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THEFERMANATOR 06-27-2008 06:54 PM

Electrical on a YAMAHA can get REAL expensive, REAL quick. May be a cheap fix, but without some testing couldn't give you much idea of it's condition.

bsteckel 06-27-2008 07:02 PM

ok ... will scratch that one off the list .

thanks

bigshrimpin 06-27-2008 10:58 PM

I'll take a picture of the Cherry 2.4L 175 that I picked up . . . Not a spec of rust on the steering arm or anywhere else on the motor. Compression is perfect on this engine 125 - 130psi.

bsteckel 06-28-2008 06:53 AM

that would be great!!! send it when you can, i would appreciate it.

Brad

whatknot 06-30-2008 09:35 AM

boat and motor...
 
Sorry it took so long to get back. I've hung the yamaha back on the 89 (ish) 20ft Mako.
Boat, motor and trailer (single axle) are for sale. Entire package is $6500. Boat itself needs a little love, but it's a solid hull. I would paint the deck. This has been a great inshore-nearshore fishing boat.

Bimini top, bow rail, (not mounted for shrimpin)

Motor runs strong and is clean. Absolutely nothing, I mean nothing wrong with this motor.
The only reason I'm selling it is I've upgraded to a 150 4 stroke courtesy of my Dad!
nada =$4200 on motor only.

Motor has Sea Star hydraulics on it. $300
Selling digital Guages with wiring. $350

Can't post any pics cause photophukit won't let me log in.
See gallery center console page 3 for motor only. Look for Whatknot...

bigshrimpin 06-30-2008 05:11 PM

Sorry - I've been busy here. The 1993 200 2.5L is gone, but I took in a pair of 1981 Merc 2.4L 225's and a set of 2000 150 2.5L Mercury EFI's are coming tomorrow. I'll get a picture of the 1986 175 up tonight. I might have another 175 shortly :)

bsteckel 06-30-2008 06:23 PM

big shrimpin .. thanks ..

i like the sound of the newer motors ... '86 is a little older than i would like .. pm me on what you have and what you are lookin to get for them, especially the 175 you have coming in and the '00 motors.

thanks and keep me posted ..

bigshrimpin 07-01-2008 06:30 PM

Here's the 1986 175 2.4L Mercury. They don't get any cleaner than this!!

Compression 125 - 130psi in all 6 cylinders.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...781_Medium.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...786_Medium.jpg

bigshrimpin 07-01-2008 06:35 PM

1989 2.0L Mercury 135. It's a 20" motor, but I have a 25" mid that will swap. I can make it black or grey. Also a freshwater motor. Compression is 115psi in all 6.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...765_Medium.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...766_Medium.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...763_Medium.jpg

bigshrimpin 07-01-2008 06:36 PM

$1600 for the 2.4L 175 or $1800 for the 2.0L 135.

The 2000 150 EFI is rebuildable and I'm going to save that for myself.
The other one is sold already.

THEFERMANATOR 07-01-2008 08:21 PM

If it were for me, I would go with the 135. It appears to have the 40 amp charging, and you can't beat a 2.0L for reliability and durability.

bigshrimpin 07-02-2008 07:54 AM

Let me know ASAP. I'm putting them up on ebay tonight :)

bsteckel 07-02-2008 08:13 AM

a couple of things .. do you have pics of the hoods ?

which one is nicer cosmetically? want something that looks much newer than it is. i am very anal that way.

i am worried that the 135 will be too small for my boat. not sure what the perf difference will be from the 150-175 hp.

what comes with them as far as prop / and or controls. or do you have these items and how much additional ?

also, how would we work out delivery? will try to get back to you asap. . i am on vaca this week and not on the computer as much lately.

bsteckel 07-02-2008 08:35 AM

and basically the only diff between a 135 and a 150 2.0 motor is the carbs .. how hard is it to get back that hp?

randlemanboater 07-02-2008 08:40 AM

Man, you won't find anything better than those last two at twice the price.

THEFERMANATOR 07-02-2008 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsteckel (Post 124070)
and basically the only diff between a 135 and a 150 2.0 motor is the carbs .. how hard is it to get back that hp?

