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willy 07-27-2006 02:16 PM

Re: Motor Removal & Install
 
So whats the status on the install MJ how's it looking

macojoe 07-27-2006 10:11 PM

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Ok as stated above the peice is missing, but not the end of the world!!

I found a guy near me that would rebuild the starter I have, I took to him on Monday at 4 pm, he called Tuesday at 11 am and said its all set!!

It needed new brushes, spring and armature, cost me $125

I had my Daughter pic up for me as I was at the camper till today.

I just installed the starter and it turns just fine!!~

Now I will try to start tomorrow??




As for the next problem, the Oil Injection linkage rod has been disconnected and a part is missing??

BR says that the injection was fine when he used it, but there is no way it can work right now??

I think the mariner that did the repower for BR browed a few things they needed, Thinking the motr to be junk??

Well I am going to premix for the start, and order the part I need when I find the part name.

I am draging the camper home Monday and will have time to play with everything next week.

Skools Out 07-28-2006 01:33 AM

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yeah MJ Marina's are great for using parts off other peoples motors that you don't notice at first.

Blue_Runner 07-28-2006 11:46 AM

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Keep us posted on the crank up MJ.
Sorry about the injection thing, its been one thing after another.

One thing I don't understand though, is if this linkage rod is part of the motor, wouldn't my new motor have had one? Could it be part of the injection system rather than a part of the motor?

macojoe 07-28-2006 03:18 PM

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the injection rod comes from the Carbs to the injection pump.

When you give the boat gas it also moves the oil pump to give the proper oil.

Idle it gets 100:1 and at full throttle it gets 50:1

The rod is threaded on the end near the oil pump. there needs to be a peice that has a plastic gromet that pluges on to the pump.

Someone unscrwed that small piece.

I am going out there now to work on it. I try to get a pic for you.

macojoe 07-29-2006 03:10 PM

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Ok I worked on the motor yesterday and she fired right up!!

I did a decarb and added decarb to the gas, after the first decarb she was already running better!!
I did a 2nd decarb and she ran even better!!

Now I permixed the gas for now till I can get the part.

Hit the water today, she is idling way to low!! Had a hard time getting her started cause she was so low, and the high idle lever isn't working?? (another thing to fix) But got her going and off we went.

She ran nice and even all the way out of Hyannis and out to the open water.

I opened it upand she tookm off nice!!

But after just a short run she would not go over 10 knots??

I told CB the hole story and there is a few things we have to take care of, Idle, High Idle lever, and the shifter for the throttle is real hard and now this problem.

Also need to figure out were the wires go for the Tac?? The old book for the 175 shows were eveything goes, but the new book makes no mention of a Tac let alone were to hook the wires.

We here are a few pic's

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tac..._255.sized.jpg

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tac..._256.sized.jpg

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tac..._257.sized.jpg

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tac..._253.sized.jpg

Mac_Attack 07-29-2006 04:38 PM

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Nice to see you back on the water! Billy Mac ;D

TheTinMan 07-29-2006 05:47 PM

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ALL RIGHT!!! Just get them bugs worked out and your good to go! Congrats! :)

reelapeelin 07-29-2006 06:54 PM

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MJ, hope it's just a coil or somethin' easy...good luck w/ it ;) ...

chumbucket 07-30-2006 12:46 AM

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It's mechanical. I already helped MJ troubleshoot the problem via phone. I think there is a worn bushing or washer that's making the shoulder bolt on the throttle lever pivot point bottom out and bind the lever. As soon as he loosened that shoulder bolt a bit, the lever moved freely. Nothing serious. Just one more trip to Cape Cod and we'll have her purring. ;)

TheTinMan 07-30-2006 01:04 AM

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Shoulder bolt, uh huh, sure ::)

Probably got a tassle caught in there! :o :o :o ;D

reelapeelin 07-30-2006 10:12 AM

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CB, MJ sure is fortunate to have you around in times of crisis ;D ...hope he gave you a substantial Christmas gift last year for pullin' those big ol' Nortons of his outta the fire so often ;) ...glad it was something minor :D :D ...

macojoe 07-30-2006 10:34 AM

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You should have seen the wireing!!

