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msbhammer 05-29-2006 07:49 PM

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Had it apart again last night. All cleaned up on the tube. Bunch of brown crap came out. The tube arm moves really well. I did move the control arm to the back hole. It does make the engine turn more, but still should turn another 2 inchs more.
I have a 11" control arm. What I now need is a 13 inch control arm. Searched E-Bay with no luck. Can only find 11" arms.
I hear these arms are over hundred bucks. Trying to get a used one.
Wanna take her out bad !!.
Picked up the new vhs radio today as well. This radio has ACC Cable ??????
What the heck is that. I'm guess it might be for a gps location device whenever you Talk ????

Skools Out 05-29-2006 08:15 PM

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The part listed on ebay will not fix your problem nor work on the steering set up you have unless you buy a new dual steering cable box and cables.

reelapeelin 05-29-2006 08:21 PM

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Is the ACC cable a way to listen to college basketball ... ::) ...just kiddin'... ;) :D :D...

msbhammer 05-29-2006 09:09 PM

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LOL, ;D
So ... was I right, any idea ??? gps stuff I guess ?

reelapeelin 05-29-2006 10:45 PM

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What does the owners manual say 'bout the ACC cable?...most likely is GPS interface...

msbhammer 05-30-2006 01:21 AM

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Yep, thats what it is for. Gps interface along with exsternal speakers.

Blue_Runner 05-30-2006 10:54 AM

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Can you drill a new hole back even farther?

I think the arm at the heart of your turning problem. Its not frozen or you wouldn't be able to get full range when the arm is unhooked.

Find a longer arm, or drill a new hole for the current arm if possible. Keep us posted.

Blue

bigshrimpin 05-30-2006 03:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Skools Out
The part listed on ebay will not fix your problem nor work on the steering set up you have unless you buy a new dual steering cable box and cables.


Skools - How do you figure? The Blown Mercury 150 XR2 I pulled off a Boston Whaler . . . had this very setup. The previous owner was running a single cable through the front mount tube.

Stinky_Hooker 05-30-2006 05:13 PM

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Hammer, I love you man, but you have some of the most "unique" boating problems and the longest threads because of it. ::)

Paint it or not? Lets take 42 pages to see......

Steering not working....arm to short??

Not sure, lets take 85 pages and talk about it.


You have GOT to be in upper level management for a living!! :D



J/K Man!! I love you Hammer. ;D

Skools Out 05-30-2006 05:21 PM

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yeah it would work that way but, if the steering tube is bad then don't bandaid it with a twin steering tube. Fix it once fix it right with a new steering tube. I was saying he doesn't have twin cable set up so it will not work properly on his boat unless he wants to half way do the job lol.

bigshrimpin 05-30-2006 05:43 PM

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Skool's I hear you, but the guy with the whaler had been running his XR2 that way since 1987. Hynautic also made a K-6 cylinder that bolts right on the front. This system has the same 4 bolts holding the ram. The nice part is that kit is that it makes mechanical steering adjustable and serviceable (w/o pulling the motor). Fix it once and fix it right

http://www.charment.com/images/k_6.jpg

;)

Blue_Runner 05-30-2006 06:06 PM

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Look out people - we have a battle of wits going on here!!

reelapeelin 05-30-2006 06:19 PM

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Battle of the TITANS!!!...anybody wanna make odds?...

Skools Out 05-30-2006 07:33 PM

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i do like the not removing the motor part for service part ;D. OMC makes one too. I've heard of them coming loose from the motor and loosing all steering ???.

msbhammer 05-31-2006 12:23 AM

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Well, this thread might take 100 pages. ;D ;D
Went out today and hit three boat repair shops and found that the steering arm that I have is a standard size. I did find one that was one inch longer. But for $150.00 NO WAY !!
So I figured it must be something with the steering, greese dried up or something. So where the black Teleflex steering mounts to the tube...if thats what you call it ??, well on the teleflex cable, there is a big silver nut, well in that nut is a pressure fitting waher that I didnt know was there. Well I broke the Mother Freaking thing today and now lost all my steering.
Dont know what to do know. E-Bay is looking good right about now !!.

Skools Out 05-31-2006 12:28 AM

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how long is your steering arm again? will a johnson / evinrude work? i have several laying around i'll just have to find them.

Skools Out 05-31-2006 12:31 AM

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look here is this long enough?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercu...QQcmdZViewItem

http://i4.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/9e/27/05_1_b.JPG

Skools Out 05-31-2006 12:33 AM

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here's an OMC steering arm email ask him and see if it's longer

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OMC-O...QQcmdZViewItem

http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/07/25/0a/01_1.JPG

Skools Out 05-31-2006 12:35 AM

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super long looking steering arm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Outbo...QQcmdZViewItem

http://i19.ebayimg.com/02/i/07/3d/70/ab_1.JPG

msbhammer 05-31-2006 12:53 AM

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Damm, they do look longer. I shot both of them questions on the lenght. Thanks Bro ! ;)

msbhammer 05-31-2006 01:31 AM

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:-* :-* :-* :-*
Yo Stink.
I love you To Man !! ;)
I'm all new with boating thing. Damm, and I thought diving was costing me money. Non stop with boat repairs and questions. Man, I just wanna go diving !!

reelapeelin 05-31-2006 09:50 AM

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Hammer...what broke?...can you photo?...FORGET E-Bay...at least for what you were thinkin' :o ...you've come too far to ''bail-out'' now... ;)...