Find a saet of 150 carbs. The 135's are the same engine as the early 150's. When they went to rating them at the prop the 150 became a 135, and the 175 became a 150. So just find a set of late 80's 150 carbs or early 80's 175 carbs. I don't remember the exact WH number on em right now.

bigshrimpin 07-02-2008 01:29 PM

I have a set of 2.0L 150 carbs that I'll include with the deal if you want them . . . I'd recommend cleaning them first before bolting them on.

The exhaust tuner is different too. I can put a 2.4L 200hp tuner and that'll bump up the HP some.

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Personally I think you'd be happier with the 2.4L 175 . . . cause that's what I run on my boat.

bsteckel 07-02-2008 02:00 PM

shrimpin ... see my post from 9:13 am this morning .. a few other questions.

thanks

bigshrimpin 07-02-2008 07:28 PM

It sounds like you want a newer motor, so don't feel obligated . . . I'm just showing you what I have. I'll make a run back to the shop tomorrow and get some photos of the cowlings. The lid for the mariner has the decals removed it's sea ray motor. The Mercury 175 is the clamshell style and it's in great shape for it's age. Keep in mind the 175 can easily be converted to the newer bucket style cowling with the hard mounts. I have a decent 1998 135 Mercury cowling now. Controls are included (they are NOT new, but they work)

I can deliver for roughly $250 and hang either motor. What town are you in again?

I got an 1989 175 in yesterday, but it's not ready. Steering arm is very rusty.

bsteckel 07-02-2008 09:40 PM

how bout a ss prop?

pics would be great ... also pic of the newer style cowling.

i am in effort, pa .. pocono mountains .. about 8 miles south of the pocono raceway if you are a nascar fan.

i am no where near ready for motor to be mounted ..would meet you somewhere rather than have you come all the way here.

i just worry about a motor that is that old ... but you would know better than me what goes wrong with these motors ..

maybe technology is not that much different from a 1993 motor to a 1986 motor ??

THEFERMANATOR 07-02-2008 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsteckel (Post 124108)
maybe technology is not that much different from a 1993 motor to a 1986 motor ??

On the MERC's there isn't really much technology change from the early 80's to late 90's. Some of the newer engines actually had less desireable parts for some uses. The early engines in some instances actually had better performing parts, sometimes the other way though. Just because it's newer don't make it better. My 98 200HP EVINRUDE has an 89 powerhead because the original 98 block rotted out in the liners. It's a crap shoot with any engine, unfortunately you can't predict if or when they will go.

randlemanboater 07-03-2008 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR (Post 124077)
Find a saet of 150 carbs. The 135's are the same engine as the early 150's. When they went to rating them at the prop the 150 became a 135, and the 175 became a 150. So just find a set of late 80's 150 carbs or early 80's 175 carbs. I don't remember the exact WH number on em right now.

BST may never find a motor to suit him, but this has been a very informative thread so far.

I always wondered why Merc would "detune" the 150 to make a 135, now I know "the rest of the story".


Bygracealone 07-03-2008 08:52 AM

tell you what, if I were in the market, I'd be taking you up on one of these BS...

You've got some CLEAN motors there...

BS, where you livin' now? Did you make your final transition back to the east coast?

bigshrimpin 07-03-2008 11:33 AM

I'm in Whitman, MA . . . almost next door to CB in Rockland (south shore area). I've been able to find some unusually clean freshwater motors, since I've come back here. The stuff in CA is all clean . . . the saltwater stuff is awful to tear down when I get a parts motor in trade. The 2000 150 EFI's looked brand new. I'm selling the block for the same price I paid for the blown motor :)

bsteckel 07-03-2008 02:05 PM

well, i sure do hope i find a motor to suit me....:) it seems like every one i find, has some issues that are uncovered.

i would like something that is not an antique, and does not look like an antique.

i guess there are not many guys out there that keep things in good shape. i have seen motors that i would not even think of hanging on my boat .. i dont care how good they say they run. unfortunately i have this hangup with appearance .. i need things to look as good as they perform.

