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msbhammer 07-10-2007 04:56 PM

Re: I'm Back in the Water! - Yes new Pictures.
 
Job well done. ;)

BuilderFL 07-11-2007 06:22 PM

Re: I'm Back in the Water! - Yes new Pictures.
 
The batteries were moved forward under the console.

kamikaze 07-11-2007 10:35 PM

Re: I'm Back in the Water! - Yes new Pictures.
 
BuilderFL:

Unfortunately you have the problem most (with the noted exception of MJ and Willy) whom have convert to bracket have experienced. I also believe Willy and MJ were both Cutty Cabins converted to bracket and not CC. Maybe the weight distribution between the two hull configurations is very different.

I am experiencing the same issues you describe, but not to the same extent. I am planning on moving the gas tank forward to level the hull and hopefully clear the up the problem. As a side note I to am not happy with the current position of the motor / bracket position in its current elevation and have already lowered the bracket so that the cavitation plate is level with the keel (No raise over the 26" set back of the bracket). But have seem little improvement from the previous position where is was up 3". I say this because I believe the two problems ( hull level and engine elevation) are directly related. No sense trying to fix one with addressing the other.

Just my 2 cents.

Kamikaze


reelapeelin 07-11-2007 11:39 PM

Re: I'm Back in the Water! - Yes new Pictures.
 
Builder...whadda Purdy Boat you got !! ;) ...all the hard work paid off big time ... you may not get yer $$ outta it, but maybe something more important and especially if you involved the kids ;) ...


Surprised to hear porpoiseing w/those tabs ??? ...

spareparts 07-12-2007 12:24 AM

Re: I'm Back in the Water! - Yes new Pictures.
 
Builder, looking at your pics, it looks like you could add floatation compartments under your platform on each side that could double as afterplanes while getting your boat out of the hole without sinking your motor, I've seen a platform like that before, just can't remember where. The added floatation would alow the boat to set level when at rest, and when getting on plane, the bottom surface of the floatation compartments would act like big fixed tabs, once on plane, these areas would be out of the water, so as to not add drag. I've also seen a plate that bolts to teh bottom of the jack plate that helps getting on plane without sinking the motor

BuilderFL 07-12-2007 08:09 PM

Re: I'm Back in the Water! - Yes new Pictures.
 
Kami, you are right. Need to address both issues, hence the jack plate I installed because lowering the bracket was not an option ( no space to do so).
[IMG] http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q..._0040Small.jpg [/IMG]

Now that you pointed out the difference between CC & Cuddy, I looked closely at MC's picture and noticed that his weight center is closer to the bow that with ours. The Cuddy has the weight 1/3 forward were as we have it 1/3 aft.
What do you think about my gas tank theory? I mean, filling up my 98 gals (about 612 lbs) to balance so weight forward?
This is the location of the original tank.
[IMG] http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...L/NewFoam2.jpg [/IMG]

This is the new tank plus my fresh water tank (20 gals) about 160 lbs.

[IMG] http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...0-24-06007.jpg [/IMG]

With 1/3 tank, about 32 gals. all the gas weight moves aft.

The V20 Gods are welcome to comment! All other too.

BuilderFL 07-12-2007 08:14 PM

Re: I'm Back in the Water! - Yes new Pictures.
 
Reel, once I'm on plane and raise the trim tabs I start to porpoise. Again, I think is a weight issue. If I leave them down, she rides very good but it's very expensive on gas to drag those big tabs.

reelapeelin 07-12-2007 11:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BuilderFL
Reel, once I'm on plane and raise the trim tabs I start to porpoise. Again, I think is a weight issue. If I leave them down, she rides very good but it's very expensive on gas to drag those big tabs.



Builder ... my buddy's new Everglades ... I drove it when he 1st got it ...it has a new Verado w/all the Smart gauges, etc...I drove it when he 1st got it and watched the fuel-flow actually DROP when tabs applied ;) ... not too much or it'll have the affect you mention, but the right balance should SAVE fuel and keep that bow under control :D ...





kamikaze 07-13-2007 12:02 AM

Re: I'm Back in the Water! - Yes new Pictures.
 
BuilderFl:

Tank should do it, only problem being as you burn fuel up front the problem will return. Also it will take more weight to counter act the imbalance already taking place. Understand its not a option for you after your overhaul, but that is why I am going to relocate my current tank vice, weighing down the bow. I'm also not sure how the hull will act if the bow becomes to heavy.

After my experience I can tell you I look at a boat balance/weight distribution much differently than before. And I have seen a lot of brand new boats (4 Strokes, duals engines etc..) that have the exact same problem. Hard to find a hull the rides evenly across wide range of speed. Most raise the bow up so much during acceleration that you can't even see where your going!

Kamikaze

msbhammer 07-13-2007 01:27 AM

Re: I'm Back in the Water! - Yes new Pictures.
 
Yank off that heavy Bracket and just go with the jackplate. I guess I could take off your hands and use it. ;D

M.J. great Pics. of your V in the water. ;)


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