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thanx so i know im in thr right ball park
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Step, my apologies, but can't remember what hp motor you're hangin' off that bracket... ::)...
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I'm running a 14x19" pitch Vengeance, SS, 3-blade. Tops out @ 49mph w/200 Merc.
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Tin, what kinda RPMs ya gettin' outta that @ WOT?...
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RAP, not sure on RPM's, tach not working correctly, shows only about 3300 at WOT. I've got a couple electrical gremlins I'm tryin to work out.
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Gotcha, Tin...is the tach adjusted to the motor it's presently hooked up to?... ???...
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I have an 85 merc 150 on mine and since I am quite fond of running up on shoals and oyster bars as well as getting stuck at low or wind tide where I have to chew my way back into deep water , I now only run a 4 blade comprop.Its a 13.7 x 18. Sand eats up aluminum very quick and they are not cheap to fix. You can get 4 blade comprops on ebay for 20 or 30 bucks and if you bust off a fin just throw them away .I cant go fast down here anyway because of the shallow water shoals and the sloppy ocean conditions most of the time. I tested the speed in the intercoastal a while back with a hand held GPS and it showed 37 with me , my dog and a full tank of gas and I have bottom paint ..Frank
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Not sure...I don't see any settings on the back of Tach. Boat did have a Force 150, is that a 4-cylinder? Maybe that's my problem??? |
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Stock Aluminum prop on '75 135 HP Evinrude, 13x19, hitting 4800RPM max and 38MPH (GPS), two people, 3/4 tank ( 45 gallon capacity). Yesterday ordered new 13 1/4 x 17 to try to get a little more RPM's.
But, from reading boards, looks like link and sync might be all that was needed, or might need to do in addition to prop. Is that a simply task to perform? |
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Tin, what mfgr of the tach (Teleflex or who?)...there should be a slotted plastic screw-head flush w/ the back of the tach's case w/ small markings at the different settings...you might have to shine a light in there to see it...
Sfprovyn, what is tach showin' at 37 mph?...for a 150, I'm thinkin' you got some more performance that small dia. and 18 pitch prop ain't geetin' for ya...IMHO, these heavy V20s need a larger dia. prop as I tried several and got best from a 15 1/4" dia. ;) ...and keep in mind that the wrong prop will overwork the motor and shorten life, not to mention a negative fuel efficiency... :-/... |
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I dont have a tach so I dont know about the RPM's. A friend of mine told me that I would be better off if I went to 14.5 x17 in a 4 blade and I think I may borrow his to try out. Frank
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hey i want to thank you guys for the info on the prop
i went from a 13 1/4 x 19 to a 15 x17 and just like you said no more cavitation and more speed it throse you back when you throttle up A BIG THANKS FOR YOUR HELP you saved me alot of cash thanks again now all i gotta do is fix the knocking in reverse go to repair section |
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step...glad to hear it worked out for ya!! ;) ...you ZOOMIN' NOW!!! ;D ;D
SFprovyn...gonna be hard to tell if right prop w/ out tach... ;)... |
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You are right. I just put in an old Merc tach and hooked it up and saturday my friend is going to loan me a 15.5 x 17 3 blade aluminum prop that he has on his v-20 center console also with a merc 150..He gets around 42 and has bottom paint also. He thinks I should get 4 MPH more with the bigger prop. I'll let you know. Thanks Frank
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That prop...you on the right track now ;) ...
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the right prop?
i have a 5.0 mercruiser I/O and my top speed is 35 at 4200 rpms I have noticed a lot of cavitation. Anyone have a good idea about what kind of prop i should have The prop on it now is a 19 pitch. not sure what diameter but there is a little more that in inch clearance with the trim tab. Maybe a four blade thats bigger?
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you guys keep mentioning bottom paint. does it make much difference if you have it or not? better speed?
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Bottom paint creates more drag and you lose speed. You dont lose much though, about 1/2 a knot maybe 1 knot. You only need bottom paint if your going to leave it in the water. If its already on there dont take it off. Its way to much work.
