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Destroyer 04-19-2022 12:04 PM

You know, some people are saying that big oil is responsible for the price of gas. I'm sure that might be part of the overall equation.

But while everyone is pointing to the 22 Billion that Exxon/Mobil has posted for profit no one seems to be talking about the 20 BILLION that they lost the year before. I'm just using Exxon/Mobil as an example. All of the other big oil companies posted similar profits and losses the year before.

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Pipe_Dream 04-19-2022 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 248989)
You know, some people are saying that big oil is responsible for the price of gas. I'm sure that might be part of the overall equation.

But while everyone is pointing to the 22 Billion that Exxon/Mobil has posted for profit no one seems to be talking about the 20 BILLION that they lost the year before. I'm just using Exxon/Mobil as an example. All of the other big oil companies posted similar profits and losses the year before.

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Funny how those some people always seem to get their "news" from the same outlets, isn't it.

I just read this opinion piece
LATEST LEFTIST OUTRAGE: ENERGY COMPANIES MAKING MONEY
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...king-money.php

scook 04-19-2022 01:25 PM

Nobody gives a rat's behind what the leftists, like you, are outraged about. Destroyer posted FACTS and all you can do is attempt, clumsily, to deflect from those simple, incontrovertible FACTS by crying "fake news from right wing sources" - news, which is not only absolutely true and correct, but totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.

More reason for you to do some serious self examination.

bgreene 04-19-2022 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 248998)
Nobody gives a rat's behind what the leftists, like you, are outraged about. Destroyer posted FACTS and all you can do is attempt, clumsily, to deflect from those simple, incontrovertible FACTS by crying "fake news from right wing sources" - news, which is not only absolutely true and correct, but totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.

More reason for you to do some serious self examination.

Suggest you calm down with the angry posts:
FACTS ARE

1. Fuel prices dropped sharply associated with the covid related economic downturn.
As such, the REPUBLICAN supporting BIG OIL CO’s profits tanked.

2. Fuel prices rebounded with the economic surge after covid, and the related global inflation .
As such the REPUBLICAN supporting BIG OIL CO’s profits SURGED - and they are making HUGE profits with HIGH gasoline prices

This is JUST THE FACT…..you can talk about new oil wells all you want but FACT is big oil
does NOT want too much supply - it’s bad for their business .

So blame the “ Dems” hahahah

scook 04-19-2022 03:13 PM

Not an angry post, just correcting your nonsense.

You've had the FACT that this year's profits are offsetting last year's losses in fairly equal measure, so your assertion of getting rich off high oil prices is debunked.

You continue to project your hatred of "Republicans" onto a situation where there is no relevance to the discussion.

It's curious, as opposed to your foolish assertions, that the oil companies were drilling and extracting domestically and we were energy independent, until the Biden administration threatened and then immediately did shut down every bit of domestic production they could affect.

You wonder why your posts have very little traction - they are nonsense, fueled by dishonest sources and your extreme, deep bias against anything that could remotely be associated with Trump or Republicans.

Please refer back to the self examination suggestion - you need it badly.

bgreene 04-19-2022 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 249001)
Not an angry post, just correcting your nonsense.

You've had the FACT that this year's profits are offsetting last year's losses in fairly equal measure, so your assertion of getting rich off high oil prices is debunked.

You continue to project your hatred of "Republicans" onto a situation where there is no relevance to the discussion.

It's curious, as opposed to your foolish assertions, that the oil companies were drilling and extracting domestically and we were energy independent, until the Biden administration threatened and then immediately did shut down every bit of domestic production they could affect.

You wonder why your posts have very little traction - they are nonsense, fueled by dishonest sources and your extreme, deep bias against anything that could remotely be associated with Trump or Republicans.

Please refer back to the self examination suggestion - you need it badly.

“ Foolish, Nonsense , biased, and my posts have no traction says scook”
And telling me what I “ need badly” says scook.

Wow you’re on fire today professor .
Try to calm down .

oteps 04-19-2022 04:31 PM

dropped sharply? U mean $.15?
rebounded? up $2.80?

scook 04-19-2022 04:37 PM

Try to calm down and read the post with an effort to understand what it says. It would be refreshing to have you actually respond to what anyone posts in a thoughtful way.

bgreene 04-19-2022 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 249004)
Try to calm down and read the post with an effort to understand what it says. It would be refreshing to have you actually respond to what anyone posts in a thoughtful way.

