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Anyone ever use West system for bonding wood. I used it with cloth and had no problems, just a bit skepical on how strong it really is when it comes to bonding wood to teh fiberglass skin.

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Might it be appropriate to put a layer of 6oz cloth between the plywood sheets? THat's what I had in mind, but I'm certainly no expert...

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Dont know, thought I could bond both pieces of wood together ??? ???
Guess I'm gonna have to shoot down to West Marine for those free booklets. :-/

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When I fixed the hole in my boat for the bracket I put cloth between the two pieces of ply. But like air I am no excpert either. But it is solid as a rock!!

I also used some screws to hold all toghter, after it was dry I took them out, did not want anything to rust in there.

You are doing a good job for a first timer!!

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you don't want to leave those screws in the transom and you should have placed a layer of glass between the wood. then once it dried ground the glass to be rough and wet out then wet outthe second layer of wood then clamped in the second layer. then glass it in with 2 to 3 layers of glass

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Thanks MJ and SKOOL, so I guess I will add in a sheet of cloth, let dry..grind..wet down along with second piece of wood and then clamp down...correct. ??? ;)

Need more West System. Gonna go beg at the boat yard in the morning.

Re: Hammer's transom Rebuild
 

to late to glass now cause youhave resined now just grind the resin you put on the first layer to rough up wet out and wet out the second layer and clamp on without glass between.

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Good to know this. I didnt think I needed cloth between the wood, as if how frayed was bonding in the wood to his skin of his fuel tank cover.
SKOOL, ship me some resin brother. ;)

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Skools, correct me if I'm wrong, but the ideal method would go something like this...using slow cure hardener:

1. Scuff the inside of the outer skin.

2. Wet out a layer of cloth
3. Sheet of ply
4. Layer of Cloth
5. Second sheet of ply
6. Clamp the hell out of it ;D

Steps 2-6 could all be done in one shot to make for the best bond.

7. Scuff the last sheet of ply and lay up 3 layers of glass for the inner skin.

8. Have a frosty

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I'm at a loss now. Off to the scrapper. :-/

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NO loss Hammer....scuff the heck out of what you layed up yesterday, smear a mess of resin on there and go at it ;D You'll have a good bond, then glass it all in when done. It's not gonna come out of there in your lifetime ;D

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Look at it like this....your making a 1.5" sheet of ply....and I gaurantee that the west epoxy bonds better than whatever glue they use to make the ply.... ;)

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Just scuff it all up good!! wet it add cloth and next piece of ply, clamp or screw toghter!

Will never come apart in the next 10 years and it won't be yours!!

Remeber to take out the screws!!

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Ok, you guys got me motivated to try again. Going down to work on the V now. Will be back at 9pm.
camera in hand as well. ;)

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right on Air except you don't need a layer of cloth between the outer skin and the wood. best is to do as i did for my Sea Ox i called boat manufactors asking where they buy their transom wood cause todays boats are built with 1 layer of ply wood that's 2 in thick. i bought a 40 layer 2" thick 5 x 10 sheet from a place in Greensboro NC for $98 and cut my own transom. this is where Parker and Grady buy their transoms. Itis kill dried treated. If you can buy treated that was killed afterwards it is best but higher.

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oh and yeah Air the slower your resin sets up the better.

Hammer don't glue the camera to your hand or transom lol

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Cloth, no cloth, cloth, no cloth. AHHHHH :-X :-X :-X
Well I sanded down the inner wood today as you guys suggested and went to town. I did wet down two scrap pieces of wood last night and they were bonded for life. Made me wonder if I realy needed cloth or not between the wood. Well I went ahead and added in a shet of cloth. With the cooler temps, it seemed that I had some longer working time. Smoking crack still helped though. :-X and I worked quick.

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Uh, hey, big guy.......




How 'bout some freaking pix ? ;D

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And here are some pix for all you pix HO's "Air". ;D

Hit the inside with the power grinder to scuff her up.



http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02813.jpg

Cutting out my second piece.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02814.jpg

Wetting in some cloth. Hope the cloth works. ??? ???
Skool is right about teh camera. it was sticking to my fingers. :o

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02815.jpg

Ahh, I did it, gotthe second piece in.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02816.jpg

What a relief, I did it. 1.5 transom installed. ;D ;D
Screwed, glued and I got tattooed falling out of teh boat and landing on all my junk lying on the ground. :'(

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02817.jpg

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Hey Hammer, pm me your address, I got something to send to you.

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Gonna fill in some gaps where the transom wood meets the hull, a little more grinding. Cant do much more, out of resin. :-/
Getting off the gray primer is a pain, hoping to sand blast out next week. Also want to replace teh battery tray, its soft as well.

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Will do Franco. Is it a 5 gallon jug of resin. ;D
I love Frreebees. ;D ;D ;D

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No, sorry. Something me and the wifey spotted while out and about, she said it was made for you!

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Oh no, not another sex swing. Lefty pulled my neck out the last time we went swinging on it. LOL. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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What no new pics? :D I guess we all rested on Sunday, I spent the day with the kids in the pool and plotting in my head just how I want the boat to look when I'm done.

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No rest for HAmmer. Yes, I did more work on the V today.

Scuffed the wood up with the grinder, grinded some more gray paint off, filled in the gaps along the side, then tossed in my first piece of cloth. She's starting to come together. ;D

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Added in the free cloth I picked up at the boat yard. Most heaviest cloth you can get.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02819.jpg

Doesnt look pretty using scrap cloth, but I cant complain, its for free. Helps out on the gallon of West System I bought today. *:-[http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02820.jpg

Along the edges I used the West System 404 filler. All the gaps are filled and she's tight.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02821.jpg

Hoping to lay in some more cloth before I go in to work on Monday night. Like to get one complete first coat on.
Lefty says Hello to all. ;)
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02818.jpg

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Not to hi-jack my own thread here, but did Whopper sell his V ??
That V needs a transom as well dont it ??

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awesome work buddy. you are turning into a true craftsman ;D

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Looking good bro! Nice work!

Cant be free cloth either!! 8)

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I'm impressed :o *Its good to know that when my transom is shot I can take an hour long trip to Delaware for a rebuild ;)

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Me first Mulv, my V is already a few miles away from HAMMER. ;) ;) ;) ;D

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I'm dreading the real work, when the cap goes back on and filling in the seem as if it was never cut. I see alot of cloth, filler, sanding...and some cursing involved. ;D

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FROM THE LOOKS OF YOUR WORK SO FAR, YOULL NAIL IT ;)

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looks great hammer. I had to replace my whole deck from the fish box forward and was worried about how the finished deck would look. it looks great, you can't tell where the seam is. it will come together for you.

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Hey Phat, did you repaint the floor to hide your work ?
Plan on cutting a portion of te deck out and figured on repainting the deck with a textured paint to hide the seam where I cut.

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Not much done today, gotta work tonight. Snuck down for about an hour, ruffed up the cloth for its second coat and did alittle grinding on the stringers, trying to get off that gray paint.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02823.jpg

A little here and a little there, she'll get done. ;)
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC02822.jpg

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Hang in there Mike, you are pretty crafty for a man in blue ;)

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Thanks Willy. A project V is the last thing I need, but I was obsessed in knowing if I could do a transom job or not ;)

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Looks like a great job to me ;) ... you'll feel good Hammerin' around after it's finished ;) ...