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You have done allot sense the last pics you posted. I'm no expert but why can't you just check the wood by drilling in different sections and beef up what is all ready there. I'll come by one evening to check it out after work as I work in Greatbridge and I think your only about 15min. away. Whats there does not look that bad and if you could avoid removing the stringers I would. Nice hoist system you built. When I did mine we used a big tree limb and the first one broke when we had the inner liner about a foot or two out of the hull. Luckly the limb only broke and did not fall because that could have been dangerous as the limb was about 5' thick. It was hanging on by about an 1/8' of the limb.

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You have done allot sense the last pics you posted. I'm no expert but why can't you just check the wood by drilling in different sections and beef up what is all ready there. I'll come by one evening to check it out after work as I work in Greatbridge and I think your only about 15min. away. Whats there does not look that bad and if you could avoid removing the stringers I would. Nice hoist system you built. When I did mine we used a big tree limb and the first one broke when we had the inner liner about a foot or two out of the hull. Luckly the limb only broke and did not fall because that could have been dangerous as the limb was about 5' thick. It was hanging on by about an 1/8' of the limb.

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This is one of the things I'm not comfortable with because of lack of experience / knowledge. The stringers have delaminated and it was the guys who looked at the boat yesterday who said they were rotted as well. If was just rot, then I could do as MJ says, but what about the delamination part? Would it make more sense (or at least peice of mind) to replace the stringers given the repairs needed and that they are accessible (provided I can get it done right) or am I still better off trying to fix what I have? In front of the forward bulkhead the glass around the stringer is discolored from the foam that was in there trapping the water. Could that cause the bond between the glass for the stringer to be weakened?

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This is one of the things I'm not comfortable with because of lack of experience / knowledge. The stringers have delaminated and it was the guys who looked at the boat yesterday who said they were rotted as well. If was just rot, then I could do as MJ says, but what about the delamination part? Would it make more sense (or at least peice of mind) to replace the stringers given the repairs needed and that they are accessible (provided I can get it done right) or am I still better off trying to fix what I have? In front of the forward bulkhead the glass around the stringer is discolored from the foam that was in there trapping the water. Could that cause the bond between the glass for the stringer to be weakened?

Glassing Help for JeffX needed!!
 

the wood is there to strength the glass and shape it, I doubt that anyones is still glued to the hull?

So if you grind the bad glass and re-glass back, with new wood inside i bet you be fine?

I am not a glass man, but I redid my transom for the bracket and a few small things, But i think thats how I would attack it?

Keep asking and maybe stink and skools will get in, they are the glass man!!

No worry we will gt a plan and then you can get going! Bet it won't take as long as you think either! ;D

Glassing Help for JeffX needed!!
 

the wood is there to strength the glass and shape it, I doubt that anyones is still glued to the hull?

So if you grind the bad glass and re-glass back, with new wood inside i bet you be fine?

I am not a glass man, but I redid my transom for the bracket and a few small things, But i think thats how I would attack it?

Keep asking and maybe stink and skools will get in, they are the glass man!!

No worry we will gt a plan and then you can get going! Bet it won't take as long as you think either! ;D

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Someone on this site knew of a product that you can pour into the stringer that would do the trick. From what i read you could just shave off the top of the stringers exposing the insides. Clean out all the rotted wood and then fiberglass the seperated areas. Then fix any holes and places that the stuff would run out of. Then just mix it up and pour it in and that would be an easy rapair.

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Someone on this site knew of a product that you can pour into the stringer that would do the trick. From what i read you could just shave off the top of the stringers exposing the insides. Clean out all the rotted wood and then fiberglass the seperated areas. Then fix any holes and places that the stuff would run out of. Then just mix it up and pour it in and that would be an easy rapair.

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Seacast

"Seacast Pourable Transom mix replaces the rotten wood in boat transoms & stringers. It is stronger than wood and will never rot."

http://www.seawolfindustries.com/seacast.html

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Seacast

"Seacast Pourable Transom mix replaces the rotten wood in boat transoms & stringers. It is stronger than wood and will never rot."

http://www.seawolfindustries.com/seacast.html

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I posted this before and I like this book from WEST Marine,
I took the price tag off my copy, but I think it is less than $10

it is not that expensive and it gives a lot of good instructions:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...rglassbook.jpg

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I posted this before and I like this book from WEST Marine,
I took the price tag off my copy, but I think it is less than $10

it is not that expensive and it gives a lot of good instructions:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...rglassbook.jpg

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Funny thing about my house,
after we moved in, my wife did some research,
cause she knew her family was from the area,
and found that the house was built and lived in by a distant uncle.
Amazing how some things come full circle.