Sooooo condescending this scook.

1. I did read your post and I understand it
2. I disagree with what you posted.

Ok ? So have a nice Washington State Apple and have a nice evening

scook 04-19-2022 07:25 PM

Yes, using one of your favorite phrases (one that you just used in this thread) does sound condescending. That is your standard practice.

You disagree, but don't provide any direct response as to why, even when confronted with facts that contradict your narrative.

It's sad - when you're talking about fishing, the weather or nature (in a non-political way), you're an interesting and reasonable guy.

bgreene 04-20-2022 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 249006)
Yes, using one of your favorite phrases (one that you just used in this thread) does sound condescending. That is your standard practice.

You disagree, but don't provide any direct response as to why, even when confronted with facts that contradict your narrative.

It's sad - when you're talking about fishing, the weather or nature (in a non-political way), you're an interesting and reasonable guy.

Or…….your just can’t handle the truth about trump and what happened at our Capitol.
Yup .

scook 04-20-2022 05:44 AM

Classic bgreene - no mention of the capitol in at least this part of this thread, but you need to deny the truth so badly and have no response to what is being talked about that you completely change the subject to something completely irrelevant.

And of course, you have to throw in one of your standard pejorative infantile Trump related, also completely false and irrelevant little slanders. You are so far off the rails in so many ways that it’s hard to imagine you finding your way back. You’re certainly not going the right direction with this nonsense.

bgreene 04-20-2022 09:16 AM

Scook - for the benefit of all on this site , personal insults being toned down .
Suggest that applies to you too .

Big Oil is this thread topic — and the hypocrisy that they support the Republican Party with huge contributions, while making HUGE profit with high fuel prices — but blaming Dems .
Big oil LOVES high gas prices !!!
And YOU’RE paying for it - the JOKES on all of us

scook 04-20-2022 09:59 AM

Well then, you should probably tone down your insulting pejorative responses and stick to the thread topic, instead of injecting the capitol where it has no relevance.

It's hard to find any hypocrisy in oil companies supporting the party that is generally more business friendly and not, as opposed to the democrats, working hard to destroy their industry. The directors, and by extension the management of all companies have a fiduciary duty to work in the interests of their shareholders, many of whom are pension funds that retired, hard working people rely on for income.

Gas prices are no joke and are largely caused by the Biden administration doing it's absolute best to shut down our domestic energy production, taking us from energy independence to groveling to our sworn enemies for oil.

To my recollection, you have never made any direct response to repeated reminders that Biden said he would, and then did shut down every bit of our energy production that he could affect.

You are the slinger of insults, I observe and comment on your outrageous behavior.

bgreene 04-20-2022 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 249037)
Well then, you should probably tone down your insulting pejorative responses and stick to the thread topic, instead of injecting the capitol where it has no relevance.

It's hard to find any hypocrisy in oil companies supporting the party that is generally more business friendly and not, as opposed to the democrats, working hard to destroy their industry. The directors, and by extension the management of all companies have a fiduciary duty to work in the interests of their shareholders, many of whom are pension funds that retired, hard working people rely on for income.

Gas prices are no joke and are largely caused by the Biden administration doing it's absolute best to shut down our domestic energy production, taking us from energy independence to groveling to our sworn enemies for oil.

To my recollection, you have never made any direct response to repeated reminders that Biden said he would, and then did shut down every bit of our energy production that he could affect.

You are the slinger of insults, I observe and comment on your outrageous behavior.

“ but but your honor I’m innocent “
Says scook
Bammm - down goes the Judges gavel- while saying “ take this excuse making phony away “
Next case !!!!

scook 04-20-2022 12:17 PM

That would be a dishonest liberal judge, or one with an IQ less than his hat size, as you continue to avoid anything like honest conversation.

bgreene 04-20-2022 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 249050)
That would be a dishonest liberal judge, or one with an IQ less than his hat size, as you continue to avoid anything like honest conversation.

Big Republican donating OIL Companies LOVE charging scook $ 4 per gallon for gasoline, and then blaming the Democrats ! They'd like to charge you $ 5 per gallon !!

Hahahaha pump that gas scook, pump !!!

scook 04-20-2022 06:29 PM

It's already $5.00+ here, and it's clearly Biden's fault for shutting down our energy independence.

