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Destroyer 12-18-2021 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 246085)
Destroyer - so if you believe trump supporters are DYING to uphold their freedoms- why did you get vaccinated ? Why are you so very COVID careful ? Why are you following the scientific guidelines to avoid getting COVID ?
If you***8217;re so patriotic in defense of freedom to avoid vaccine why arent you standing with them ?

Answer is ***8220; because you know better than to follow Trumps mockery of masks and you know better than to follow Republican disinformation on the vaccines !!!!!


You***8217;re slippery as a eel, but the TRUTH and the FACTS are so much easier than your spin attempts ! Always will be

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First, I have never said I was against the vaccines. So why would you think that I wouldn't follow the scientific guidelines?

Why do you keep bringing President Trump into every discussion? He had nothing to do with my getting the shots, other than fast tracking getting the vaccines to market by May 2021 as he promised and probably saving millions and millions of lives worldwide because of it. He should get a Nobel prize just for that.

As for my getting the shots, I answered your question long ago, but I'll answer it again because I guess you just didn't understand my answer.

I got my vaccine shots because I believe in being careful. I'm in some of the "at risk" categories so I weighed the choices and decided that getting the shots was less risky than not getting the shots. The thing you seem to miss is that I made that choice myself. I made that decision, not some bureaucrat in Washington.

I wear N95 masks for the same reason (not KN95, real N95 masks. I used to do a lot of woodworking and had bought a carton of them years before Covid hit) But I digress.... I do what I think is right for me, not because I'm told to do it by some politician. That's called FREEDOM, the thing you seem so eager to give up and the thing that you are trying to mock people that have died for it.

Do you understand now or do I need to elaborate more?

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bgreene 12-18-2021 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 246124)
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First, I have never said I was against the vaccines. So why would you think that I wouldn't follow the scientific guidelines?

Why do you keep bringing President Trump into every discussion? He had nothing to do with my getting the shots, other than fast tracking getting the vaccines to market by May 2021 as he promised and probably saving millions and millions of lives worldwide because of it. He should get a Nobel prize just for that.

As for my getting the shots, I answered your question long ago, but I'll answer it again because I guess you just didn't understand my answer.

I got my vaccine shots because I believe in being careful. I'm in some of the "at risk" categories so I weighed the choices and decided that getting the shots was less risky than not getting the shots. The thing you seem to miss is that I made that choice myself. I made that decision, not some bureaucrat in Washington.

I wear N95 masks for the same reason (not KN95, real N95 masks. I used to do a lot of woodworking and had bought a carton of them years before Covid hit) But I digress.... I do what I think is right for me, not because I'm told to do it by some politician. That's called FREEDOM, the thing you seem so eager to give up and the thing that you are trying to mock people that have died for it.

Do you understand now or do I need to elaborate more?

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Destroyer writes that I “ mock people who have died from Covid “
Just when you seem unable to spin my posts any further - you do it ! Wow !

FACTS
1. Trump mocked mask wearing ( not me). I’m triple vax’d and wear mask in public places.
2. Counties with greatest percentage of trump voters are very very unfortunately DYING as a 2-3 x greater percentage than BIDEN voters .
Reason is crystal clear ….they followed trump and other Republican disinformation .
There is NO other REAL reason .

Destroyer 12-19-2021 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 246131)
Destroyer writes that I “ mock people who have died from Covid “
Just when you seem unable to spin my posts any further - you do it ! Wow !

FACTS
1. Trump mocked mask wearing ( not me). I’m triple vax’d and wear mask in public places.
2. Counties with greatest percentage of trump voters are very very unfortunately DYING as a 2-3 x greater percentage than BIDEN voters .
Reason is crystal clear ….they followed trump and other Republican disinformation .
There is NO other REAL reason .

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See? Again you mock my post. Lately almost everything I post you label as spin. You refuse to even think that you might be wrong and other people might actually be correct. Exactly where or what was I spinning Greene? You asked a question, I answered it politely, and to the best of my ability, and for that effort I got accused of spinning your post. So again I'll ask, in your opinion, exactly what did I spin? Please try to answer without an insult or an accusation. Thank you.

Oh, and for the umpteenth time I'll ask you, WHAT Republican disinformation? You've been asked several times by many people for an example, but so far you have evaded answering.

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bgreene 12-19-2021 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 246151)
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See? Again you mock my post. Lately almost everything I post you label as spin. You refuse to even think that you might be wrong and other people might actually be correct. Exactly where or what was I spinning Greene? You asked a question, I answered it politely, and to the best of my ability, and for that effort I got accused of spinning your post. So again I'll ask, in your opinion, exactly what did I spin? Please try to answer without an insult or an accusation. Thank you.

Oh, and for the umpteenth time I'll ask you, WHAT Republican disinformation? You've been asked several times by many people for an example, but so far you have evaded answering.

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You want to do good ? Post your own thread advising your fellow Republicans on this site to wear the masks and get the vaccines - for themselves , their families , and fellow Americans.

