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scook 05-10-2022 08:13 AM

Another simple concept ignored - a little over 80,000 votes scattered among a few key states would have changed the winner of the electoral college. That’s not the wide margin you claim.

bgreene 05-10-2022 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249686)
Another simple concept ignored - a little over 80,000 votes scattered among a few key states would have changed the winner of the electoral college. That’s not the wide margin you claim.

I don’t “ claim “ results scook . The voting results of Biden- Trump are FACT based on our very secure, time proven , monitored, and audited systems.

FACTS and the TRUTH …..or empty conspiracy theories ….your choice , but you only weaken our nation supporting the lies and nonsense.

scook 05-10-2022 01:43 PM

Once again, completely ignoring the point of my post. If my number is correct, it makes it such that a relatively small amount of fraud COULD have affected the results.

bgreene 05-10-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249694)
Once again, completely ignoring the point of my post. If my number is correct, it makes it such that a relatively small amount of fraud COULD have affected the results.

“ Could have , would have , but if “
All nonsense …..Biden beat Trump by large margin and by millions of the popular vote .
But if it makes you feel better - you’re entitled to you own fantasy .

scook 05-10-2022 04:28 PM

Ignore, ignore, ignore and excuse, excuse, excuse. I’m pretty sure you understand the concept I laid out and can only imagine how you would post if the parties were reversed.

bgreene 05-10-2022 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249699)
Ignore, ignore, ignore and excuse, excuse, excuse. I’m pretty sure you understand the concept I laid out and can only imagine how you would post if the parties were reversed.

“ imagination “ as you reference also of no interest to me.

Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

No excuses or “ what about the George Floyd related riots “ changes , dilutes , or nullifies in any way this violent event, and Trumps involvement.

scook 05-11-2022 08:59 AM

It will be interesting to see, as real investigation takes place, whether the “big lie” accusation so freely spouted by the left sources, NPR included turns out to be the big lie, like the Hunter Biden laptop lies and suppression. Too early to tell, but interesting to follow.

There’s a big difference between encouraging a vigorous demonstration and fomenting violence, but your confirmation bias won’t let you see it. We’ll brace ourselves for the “fight like hell” and “trial by combat” very common political phrases used much more by democrats than Republicans that you constantly repeat.

bgreene 05-11-2022 07:48 PM

Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

Destroyer 05-11-2022 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249721)
Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

You know, I was listening to some of the various news programs yesterday and watched as demonstrators broke the Federal law and protested in front of various supreme court judges. (Strangely the police didn't arrest anyone).. Oh yes, that's right, the protestors were on the Left's side of the abortion question so their breaking the law is okay.

Anyway, I saw a clip of Sen. Chuck Schumer yelling into a microphone, screaming at the top of his lungs, Naming Judge Kavanaugh and Judge Gorsuch by name. Threatening them that if they voted for overturning Roe. He said Quote "I want to tell you Gorsuch; I want to tell you Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions." Unquote. Yet for some reason he seems to have impunity while threatening a Federal Judge, something that is clearly against federal law. Why do you suppose that is?

President Trump says something to the peaceful demonstrators on Jan 6 and is blamed for the few that rioted, even though he broke no law, yet Schumer breaks the law, threatens people by name and encourages people demonstrating in front of SCOTUS judges that are breaking the law and nothing happens.

If ever the hypocrisy of the left, and the unfairness of the left and the media was ever more apparent I would be hard pressed to find it.

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bgreene 05-12-2022 05:57 AM

Spin destroyer spin !

bgreene 05-12-2022 04:08 PM

Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

Destroyer 05-12-2022 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249755)
Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

False as usual

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bgreene 05-13-2022 02:36 AM

Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

bgreene 05-13-2022 06:20 AM

Here was Donald Trump claiming he won the election by a landslide .

Lying cheating con man traitor trump inciting the insurrection attempt as many of the accused attackers said they were following his orders

Hours later trump tells them to go home , says youre very special people we love you .
Meanwhile during the George Floyd murder riots trump wanted them shot.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2FLkv3tFBTc

Destroyer 05-13-2022 09:55 AM

I'm tired of answering this thread over and over. You are wrong, you post links only when they are beneficial to your cause, even if they are biased hit pieces from known false "news" sources. Go ahead and make another false post and claim it's just facts and truth. I've heard it all before.

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bgreene 05-13-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249799)
I'm tired of answering this thread over and over. You are wrong, you post links only when they are beneficial to your cause, even if they are biased hit pieces from known false "news" sources. Go ahead and make another false post and claim it's just facts and truth. I've heard it all before.

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If you’re tired - take a nap.

The TRUTH and the FACTS never change, unlike your conspiracy theories, excuses and denials .
That’s why I don’t tire of posting the truth and the facts.
You trumpers have to WORK at disinformation.

Destroyer 05-13-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249803)
If you’re tired - take a nap.

The TRUTH and the FACTS never change, unlike your conspiracy theories, excuses and denials .
That’s why I don’t tire of posting the truth and the facts.
You trumpers have to WORK at disinformation.