Democrats LOVE high energy costs in pursuit of killing off the fossil fuel industry, while having no cogent plan for transitioning to renewables. Of course the fact that this is a huge form of punishing taxation of the poor is of no consequence to the climate ideologues who get nice fat subsidies from us, the taxpayers, to buy electric cars and don't really care about the people they pretend to represent.

Your thinking on these issues is so simplistic and bias driven that you have no idea what you're talking about. Of course that doesn't quell your snarky, disrespectful, arrogant jackassery.

bgreene 04-20-2022 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 249064)
It's already $5.00+ here, and it's clearly Biden's fault for shutting down our energy independence.

Democrats LOVE high energy costs in pursuit of killing off the fossil fuel industry, while having no cogent plan for transitioning to renewables. Of course the fact that this is a huge form of punishing taxation of the poor is of no consequence to the climate ideologues who get nice fat subsidies from us, the taxpayers, to buy electric cars and don't really care about the people they pretend to represent.

Your thinking on these issues is so simplistic and bias driven that you have no idea what you're talking about. Of course that doesn't quell your snarky, disrespectful, arrogant jackassery.

No cursing please - we frown upon that on this nice site .

Have an apple

scook 04-21-2022 12:04 AM

If you think “jackassery” is cursing, you are too ignorant to go outdoors without adult supervision, you’re just making another clumsy, infantile attempt at arrogant condescension - you should remember that your phony “opinions” aren’t respected here, so they’re not effective. They just make you look more phony and foolish.

bgreene 04-21-2022 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 249070)
If you think “jackassery” is cursing, you are too ignorant to go outdoors without adult supervision, you’re just making another clumsy, infantile attempt at arrogant condescension - you should remember that your phony “opinions” aren’t respected here, so they’re not effective. They just make you look more phony and foolish.

Please refrain from personal insults and temper tantrums.
Reminder number 3,476.

And my opinions aren’t phony- they’re my opinions.
The facts I posts are also accurate.

scook 04-21-2022 12:23 PM

Facts are by definition accurate, you just don't often post them and when you do, usually interpret them in some absurd way that supports you far left, biased narrative.

You must think your snarky attempts as insults are cute or clever - I don't think your are joined in that opinion by anyone else here. They are read as disingenuous and often just plain dishonest.

Pipe_Dream 04-21-2022 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249072)
Please refrain from personal insults

Those weren't insults, they were facts.

bgreene 05-09-2022 05:25 AM

The FACTS on why gas prices have surged.
This link is NOT political and includes ALL reasons


https://www.kiplinger.com/personal-f...still-going-up

scook 05-09-2022 08:30 AM

It appears to be reasonably apolitical, and cites Biden’s policy direction to eliminate the fossil duel industry as one of three factors supporting high prices.

The Keystone pipeline alone, would probably make significant difference in fuel costs. Much like supporting the killing of innocent babies, it’s clear that the left doesn’t care about punishing low to moderate income people with unaffordable energy pricing.

bgreene 05-09-2022 03:11 PM

Big oil - laughing all the way to their banks - because they know theyre increasing prices and blame going to Dems

But the jokes on you scook - every time you fill up, big oil laughs

scook 05-09-2022 05:28 PM

Right where a good part of the blame should go, and rather than laughing, they're probably smiling that their shareholders aren't losing money like they did when the pandemic shut off a huge amount of travel.

Your lack of understanding and gleeful, childish posts don't speak well of your intellect.

bgreene 05-09-2022 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 249669)
Right where a good part of the blame should go, and rather than laughing, they're probably smiling that their shareholders aren't losing money like they did when the pandemic shut off a huge amount of travel.

Your lack of understanding and gleeful, childish posts don't speak well of your intellect.

Your non stop insults and denials of the truth speaks volumes of your LACK of character… “scook” .

scook 05-10-2022 12:03 AM

You’re going around the bend with that one. If you’re too ignorant to understand simple, honest explanations, or too biased to acknowledge them, you should at least have the sense to keep your mouth shut with that kind dishonest accusation. I’m not lacking in character and you’re a despicable liar to suggest it.

bgreene 05-10-2022 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 249676)
You’re going around the bend with that one. If you’re too ignorant to understand simple, honest explanations, or too biased to acknowledge them, you should at least have the sense to keep your mouth shut with that kind dishonest accusation. I’m not lacking in character and you’re a despicable liar to suggest it.