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yosh09 welcome aboard! Bill Mc ;D
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yosh...contact these guys and tell 'em what you got and what's goin' on w/ it...they'll fix ya up! ;)
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reelapeelin: I hooked up my merc tach yesterday and ran the 3 blade aluminum 15.5 by 17 and it was a real eye opener. Red line is 5,600 for the Merc 150. I ran it up to a little over 5,400 and the GPS speed was right at 41 MPH solid with a half tank of gas , trimmed up and just me. I am now using the 4 blade comprop as a spare. I think I am going to leave well enough alone...Many thanks for your prop advice , Frank
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sfprovyn, GLAD to hear it worked out for ya!! ;D ...that size prop seems to be turnin' in best numbers for these V 20s w/ 150s... 8)...
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I've got a 260hp Volvo I/O 280T with a Michigan 15x19 3 blade aluminum prop. *I feel my numbers could really be improved with a better prop, but I'm having trouble getting numbers for it. *I don't even know what my WOT rpm is. *The highest I've ever taken it was 4000 rpm, the book states 4400 for WOT, but it seems like I have a lot more to give it. *The trouble is, I hardly ever get any flat water here and the boat is coming completely out of the water by 4000. *My cruise is only 28 mph at 3200 rpm and 2500 rpm only gets me 12 mph. *I would like something that holds on to the water a little better at 2500 and would help pick up my cruise some. *I could care less about the top end, I've got no use for that. *I was looking at a 14 3/8ths x 19 4 blade stainless. *There may be a 330-350 hp engine in this boat's future as well (fuel efficiency reasons). *Don't worry about overpowering the hull, the motor will be derated from a 5500 rpm redline to 4500 which should keep me within the 310 horsepower rating for my hull. These numbers are with full gas, gear, and 2 POB.
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18.5 dia
aluminum 5500 rpm 42 mph i have a new rebuilt chevy 305 with a 2 barrel.......saves gas! volvo penta 280 outdrive |
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sfprovyn - Keep your eyes peeled on ebay for
17 Merc Mirage Plus 17 or 19 Mercury Offshore (Vensura) 19 Mercury Laser2 17 or 19 Mercury Tempest The Mirage, Offshore and Laser 2 pop up on ebay - now and again for under $200. You'll pick up an extra 2-4 mph . . . just by changing to a thinner blade stainless. These are all good designs above. |
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BS, I'm running a 14x19 Vengeance. Is that a low end SS prop?
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Tin - Vengeance is a good prop, but it's not as fast as the Offshore, Laser or Tempest Plus.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercu...QQcmdZViewItem
This would be good for someone with a 150hp Merc or Yamaha. |
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After hangin' on the Honda, I tried a Merc Mirage 15 1/2 x 17...GREAT performance, but a little too heavy and caused a rattle in the gear-case...would probably turn in good numbers on the 150 Merc on a V-20... ;)...
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I'm with Big Joe, 1980 175 Evinrude and I run a 15 X 17, I do mostly off shore fishing and have never really been that concerned with top end. What I like about the 15 X 17 is that it is more of a power prop, I can set the throttle and the trim and push my way solidly through a 3 foot sea without any slippage and a fairly smooth ride.
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what speeds are other getting with 200 HP O/B motors.
I'd really like to know what speeds you all are getting with 225 hp O/B motors |
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ok bump this will help save time on the v20 performance question
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'73 Center Console
Original motor Evinrude '75 135hp max speeds 4900 RPM @ 35 MPH 13x19 SS (old beat up prop) 4600 RPM @ 31 MPH 13.25x17 Alu (new $130 Mich Wheel) Upgraded motor to: Evinrude '83 175hp original old prop SST 14-1/4x21 4500rpm @ 43MPH (max) replaced with $50 ebay prop, 15x17 SST II tops out fully loaded at 43mph (GPS) @ 5400rpm normal cruising speed of 30mph @ 3800rpm Keep in mind when comparing numbers, the hp rating change in '84/'85 means this 175hp would be about the same as an '85 and newer 150hp. |
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'85 V20 Cuddy
'90 225 evinrude 14 1/2 X 19 stainless 5500 max rpms 3800-4400 cruise guestimate 50+/- mph @ WOT |
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man i'm so glad to see them results Brad great that's the same setup i and building currently glad to know my prop is close or right.
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Those results are an educated guess. I don't have a gps and you can't trust a boat speedometer. I've owned and been on several boats and it does seem to haul a$$ for as heavy as she is. I try to lighten the load as much as possible only carrying necessary gear, but I always have a full fuel tank.
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What a thread. Goes back a ways, what you thinkin Skools?
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This is all I got.
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/communit...ad.php?t=12543 |
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