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Funny thing about my house,
after we moved in, my wife did some research,
cause she knew her family was from the area,
and found that the house was built and lived in by a distant uncle.
Amazing how some things come full circle.

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Thats the stuff and looks to be the answer to his problem. Also an easy fix.

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Thats the stuff and looks to be the answer to his problem. Also an easy fix.

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Jeff, lets get er done. You got a boat to fish out of, so lets get to work. Since your this far along, I'd just replace the stringers if there is any question.

3/4" plywood, ACX, would be as good a core material as you'll find. Your concern over twisting is very valid. I'm thinking that you could do one stringer at a time without the hull deforming on you. Look into prices at shopmaninc.com for epoxy prices. May as well look at 30 gallons. If you glass in that wood, she'll not rot in your liftime.

Good Luck, we are here as your support group.

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Jeff, lets get er done. You got a boat to fish out of, so lets get to work. Since your this far along, I'd just replace the stringers if there is any question.

3/4" plywood, ACX, would be as good a core material as you'll find. Your concern over twisting is very valid. I'm thinking that you could do one stringer at a time without the hull deforming on you. Look into prices at shopmaninc.com for epoxy prices. May as well look at 30 gallons. If you glass in that wood, she'll not rot in your liftime.

Good Luck, we are here as your support group.

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Hey Jeff, I live close to ya and would be happy to come by and give you some advice/help. I have done a similar rebuild. It was fun, a lot of work but I am sure you can do it and more than likely your workmanship the first time you try it will be 3 times better than the sloppy factory work. Also I may be able to help with materals.
Send me a message
Greg

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Hey Jeff, I live close to ya and would be happy to come by and give you some advice/help. I have done a similar rebuild. It was fun, a lot of work but I am sure you can do it and more than likely your workmanship the first time you try it will be 3 times better than the sloppy factory work. Also I may be able to help with materals.
Send me a message
Greg

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Buy BR's V20, Buy Randleman's engine, Keep your V20 for parts, an artificial reef, or a large flower pot! ;D

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Buy BR's V20, Buy Randleman's engine, Keep your V20 for parts, an artificial reef, or a large flower pot! ;D

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I could help some but I would need to be picked up and droped off. We will also need a couple of cases of beer and that will explain the need for the ride home. Pizza and a few dancers would also be a nice touch to go along with the beer because we will need something to do as the resin dries.

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I could help some but I would need to be picked up and droped off. We will also need a couple of cases of beer and that will explain the need for the ride home. Pizza and a few dancers would also be a nice touch to go along with the beer because we will need something to do as the resin dries.

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I'd call on Willy, he has the Super models. ;D

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I'd call on Willy, he has the Super models. ;D

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Like others have said..the worst part is over. Replacing wood and glass is easy....it's just messy. I'd consider using a two part foam underdeck to add strenght.

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Like others have said..the worst part is over. Replacing wood and glass is easy....it's just messy. I'd consider using a two part foam underdeck to add strenght.

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So whats the word/ you gonna keep her and keep going, or is it off t the chipper ???
I think you should keep going. ;)

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So whats the word/ you gonna keep her and keep going, or is it off t the chipper ???
I think you should keep going. ;)

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Hay Jeff, You may want to watch this rebuild as it is very similar to yours;


http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...mp;whichpage=1

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Hay Jeff, You may want to watch this rebuild as it is very similar to yours;


http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...mp;whichpage=1

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Thats a great job that guy is doing!! looks like he has thought everything out well!

Thanks pikfish, I enjoyed looking at that, Don';t want to do it but liked looking at it! ;)

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Thats a great job that guy is doing!! looks like he has thought everything out well!

Thanks pikfish, I enjoyed looking at that, Don';t want to do it but liked looking at it! ;)

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WOW, that was a great site to check out. Thanks for posting it. ;)

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WOW, that was a great site to check out. Thanks for posting it. ;)

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So is there any update to what your doing to your V. Maybe I've just missed the thread.

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So is there any update to what your doing to your V. Maybe I've just missed the thread.

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yeah, havent heard from you Jeff? ::)

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yeah, havent heard from you Jeff? ::)