And here’s your link - which you’ll deny as always
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...misinformation

Destroyer 12-20-2021 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 246160)
You want to do good ? Post your own thread advising your fellow Republicans on this site to wear the masks and get the vaccines - for themselves , their families , and fellow Americans.

And here’s your link - which you’ll deny as always
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...misinformation

I'll neither deny nor agree with your link, since it does not provide the information you asserted, namely that people are dying at a higher rate because of Republican disinformation on Covid.

Your link merely publishes the results of a survey done by the Kaiser Family Foundation (whoever they are), and requires the reader to firstly believe that the 8 items they say are misinformation are true. Then it publishes the survey results broken down into Republican vs Democrat. However it does not publish what kind of a survey it was, not how many of each group were interviewed. Was it a weighted survey? and if so what weight ws given to each category?

So again I'll ask you, where and what is the proof of your statement that "Republican Disinformation" is causing the higher Covid deaths? For all we know, those higher deaths might be caused by the proven Democrat Disinformation that appeared on Left wing Democrat controlled media all throughout 2020 while they were trying to discredit President Trump and was presented right here in these forums.

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bgreene 12-20-2021 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 246185)
I'll neither deny nor agree with your link, since it does not provide the information you asserted, namely that people are dying at a higher rate because of Republican disinformation on Covid.

Your link merely publishes the results of a survey done by the Kaiser Family Foundation (whoever they are), and requires the reader to firstly believe that the 8 items they say are misinformation are true. Then it publishes the survey results broken down into Republican vs Democrat. However it does not publish what kind of a survey it was, not how many of each group were interviewed. Was it a weighted survey? and if so what weight ws given to each category?

So again I'll ask you, where and what is the proof of your statement that "Republican Disinformation" is causing the higher Covid deaths? For all we know, those higher deaths might be caused by the proven Democrat Disinformation that appeared on Left wing Democrat controlled media all throughout 2020 while they were trying to discredit President Trump and was presented right here in these forums.

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Deny deny deny - and spin with your little games such as request for “ weighted survey”
Meanwhile the hospital death records are proof .

Destroyer 12-20-2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 246190)
Deny deny deny - and spin with your little games such as request for “ weighted survey”
Meanwhile the hospital death records are proof .

No, the death records, if true, merely are proof of the ratio. They provide no proof of Republican disinformation. In fact, the ONLY disinformation I have seen is the Democrat disinformation that was posted here in these forums.

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bgreene 12-20-2021 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 246203)
No, the death records, if true, merely are proof of the ratio. They provide no proof of Republican disinformation. In fact, the ONLY disinformation I have seen is the Democrat disinformation that was posted here in these forums.

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Exercising their right to die from COVID you claim ?
Meanwhile FACT is doctors and nurses reporting these folk requesting the vaccine from their hospital beds - and unfortunately being told it’s too late .

Spin spin spin destroyer that’s nearly all you do - in past vulgar terms, past hysterics, now your professorial approach . It’s all mostly just spin, just like your hero - the lying cheating con man traitor LOSER Donald Orange make up face trump .

Destroyer 12-21-2021 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 246215)
Exercising their right to die from COVID you claim ?
Meanwhile FACT is doctors and nurses reporting these folk requesting the vaccine from their hospital beds - and unfortunately being told it’s too late .

Spin spin spin destroyer that’s nearly all you do - in past vulgar terms, past hysterics, now your professorial approach . It’s all mostly just spin, just like your hero - the lying cheating con man traitor LOSER Donald Orange make up face trump .

It was reported long, long (months) ago when the vaccine first came out about people asking for the vax too late. Very sad. They should never have believed those Democrats that told them to wait. They paid with their lives for Democrat lies.

Again, personal insults without any basis in fact. I asked politely for an answer and all we get in return is more of your witless remarks. Are you incapable of answering politely?

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bgreene 12-21-2021 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 246236)
It was reported long, long (months) ago when the vaccine first came out about people asking for the vax too late. Very sad. They should never have believed those Democrats that told them to wait. They paid with their lives for Democrat lies.

Again, personal insults without any basis in fact. I asked politely for an answer and all we get in return is more of your witless remarks. Are you incapable of answering politely?

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Wrong again destroyer - the highest concentration of deaths from covid is occurring in the counties where people mostly voted for trump .
Trump the mask mocker loved seeing his mask less crowds even though he knew they were putting themselves at great COVID risk.
Meanwhile Biden wore the mask as example of doing the right thing for all.

Unless I misquote, you’ll never be more correct than me - never .
The reasons have nothing to do with ego or intelligence destroyer .
It’s because I track and support THE TRUTH and FACTS .

The truth and facts nearly always prevail destroyer - just like good over evil .
You’re on the wrong side, which is why you spin, minimize , and exaggerate in desperate effort to support the lying cheating con man traitor donald Trump.


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