still never got it running right and repowered his boat with a newer OMC.


RUN!!!


With that said, Ill repower with something else when it goes...Force parts are getting hard to find and are very expensive.


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