get one of those kids harness that you see the families use when they go to Walmart, hook it to one of your heavier rods. You can keep him in check and go kid fishing all at the same time, PS, don't tell your wife where the idea came from, better yet, don't let her see the fishing rod:zip:

I've got a 30 foot dog leash I keep threatening to hook to him. Then I can just drag him wherever I want him to go. I have thought of the fishing rod idea before, she didn't like it.

That was quite a night you had at the ER Ferm...seems like your Dr. who did the knee work would have given you a number to call if you had any problems from the surgery...would have saved you some misery.

Praying for speedy healing for you...and for your boy to be good for you.

He was in surgery at the time, so his assistant told me to go to that hospitals ER. Now the real fun begins, fighting with hospitals and insurance companies. The hospital hasn't submitted the invoices for the surgery on the 12, so my insurance is kicking everything back on me saying my $1500 copay hasn't been met. The real kicker is I paid the hospital $750 of it already(because I didn't have the full $1500 at the time), and the insurance company doesn't show it because it hasn't been submitted yet. I hate dealing with this crap, sure would have been nice to have gotten some healthcare reform to deal with this sh!t!

So somebody explain to me how obamacare fixed ANYTHING with healthcare? Somebody explain to me why a same day surgery costs over $67K for JUST THE HOSPITAL! That's not counting the surgeon, or anesthesia, JUST THEM! Or why an overnight stay where they almost killed me cost $4K? Sure hoping I can get this all worked out and covered under the single copay like they told me it would be.

I thought it was bad before when it cost $28K in 02 to the hospital for replacing the rod in my leg which was a LONGER surgery with an overnight stay in the hospital. Once everything is added in I bet this BASIC procedure will cost close to $100K which is what 8 days in intensive care, the hospital, and 2 emergency surgeries cost me back in 01 when the accident happened.

Ferm, consider yourself lucky. In April my mom was admitted to the hospital for an intestinal blockage. She was there for a total of 10 days, during which time they took a healthy, alert, productive 95 year old woman and turned her into a vegetable that on the tenth day we had to remove from life support and watch die. And for that magnificent display of complete sophomoric ineptitude we had to pay $248,000 for just the hospital bill, not counting the bills from the doctor that prescribed the wrong meds that led to her death or a bunch of other bills. So count yourself lucky my brother, You came out of it alive, despite their best efforts.

Damn Destroyer, that's awful, sorry to hear.

Whether I had insurance or not I'd be tempted to tell them to stick it up their *** on the quarter mil.

Not to mention the dumbass doctor.

That's right along the lines of my overnight stay for the allergic reaction. If they had had there way, they would have killed me switching me around on blood pressure meds.

I hear you. My wife is relegated to bedrest due to a bulging disk in her back. Epidural is the next step in her treatment process and it is still a week away due to the log jam of patients and so few doctors. Healthcare isn't close to being better than it was before O-care. The out of pocket with good coverage is mind boggling. Timing is everything Ferm.
We deductible out 9 days ago on 12/31 and back to zero on 1/1. I have literally shelled out in excess of what the entire total should have been to this point. Why would a doctors office visit cost $330.00? I can go to the walk-in clinic and see a doctor that does not accept any form of healthcare insurance and be in and out faster than I can get checked in at our normal, insurance accepting Clinic. The cost is $60 including a broad-spectrum antibiotic to help me kick this sinus infection.
Destroyer, for the utter tragedy you suffered through, I am sorry. No words really. IDK why but my Hospital stays have gone without a hitch. Very competent care IMO.

Hope your healiing well and fast!!

My 6 weeks are up, so I'm back on my own 2 feet again walking. Either I don't remember how much fun it was for the first few steps, or else it hurts worse this time. It was like a combination of stepping on a board filled with nails, the nails are connected to 220 volts and shocking me, along with a blow torch going up the sides of my leg. BUT I am walking again. now I have 6 weeks of very light duty ahaead of me, and then hopefully back to somewhat normal duty.

Good, if it didn't hurt you wouldn't know you were still alive. LOL Hang in there..

One day at a time, one step at a time. The longest journey starts with a single step. You'll get there. :beer:

prayers for a speedy recovery and that this time it was a permanent fix

Herezs to hopeing you cont iue to get better!!:pray2:

Take it easy Ferm, you'll get there.

glad to hear your walking again , it will get better, just dont push yourself too much at first

Good for you, ferm!

And now for the GOOD news, getting the totals together from the insurance company and it looks like I will owe $2250 for this ordeal. Turns out our policy last year no longer counted copays towards our deductable, so I have to pay copays on top of the $1500 deductable along with 10%. FUN FUN. Guess I need to look on the bright side as our deductable is now $5500 + 20% with a higher copay(thanks obamacare).

But on the bright side maybe this will take your pain away

good thing about payin' out all that money, take some of the pain away.

"If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rack_Obama.jpg

NOT FUNNY!

The part that is getting me is my 2nd trip for the rash is going to end up costing me almost $650. $650 for what the surgeons assistant said was unnecesary. I should have been sent home, told to take benadryl, and a shower(her words exactly). Yet the hospital kept me overnight and pumped me full of crap so they could run up a bill. That's the part that is pissing me off. I haven't worked in months now, money is tight, and now I have to shell out an extra $650 for something I shouldn't have even been admitted for.

Wasn't intending to be funny at all Ferm. The whole ball of wax is BS.

I feel for you and your family.