Since you write so many insults scook - you shouldnt be surprised to receive one in return.
“ People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw rocks “

steplift20 05-10-2022 07:04 AM

Biden is great , inflation is under control, gas prices are at rock bottom salarys are way up the border is secure covid is gone Biden is great But Bgreene what the hell are you doing? Selling your boat? Are you crazy ? Keep her and post pictures of that gem cmon Greene don't sell her
Trump will be back and bring down gas prices I hope.

bgreene 05-10-2022 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steplift20 (Post 249685)
Biden is great , inflation is under control, gas prices are at rock bottom salarys are way up the border is secure covid is gone Biden is great But Bgreene what the hell are you doing? Selling your boat? Are you crazy ? Keep her and post pictures of that gem cmon Greene don't sell her
Trump will be back and bring down gas prices I hope.

1. Bidens not responsible for the global inflation .
2. Trump wants to be dictator -he lies continually, and yes he may return knowing all he has to do is get gas prices down and you people will allow him to do whatever he wants.

3. My boat ? Yes it’s for sale, but I’m still fishing .

scook 05-10-2022 01:39 PM

A comment about selling the boat. You may have reasons that make my comments not apply to your situation, but my son and I were talking about possible, pretty negative economic scenarios and agreed that holding onto hard assets was probably a pretty good hedge.

Tools you can use to make things that become hard to get or to fix things (if you’re inclined that way), a boat to go fishing in, your vehicle in good repair, things like that could be pretty important if things escalate (short of nuclear war) with Russia, China, etc. You don’t have to be an alarmist or extreme pepper to see the risk of a time when things may be difficult to source. My boat isn’t in anything like the condition of yours, but I’m holding onto it and looking to get it solid and reliable.

Just something to consider. You obviously enjoy fishing and being outdoors.

bgreene 05-10-2022 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook (Post 249693)
A comment about selling the boat. You may have reasons that make my comments not apply to your situation, but my son and I were talking about possible, pretty negative economic scenarios and agreed that holding onto hard assets was probably a pretty good hedge.

Tools you can use to make things that become hard to get or to fix things (if you’re inclined that way), a boat to go fishing in, your vehicle in good repair, things like that could be pretty important if things escalate (short of nuclear war) with Russia, China, etc. You don’t have to be an alarmist or extreme pepper to see the risk of a time when things may be difficult to source. My boat isn’t in anything like the condition of yours, but I’m holding onto it and looking to get it solid and reliable.

Just something to consider. You obviously enjoy fishing and being outdoors.

Discussions such as boats best on other forum

scook 05-10-2022 05:56 PM

Well you mentioned it was still for sale - didn't seem inappropriate to make the comment. If you're interested in any more discussion on the subject, go ahead and make a post and I'll have a look.

bgreene 05-11-2022 07:50 PM

Big Oil - Republican Base - making a fortune on these high fuel prices while “ Dems “ take the blame.

They’re laughing all the way to the bank !!

Destroyer 05-11-2022 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249722)
Big Oil - Republican Base - making a fortune on these high fuel prices while “ Dems “ take the blame.

They’re laughing all the way to the bank !!

Yep... and WHO gave them the huge profits? Why, the Dems under Biden of course. It was Biden on day one of his reign that gas prices started their climb. Biden that shut down drilling is some areas, Biden that made permitting processes almost impossible for small companies to stay in business. but yes, of course blame big oil. Some people will swallow any lie told to them by the Dems...

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bgreene 05-12-2022 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249734)
Yep... and WHO gave them the huge profits? Why, the Dems under Biden of course. It was Biden on day one of his reign that gas prices started their climb. Biden that shut down drilling is some areas, Biden that made permitting processes almost impossible for small companies to stay in business. but yes, of course blame big oil. Some people will swallow any lie told to them by the Dems...

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And Republican big oil is laughing all the way to the bank !

Pipe_Dream 05-12-2022 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249742)
And Republican big oil is laughing all the way to the bank !

Are they still laughing?

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1524562069776916480

Pipe_Dream 05-12-2022 02:40 PM

US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says Democrats will next week present a bill on gasoline price gouging. The bill will enable the president to issue emergency declaration making it illegal to increase the price of gasoline. "Price gouging needs to be stopped."

What will happen to the supply when price controls make it impossible to drill profitably?


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