The 94 is different then the 88, CB stared at the wire diagram for both, and after a bit of cofusion and a trip to get conectors, he cut all the wires at one time and then just started to crimp things toghter, looked like he did it every day of his life!!

Ok start it he says and it turned over first shot!! I would have never got that in a million years!!

Yes with out CB, I be in a world of hurt right now!!

Thanks CB, I love you :-*



There I said it in public!! Now can I have the $50 bucks??? *;)


chumbucket 07-30-2006 10:45 AM

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:-* No! >:(

bigshrimpin 07-30-2006 02:58 PM

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Good to see you guys on the water!!! ;D in case the bushing doesn't fix the problem . . . 703 control boxes are available from Marine Connection Liquadators for $99 + shipping. Sometimes my old Yamaha would go into RPM reduction mode. It would shake violently and you couldn't crack 2500rpm. A loose battery connection was always the culprit . . . I ended up getting a lock washer.


Reel - I always though of CB as MJ's Guardian Angel.

charlie_the_tuna 07-31-2006 01:54 AM

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didnt see no fish pictures... takin a break?

macojoe 08-01-2006 12:08 AM

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ok the bushing that we speak of is on the motor end not the controll box.
Its the to levers tall and short that move the timeing advance and throttle.
Thye bolt in the center is the bolt and bushings that we are speaking of.



And no fish pic's for that trip, it was just a boat try out to see if it needed anything.
Did take rods and my buddy tryed, but I live in a fish poor area!!
I have to go to Chatam or Falmouth to catch fish, none in the midcape.


reelapeelin 08-01-2006 01:34 PM

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BS, it's a good thing he's got a guardian angel in CB...he's sittin' up there on Cape FREAKIN' Cod and talkin' about livin' in a "fish poor" area...boy, my ol' heart just BREAKS
;) ::) :-* :-*...

msbhammer 08-01-2006 03:10 PM

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Its good to have friends near by. I feel the same whemn it comes to wiring. Should I try adding in the new ignition switch to the wires and the wires to the the motor or have someone else to do it so I can blame them ;D ;D
Hey...Airslot and Parish are near me. Yo Guys, get your butts over here and get to work. I;ll hold the garden hose and spray ya a few times if you start to pass out due to the heat wave. ;D ;D ;D ;D :-*

chumbucket 08-01-2006 04:44 PM

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Well, if you lived closer, I'd be over to help you out. Gotta take care of Cupcake (MJ) first though. ;D

macojoe 08-01-2006 06:32 PM

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Ha Ha Suckers!! He's all mine!! *;) :-* ;D

O ya I got the oil injection fitting today, waiting on a throttle fitting that was cracked also, will be here friday

msbhammer 08-01-2006 07:32 PM

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Yo Chum. I thought I was your little sweat cupcake :-* :-* :-* :-*

reelapeelin 08-02-2006 11:42 AM

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MJ=Cupcake...LMFAOFF ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D...

bigshrimpin 08-02-2006 07:46 PM

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Cupcake - How'd that boat run with the busted skeg?

Blue_Runner 08-07-2006 01:36 AM

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MJ, way to go, glad you made it to the water. It sounds like it might be the spark plugs?? It started doing that after I checked the compression with the fuel lines connected. Would run good for 15 minutes and then suddenly foul a plug. I figured my leaving the fuel lines connected while turning it over flooded it out pretty good and caused the fouling plugs. That scenario went on about 3 times, then on the 4 time out it ran good the whole time with a fresh set of plugs (the ones you said were the wrong plugs ;)). Ran good for 4 hours on that last trip which was 4th of July '05.

I think the problem can be licked, I just don't know why it would still be fouling plugs? Anybody got ideas?

chumbucket 08-07-2006 08:47 AM

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Blue, Check out the thread in General forums titled "The Final Chapter"............. :'( :'( :'(

reelapeelin 08-07-2006 09:54 AM

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For me, this whole chapter is a good example of why ya have a certified outboard tech check over a used outboard B4 ya buy...it's sure saved my butt B4...


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