The only thing we have to constantly work at is clearing up the falsehoods, lies and disinformation spread by the far left Socialist Democrats.

And YOU are bordering on personal insults again with comments like that "take a nap". I would be careful.

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bgreene 05-13-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249809)
The only thing we have to constantly work at is clearing up the falsehoods, lies and disinformation spread by the far left Socialist Democrats.

And YOU are bordering on personal insults again with comments like that "take a nap". I would be careful.

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Oh my gosh “ take a nap “ …… and a warning from destroyer to be carful !!!!
Alert the media, the national guard , the navy seals !!!

Yes - if you’re tired I suggest you take a nap .

bgreene 05-13-2022 12:52 PM

Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

scook 05-13-2022 07:14 PM

Just your biased narrative, and your jackassery (attempting insults) is boring and inappropriate.

bgreene 05-13-2022 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249826)
Just your biased narrative, and your jackassery (attempting insults) is boring and inappropriate.

“ Jackassery “ writes scook ….ut oh , the insult police will be knocking at your door .
Or not because you’re a trumper . Have a cookie .

scook 05-14-2022 01:01 AM

Just accurate analysis and what do you do in response - pile on the evidence that it’s correct.

bgreene 05-14-2022 06:51 AM

Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

FACT.

Destroyer 05-15-2022 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249855)
Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

FACT.

Yes, yes, yes.... we've heard it all before. Not that it's 100% true, just that you continue to publish it like it's the end of the world.

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bgreene 05-15-2022 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249872)
Yes, yes, yes.... we've heard it all before. Not that it's 100% true, just that you continue to publish it like it's the end of the world.

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Not the “ end of the world destroyer “ but the TRUTH as we slip towards a government built on LIES and disinformation - an autocracy fostered by Donald Trump .

Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

FACT.

Destroyer 05-17-2022 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249880)
Not the “ end of the world destroyer “ but the TRUTH as we slip towards a government built on LIES and disinformation - an autocracy fostered by Donald Trump .

Just the FACTS
Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

FACT.

FACT... MOST (More than 90%) of the people that attended that day marched, prayed, sang songs and listened to various speakers including President Trump.

FACT... Only a very few people comparatively speaking did what you claim.

FACT... The Democrat controlled DOJ has gone after those people with a vengeance, keeping them imprisoned and in solitary confinement, often denying them access to their lawyers, not allowing any bail while all but ignoring the billions of dollars and deaths caused by Antifa and other Democrat led groups during the Summer riots, arresting very few and allowing them to walk free without posting bail while awaiting their trials. Disgusting and Shameful at the least, unconstitutional at the most.

Those are ALL FACTS!!!

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bgreene 05-17-2022 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249967)
FACT... MOST (More than 90%) of the people that attended that day marched, prayed, sang songs and listened to various speakers including President Trump.

FACT... Only a very few people comparatively speaking did what you claim.

FACT... The Democrat controlled DOJ has gone after those people with a vengeance, keeping them imprisoned and in solitary confinement, often denying them access to their lawyers, not allowing any bail while all but ignoring the billions of dollars and deaths caused by Antifa and other Democrat led groups during the Summer riots, arresting very few and allowing them to walk free without posting bail while awaiting their trials. Disgusting and Shameful at the least, unconstitutional at the most.

Those are ALL FACTS!!!

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Well destroyer - you’re WRONG AGAIN - most of the violent attackers that have been charged are NOT EVEN IN JAIL !

And - it was Trump supporters some who said “ trump told us to do it “ who violently injured about 140 Police , attempted insurrection, and threatened to kill the Vice President - all in the name of trump and his election lie.
The George Floyd riots were not a democratic rebellion against our government .
It was a rebellion about police injustice .

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...cts-jail-trial

bgreene 05-17-2022 04:59 PM

Destroyer claims those charged for the Capitol attack are being held in solitary confinement etc !!!!

Destroyers WRONG AGAIN

“. At least 70% of people charged in the Capitol riot have been released as they wait for trial, according to a Guardian analysis.

That high pre-trial release rate stands in stark contrast with the usual detention rates in the federal system, where only 25% of defendants nationwide are typically released before their trial”

scook 05-17-2022 08:08 PM

The witch hunt generated an extreme number of arrests of people who appear to have absolutely no part in any violence and, given the recent example, who were ushered in by police - this stands in exceptionally stark contrast to nationwide arrests.

Add to that jurisdictions where the ANTIFA and BLM domestic terrorists were very seldom even charged and the contrast is starker, in the non-bgreene direction.

Looks like bgreene is WRONG again - not uncommon.

bgreene 05-17-2022 08:17 PM

Destroyer claims those charged for the Capitol attack are being held in solitary confinement etc !!!!

Destroyers WRONG AGAIN

“. At least 70% of people charged in the Capitol riot have been released as they wait for trial, according to a Guardian analysis.

That high pre-trial release rate stands in stark contrast with the usual detention rates in the federal system, where only 25% of defendants nationwide are typically released before their trial”

scook 05-17-2022 11:57 PM

And all you can do is repost your disingenuous, biased proclamations, never able to respond to relevant comments.

bgreene 05-18-2022 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249999)
And all you can do is repost your disingenuous, biased proclamations, never able to respond to relevant comments.

