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RidgeRunner 09-22-2009 08:46 AM

Got it. I know it to be risky by myself but the motor height was the first thing I checked. The lighter 200 was perfect mounted in the top hole the cav plate was right on top at 40 mph. The 250 seems to be a little low, I can barely see the top of the plate while underway and I mounted it using the second hole. It has a tiny bit of spray coming off the lower on one side only. 3/4" higher should do it. The bracket was mounted per the directions.
The Mirage 19 will be my next prop to test.
BTW I have been posting for a album. I need to reach 100 posts. LOL
At this rate my album will be here next week.

RidgeRunner 09-23-2009 01:34 PM

Nothing to report. Bronchitis slowing me down. Hope the boat is immune. I've looked into actual hp numbers on the 250 EFI and I think with a little more setup it might reach 58mph.
I have been second guessing the decision for more speed. I think this old girl deserves better treatment than what she is getting right now. You know, run hard and put away wet. I am a gearhead but I don't really have the speed bug. Besides fat people get distorted over 55mph...

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Genie Aye 09-24-2009 01:13 AM

Just a question--Is not the 250 over the rating for the boat>>

Mine has a rating of a 235hp.

Just curious if these boats varied on the HP ratings for different years.

spareparts 09-24-2009 06:39 AM

I'd raise teh engine to the top hole and try the 21 Mirage, if you get the engine too high, you will know it, then you won't have to wonder how it will run rasied anotehr hole, its allways easier to drop the engine down a hole than raise it. Liek I said, my friends 20 grady spins a 19, its a heavier boat than a V, plus he has a big T-top with full cnavas. That 225 Yamaha spins teh 19 with no problem. I don't remeber the different gear ratios on teh Yamaha verses your 250 Merc (1.75 i think), but I'd guess you should be able to spin a 21.

RidgeRunner 09-24-2009 06:46 AM

The hp rating on the boat in 1983 was 200 or 235. I know the early 20's were rated much lower. Going back to 1970 for instance there was no such thing as a 200 hp outboard. The max rating was 135 in that year. Several factors have led to the change in hp rating over the years. At some point I belive they changed due to Wellcrafts decision to go with the OMC SEADRIVES.
You raise a good point and in doing so opened the preverbial can of worms. What is the law? My 20 has no plackard for hp max persons etc.
I really don't have plans to run this package for long but say I get pulled by a wildlife officer, what would happen?
There is a really cool website for fast boats called SCREAMANDFLY.com, It is absolutely insane what motor and boat combinations you will see there. I don't think it really matters what you put on the back of the boat until it is
1. Time to ante up for insurance or
2. When you are sitting in court trying to defend your bacon after something went terribly wrong. :cen:

THEFERMANATOR 09-24-2009 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by spareparts (Post 148467)
I'd raise teh engine to the top hole and try the 21 Mirage, if you get the engine too high, you will know it, then you won't have to wonder how it will run rasied anotehr hole, its allways easier to drop the engine down a hole than raise it. Liek I said, my friends 20 grady spins a 19, its a heavier boat than a V, plus he has a big T-top with full cnavas. That 225 Yamaha spins teh 19 with no problem. I don't remeber the different gear ratios on teh Yamaha verses your 250 Merc (1.75 i think), but I'd guess you should be able to spin a 21.

I know a friend of mine has a 21 KEY WEST with a 225 YAMAHA 4 stroke and he spins a 19 pitch STILLETTO to about the same RPM's that my 225 EVINRUDE spun a 15 STILLETTO, he maxed at 6100 running 52 and I maxed at 6400 running about 50-51. Those 4 strokes have a pretty deep gear ratio to them in the lower unit.

RidgeRunner 09-24-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR (Post 148482)
I know a friend of mine has a 21 KEY WEST with a 225 YAMAHA 4 stroke and he spins a 19 pitch STILLETTO to about the same RPM's that my 225 EVINRUDE spun a 15 STILLETTO, he maxed at 6100 running 52 and I maxed at 6400 running about 50-51. Those 4 strokes have a pretty deep gear ratio to them in the lower unit.

Ok, local marinas looking to see what they have for props. One said YES over the phone to several 21p test props and when I showed up in person you would have thought I was speaking Russian, Nyet!!.
Raising the motor to the highest position on the bracket, Friday. That idea is genious. Tweaking on the throttle plates to adjust idle down a bit.
My motor guru claimed mid-50's. He stated that I would be fighting the wind with my t-top and console as it is currently set up.
Since I have totally hijacked this thread I would offer that a light 20 with the proper setup and 250hp would be able to achieve 60mph without question. It would be cool to start with a CC and install a small console all the way to the step for the casting platform.
Bare essentials with a bucket seat that just offers a view over the bow.
Or maybe a cuddy with a small windscreen. 60 would probably arrive with less than 250 hp if the hull was light enough.

Genie Aye 09-24-2009 11:21 AM

Does anyone know the actual HULL speed of the V-20??


As far as the HP deal--As I understand--it just will not meet CG approval and as long as you do not have a incident because of HP you should be cool--other than maybe insurance--make sure they know what is on the boat for power to cover your Butt.

spareparts 09-24-2009 07:13 PM

RR, look thru the gallery at "on the Fly's" boat. As far as the hp, change the stickers on the cowl to a 225

RidgeRunner 09-25-2009 07:57 AM

Spare, I have looked at all of the galleries. That is a small console. I call that the day boat look. Simple, functional and beautiful. It took me 10 years to do my 20 and that is too long. It gave my brain too much time to figure out how to make it overly complicated. Bells and whistles are nice but simple and functional are the reel roots of these boats IMO:)


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