BS ..your motors look nice and clean .. maybe i can get a newer hood to bring the looks back into the 90's and get close to the 200 hp i am looking for. that may fit the bill nicely.

shoot me some pics of what you have... also need a prop.

also stumbled on a '93 yammi 150 here in DEL while on vaca. guy is kinda high on price at this point, but that may change.

i agree with the fact that this thread has been informative. i know i have learned a lot and hopefully someone who is doing what i am doing in the future can benefit as well.

i wish i was not on such a budget .. i could have saved hours and just hung a new one on there ..but thats not gonna happen.

bsteckel 07-03-2008 02:28 PM

found something else when i was at the bait store today ..

150 yamaha ... but only a 20" shaft.

how hard and costly would it be to convert to a 25" motor? is a 1986 model year motor.

bsteckel 07-03-2008 03:33 PM

BS .. do either of your motors look like this one?

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/communit...ead.php?t=1125&

bigshrimpin 07-03-2008 04:15 PM

I have this 175 XRI cowling from my motor . . . from my 1979 V200.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...2/DSCN6661.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...2/DSCN6992.jpg


If you like :)

bsteckel 07-03-2008 05:47 PM

yes .. that cowling is nice .. looks like the one i put the link to.

why don't you PM me a number so we can talk specifics ..

thanks.

willy 07-03-2008 06:02 PM

Bsteckle, got to tell ya, if I was shopping for a Merc I would be heading to Mass. as quick as my F250 would take me to get an engine from Tim.

bsteckel 07-03-2008 07:20 PM

will do willy ... hopefully we can work something out .. maybe he is a nascar fan and will be coming to Pocono for a race sometime soon :):sun:

my diesel is pretty thirsty and at $5+ per gal, i may have to take a loan for the trip :bat: .

bsteckel 07-05-2008 09:26 PM

BS ... called you today .. left you a voicemail message.

bsteckel 07-11-2008 09:38 PM

Hey Shrimpin ..

what happened to the 175 that went on ebay? no longer listed?

bigshrimpin 07-11-2008 11:21 PM

sale pending ;) I just took in a nice 80's Mariner 2.0L.
If you want a bargain . . . I'll let this one go for $1250.
I've got to go through it this week . . . and it's the first week of commercial bass,
so it might happen next week.

bsteckel 07-12-2008 07:17 AM

ok .. keep me posted ... call me or email ..

i can also give you my work number so that the call is free:clap:

and go catch some !!!!!!

Brad

bigshrimpin 07-18-2008 09:26 PM

Here's a few pics of another one :) It was a 20" so I didn't even mention it. I'll call you Monday.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...873_Medium.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...870_Medium.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...905_Medium.jpg

shaneburris74 07-19-2008 03:57 PM

Informative thread for Merc owners!
 
I have read this entire thread and it has been very informing. I'm actually thinking about hanging my 150 merc on my V-20 cuddy now once it is ready to receive.
I was wanting to sell it and get a Yammie or a Johnnie Rud but reading all this makes me think I oughta just keep it and save my money. It broke 2 out of the first 3 times I had it out. BUT Since I've got the electonics lined out (swithboxes of course) it has given me no problems. It still has a stigma with me because I had to limp back a few miles on 3 cylinders. I still haven't forgiven it yet. It is steadily gaining back my trust though.

Can you tell me if I have one of the 2.0L's that you guys speak so highly of? Here is my motor info.

Motor is a 1993 150cxr standard carbed 150 25" Serial number is OD206574

bigshrimpin 07-20-2008 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsteckel (Post 124169)
well, i sure do hope i find a motor to suit me....:) it seems like every one i find, has some issues that are uncovered.

This is going to be true with every $1500 - $2500 motor. People wouldn't be selling them if there was nothing wrong with them. You just need to figure out if the problems are something you can fix or deal with. If you keep looking you'll find a gem. If you can wait until Nov/Dec . . . You can get some smokin deals. You just need to budget for it and not blow your wad until the holiday season.

The value I add (or at least am trying to add) to the buying equation is that I've done the leg work to locate exceptional older motors and fixed any issues with them. I will not sell POS motors or attempt to mask major problems . . . those motors get stripped of good parts and go to the scrap yard.

randlemanboater 07-21-2008 04:10 PM

Here's one that MIGHT be good enough.

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/boa/761110038.html

bigshrimpin 07-21-2008 09:20 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=170241273229


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