This is what happened scook - NOT “ disingenuous or biased “ as you claim
You can’t change history by LYING about it .


Jan 6, 2021: A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

bgreene 05-18-2022 07:00 PM

Yes indeed

scook 05-18-2022 11:34 PM

Yes indeed - copy and paste to infinity, but be careful to NEVER respond directly and honestly to others’ comments. This is another perfect example.

You make a misleading statement and when corrected, you paste in your tired mantra, which has nothing to do with the thing being discussed.

And of course you then lie about me lying to try to change history.

bgreene 05-19-2022 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 250050)
Yes indeed - copy and paste to infinity, but be careful to NEVER respond directly and honestly to others’ comments. This is another perfect example.

You make a misleading statement and when corrected, you paste in your tired mantra, which has nothing to do with the thing being discussed.

And of course you then lie about me lying to try to change history.

WRONG AGAIN Scook - I’ve responded many many times to others comments …..
I support the Constitution of our country .
I DO NOT support empty conspiracy theories that risk destroying our democracy .
You’re playing with destroying our democracy - with your support of trumps election lies
This is the TRUTH.

scook 05-19-2022 06:49 AM

Your Guardian link makes my point, as much as they try to support yours. The arrests in this situation are significantly different in nature than most in the federal system - THEY are in stark contrast to the usual arrests. Adding to that the hyper desire to arrest anyone remotely associated with the demonstration inside the Capitol and it makes your insinuation that these people are somehow getting off easy a false one.

The Guardian, printing the assertion that there are so many laws, there should be something to charge them with, e.g. property destruction is typical left thinking - where is the cry to prosecute the domestic terrorists who did massive property destruction in their incessant rioting?

This is the same Guardian that reported on a joint British and American Marine Corps training exercise, saying that the relatively small British contingent “won” and humiliated our Marines. That was a flagrant lie. Their Capitol story wasn’t as bad the Marine story, but the insinuation that the people in the Capitol situation were getting a pass ignores that in large part they were prejudicially wholesale, unfairly targeted for arrest. What else would you expect under a Biden DOJ?

Another case of you making a biased, not honest attempt to smear those you don’t agree with. This isn’t intended for your benefit, because it won’t pass your willful ignorance filter to even crease your consciousness, but just to correct the record.

On another subject, your comment that the George Floyd riots weren’t attacks on our government, but protesting police brutality, is also largely false. The violent, destructive riots were largely driven by ANTIFA, who’s clearly stated objective is to tear down the system. It was very much an attack on the government and our democracy.

bgreene 05-19-2022 08:02 AM

The riots you refer to exploded AFTER the George Floyd murder by police.

The violent Trump encouraged insurrection attack was AGAINST our government and process of legal voting Presidential transfer of power.

Your OPINION linking urban violence is spin attempt….NOT FACT.
For whatever the reality of your personal discriminations ….you’re actually just weakening our nation.

scook 05-20-2022 12:46 AM

I think Trump encouraged a vigorous demonstration, not violence, though so,e extremists took his words to mean violence - we disagree on that point.

I’m not linking anything, I’m pointing out that you completely ignore the severity of the riots and the damage, injury and loss of life and that they were actively encouraged, lied about and supported by the left. No spin there.

Also, also no spin, the wholesale arrests associated with the Capitol relatively small riot and very large demonstration were extreme and politically motivated, so more releases of those arrested, when vied rationally is not in stark contrast to the national average. Once again, figures don’t lie but liars figure, or use absolute numbers to insinuate and misrepresent.

I’m doing nothing to weaken our nation, but I’m very concerned about the serious weakening supported by those you support and that you ignore it.

bgreene 05-20-2022 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 250091)
I think Trump encouraged a vigorous demonstration, not violence, though so,e extremists took his words to mean violence - we disagree on that point.

I’m not linking anything, I’m pointing out that you completely ignore the severity of the riots and the damage, injury and loss of life and that they were actively encouraged, lied about and supported by the left. No spin there.

Also, also no spin, the wholesale arrests associated with the Capitol relatively small riot and very large demonstration were extreme and politically motivated, so more releases of those arrested, when vied rationally is not in stark contrast to the national average. Once again, figures don’t lie but liars figure, or use absolute numbers to insinuate and misrepresent.

I’m doing nothing to weaken our nation, but I’m very concerned about the serious weakening supported by those you support and that you ignore it.


Oh you think trump encouraged just “ vigorous demonstration”
The core essence of our American democratic process was under violent attack by his supporters ……and the self proclaimed “ law and order President “ delayed for hours recording a message pleaded by all to speak up. This happened and may likely happen again but worse.

Jan 6, 2021:
A dreadful day in our American history when trump supporters, encouraged and misled by trump attempted Insurrection against our government by storming our Capitol while making terroristic threats to kill Vice President Pence.

scook 05-20-2022 09:41 AM

Pipe’s on to something - you do behave like a bot. Your algorithm is set with a hair trigger to repeat that last paragraph.


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