All I started out wantin' to do was catch a fish...

msbhammer 05-31-2006 01:07 PM

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Reel,
I shoot a few photos this afterrnoon. I took my meds this morning. Feeling better, so I put the can of gas and matches down. ;D :o :o

Blue_Runner 05-31-2006 01:30 PM

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Hammer, look at the bright side - at least it didn't break out on the water 10 miles out.

msbhammer 05-31-2006 08:40 PM

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Yanked out the steering and install a new cable.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC01787.jpg

msbhammer 05-31-2006 08:41 PM

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Dont know if this is normal or not. Old crap inside the tube.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/DSC01788.jpg

macojoe 05-31-2006 09:29 PM

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Thats normal for a unmaintained sterring!! Thats a good pic to tell you how not to do it!!

I hope you cleaned well and remed the tube out to get it clean!!

bigshrimpin 05-31-2006 09:59 PM

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Nice dry caked on grease!!! I dunno the best way to clean that out . . . what I did before I installed hydraulic steering was to get a wire brush (Ace Hardware pipe cleaner). I broke off the loop handle end off the pipe cleaner and stuck it into a power drill. It worked pretty well.

There's so much crap in that hole you'll be at it for a while. Put an apron on your v20 before you get busy with the wire brush.

http://www.spectrumsurgical.com/imag...tiffbrush2.jpg

msbhammer 05-31-2006 10:04 PM

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Been spaying and scooping as much out as possible. This might sound stupid, but what about using a snake drain ?? Can I damage something inside that I dont know that is there. Like the pressure washer fitting that I broke yesturday. >:(

bigshrimpin 05-31-2006 10:07 PM

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MSB it's just a straight heavy duty steel tube. The big nut on the end has a rubber seal . . . but your's is shot anyway. It's just a rubber o-ring (you can buy at any hardware store). You might as well try everything you think will work. Attack from both sides!!

macojoe 05-31-2006 10:40 PM

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wire pipe cleaner works great!! Just keep spraying WD40, PB Blaster what ever you got, and then mix all the thinner and chemicals :o you have till you have it clean!!

Its going to take time but it will come out, I even doubled the pipe cleaners to make it bigger and really reamed it good.

Then grease the $hit out of it and your good to go!!

To bad you have to move the mor, I pull my cable every fall clean and wrp in plastic for winter, spring I clean the tube, grease and start over, Hvae never had a bad steering again!


parishht 05-31-2006 11:11 PM

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:-/

Guess what Hammer,
I went to put the pirate ship into the Broadkill and I don't know what it is about
De. and V20's, but I am having the same issue with my steering.
Only difference is that mine looks like the rotating tip broke off the cable.

Anyway, how much was a new cable, yours looks like mine.

Have you tried the Irish Eyes in Milton yet?
Just as good as the original, but no traffic to fight.

msbhammer 05-31-2006 11:12 PM

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Damm, Mac. You pull the cable every year. Hell, I pull the cable once for the first time and break it ! >:( >:( >:(
Back in the house. Been spaying the hell out of it. Tried using a drain snake. Crap is so hard on the inside, cant get it through. Will keep knocking away at it till its right.

msbhammer 05-31-2006 11:34 PM

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Parissh:
Paid 169.00, but I dont know if I'll be getting anything else yet or not. Not sure if I should find a new tube, or just clean mine up really well and leave it the hell alone and never think I can fix something. ;D
Your V-20 in is the Broadkill. Hell your just a few miles north of me ;D
Damm, I have somebody near by who can tow me in NOW ;D
Nah, I havent been to the Irish Eyes in Milton yet.
The one in Lewes is within Stumbling and staggering distance to my house. LOL !! ;)

macojoe 06-01-2006 12:22 AM

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I had a budy cork the ends with rubber corks, any hardware store have them.

then drilled a hole at the top of one cork, filled tube with Navel Jelly, let sit 24 hours, said it was as clean as a whistel after that!!

I like the idea! I am sure anything will work if left to sit and soften long anough?

Skools Out 06-01-2006 12:31 AM

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$169.00 yikes thought you only got a cable not the whole store. What length is the one youbought?

look here

http://www.boatfix.com/bykeywordnew2...amp;texttype=2

macojoe 06-01-2006 12:46 AM

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I replaced mine with complete system. The whole system is like the same price as the cable.

But I just have a regular steering system nothing special.

msbhammer 06-01-2006 01:01 AM

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YIKES !!, Damm West Marine. What a mark up I tell ta.
I new I was gonna pay more because I wanted it now, but I cant beat those prices. $hit might be going back hell. Cant work on till this weekend because I'm on daywork for the next two days anyway. Think I'll buy from this site, even with shipping I'll still be saving money.
Was hoping to getter done by Sunday. This Sunday is the Big 1-Year Wedding Anniverary for Lisa and I.
Wanted to relive that wedding night all over again on the water. :P :P :P

msbhammer 06-01-2006 01:16 AM

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Honey I love but, I love my boat and Diving. ;D

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ivewedding.jpg

Skools Out 06-01-2006 01:17 AM

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boatfix will have it to your door in 2 days or less usually ;D


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