No problem, I knew what you meant by it. I was just pointing out the liar in chief's statement AINT FUNNY! one bit about how we could keep our plans. If we still had the plan from 3 years ago like my wife had this would have been a $500 copay, and if we had the plan from 08(bo-AKA before obama), it would have been $250 and we would be paying 1/3rd every month for insurance as we are now. This whole situation just sucks, thanks commander and thief for the UNaffordable care act.

Ferm, you "might" want to talk to the hospital, and hint that a lawsuit for a misdiagnosis might be in the offing unless they drop that bill for the $650. When my mom was in the hospital, and died as a result of their misdiagnosis, we got a bill for over $240,000 from them. Insurance paid most of it, but there were still several thousands of dollars that we (her family) were supposed to pay. I spoke to their billing dept, explained the situation and let drop the fact that we were thinking of instituting a lawsuit. Suddenly they got real co-operative, told us to not worry about the money and they hoped that we were happy with the care my mom received.

My point is that they just might back off if you let it be known how truly f**ked up their "care" was, and how pissed off you are about it. Hey, you never know...

Hard to put a price tag on feling good.
 

It is crazy how you can get buried in the numbers, Fa$T
Bright side is you don't have to pay for 100% of all the cost or the screwups for that matter, just a portion. The fact is, BO or After, The average surgical procedure with a hospital stay will fully test the finances of the average family. That part hasn't changed, if anything it may be worse AO depending on how you got shuffled..Because Nothing was done to control the costs.. The only thing that really changed is who pays what share.. I could go on forever..

ON THE BRIGHT SIDE
As others have pointed out.. With any luck you will get to feeling better whereas before you couldn't do much for the pain.

I'm definately calling the hospital tommorrow because I was admitted on a wound re eval, but that isn't how they billed it. I'm probably going to call the attorney that handled my lawsuit from the wreck that caused all of this and see if maybe he could make a phone call for me and take care of this. He helped me out like this on another matter before, so maybe he will do it again. It's hard to find GOOD attorneys who actually help you out, and he went above and beyond as well as waved alot of fees from my case before.

I wonder what it would take to actually organize a class action suit against Obastard

What happened to the country I grew up in (God help us all)

Just got back from the Dr today, and he said all is healing properly and looks good. But I have 2 more months of walking only restriction on it.

Good to hear a little good news for a change. Hang in there Ferm!

Figured I would update this thread as well. My hip never went back to like it was before I tore it up before I had surgery. It had gotten better until my cardiologist put me on a new med to get my BP down, but the new med has a water pill in it which causes dehydration and that causes joint problems. So for the last few months it has been bothering me quite a bit, then last Tuesday I took my son to the park to play, and I had to grab him to keep him from falling off the walkway and into a concrete lined ditch. In doing so something in my hip popped LOUDLY, and I'm about 99% certain I tore something in it again. I can't get back to the ortho doc until June 8th, so I have to tough it out until then. Not looking forward to being possibly laid up while I have a newborn. So when it rains, it pours. Right now percocet and soma are getting me by until I can get back into the docs, and my stomach is already telling me no more(I've got ulcers and a hole in it from taking so many pills in the past because of all of my problems from my wreck in 2001).

Try and hang tough Ferm, I hope things get better for you my friend

Hang in there man, hate to hear you got more troubles.

Seen the doc today, and now I'm waiting on approva from my insurance for the special MRI he ordered. He said something about he thinks the gap in my hip has closed up, and is pretty sure something is torn in it as I have ALOT of swelling in my groin area right now. So the waiting game for my insurance, then to get into get an MRI is on. Will probably be July before I have it done as my copay right now is $350, but July 1st my plan changes and will cost me $200 to have it done.

Maybe the swelling in the groin area has something to do with Mrs. Ferm having those kids? J/K!!

Hope things go good for you Ferm. Insurance sucks, but I guess not as bad as no insurance.

Picked up a 1995 150 hp Johnson Ocean Runner I've thought about bringing to you to work your magic.

Well my worst fear was confirmed today. Theres no explanation for why my hip is hurting so bad. He said I have alot of scar tissue in it surrounding the joint, and the images showed some thinning of the cartilage in the joint, but no real explanation for why I'm in so much pain, the joint popping, or why I'm getting so many spasms. So now I get to start steroids, cortizone injections, and a topical pain cream to try and get the swelling down, and see if it can get back to tolerable at least. I was actually hoping the MRI would show a tear or something they could easily fix, but no such luck. I knew the day would come when my youth would catch up to me, and it looks liek that time has come. if they can't help me soon, I'll be back on crutches again fro mthe looks of it. Theres not much they can do for me with pain management with my stomach problems, so it's just sort of hope for the best now.Well my worst fear was confirmed today. Theres no explanation for why my hip is hurting so bad. He said I have alot of scar tissue in it surrounding the joint, and the images showed some thinning of the cartilage in the joint, but no real explanation for why I'm in so much pain, the joint popping, or why I'm getting so many spasms. So now I get to start steroids, cortizone injections, and a topical pain cream to try and get the swelling down, and see if it can get back to tolerable at least. I was actually hoping the MRI would show a tear or something they could easily fix, but no such luck. I knew the day would come when my youth would catch up to me, and it looks liek that time has come. if they can't help me soon, I'll be back on crutches again fro mthe looks of it. Theres not much they can do for me with pain management with my stomach problems, so it's just sort of hope for the best now.

Hate hearing that Ferm, especially now with you and the missus having all the youngins.

My wife said something today about possibly having to put our oldest in day care because even on days I don't do anything I'm in tears come bedtime. Started my steroids today, and forgot how horrible they taste, and how much they upset my stomach. Been breathing fire and acid all day long.