Also good advice on the length Stink. That's the one regret I have with my Manta Ray 12. I wish I got the 14. Overall, I'm not complaining too much though. I still like mine very much. I would have had to wait several weeks or more for the 14 if I wanted it. They had the 12 in stock, so I went with it. It's very comfortable for extended trips. I usually recommend the Manta Ray's to everyone I talk to. They really are well made and nice layout.

methinks thou dost protest too much.

(gay).

hey chum, i would like to find something like this.
it would have to handle 250 pounds and be an all purpose boat.
daytripping, recreation, exercise and ocean surf.
any ideas?
i kinda like the low center of gravity the sit in offers.

Personally, I would go with a Wilderness Systems Pungo if I were looking for a sit in type. You have to think about getting in and out of that thing when you're wearing your "thick" shirt. :you:

Seriously though. The Pungo is one of the better sit in types suited for all of the above and they have a larger cockpit opening to allow easier entry and exit. I don't know about you, but if my legs start getting cramped and I can't move them, I start getting anxious to get out.
Something to think about.

whadaya like, the 120?
looks like a sleek boat.

The Pungo 120 is a good boat.:clap:

aint cheap neither.

i need me a deal.

craigslist. Keep looking. They do pop up there from time to time.

I'm going to look at the Fish and Dive on Wednesday or Thursday, its the last grey one he has in stock. I'm hoping to try a couple of different seats and paddles too. I trash picked a couple of pieces of square metal tubing from an old universal gym set from my neighbor. They fit perfect in my hitch receiver so i'm going to try and modify them to act as a bed extender like Stink built. I'll take some pictures when I get home with the new yak.