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Bygracealone 05-22-2007 09:52 PM

Re: water pump/lower unit
 
Are you sure it's not a prostate problem? :P


tsubaki 05-22-2007 09:55 PM

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So far what I'm seeing there may not be a complete kit available, however the parts are except for the housing.
Sierra makes the parts for most waterpumps like Bendix makes most of the brakes for automobiles.
I'm trying to find the correct part(s) number(s) for your pump.

Sean 05-22-2007 09:55 PM

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not sure, but my wife keeps making me take these litle blue pills! :o

tsubaki 05-22-2007 09:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bygracealone
Are you sure it's not a prostate problem? *:P

;D ;D ;D

Sean 05-22-2007 09:56 PM

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Sierra, thats who Iboats and westmarine were reffering me to, but they are closed tonight.
:-/

Sean 05-22-2007 09:58 PM

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and the housing isn't really something that can "go wrong" right? I mean unless it rotts out. From the looks of most of the engine I am not to worried about that.

tsubaki 05-22-2007 10:07 PM

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Need a zip code

Sean 05-22-2007 10:11 PM

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02840

tsubaki 05-22-2007 10:14 PM

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Dealers possibly near you :-/
http://www.mercurypartsexpress.com/P...howDealers.asp
Well SOB I'll try again

tsubaki 05-22-2007 10:16 PM

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RICKS OUTBOARD MAR
105 POPES ISLAND
NEW BEDFORD, MA *02740

*SPICERS MARINA
93 MARSH RD
NOANK, CT *06340

CAPE MARINE
140 MACARTHUR BLVD
BOURNE, MA *02532

*OAK LEAF MARINA, INC
218 FERRY ROAD
OLD SAYBROOK, CT *06475

OCEAN PERFORMANCE
280 BOSTON POST ROAD
OLD SAYBROOK, CT *06475


tsubaki 05-22-2007 10:18 PM

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I'm having problems trying to get parts numbers. See if any of these guys can give some reasonable help.

Sean 05-22-2007 10:19 PM

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Nice, I will call these guys tomorrow.
Thanks again!

tsubaki 05-22-2007 10:21 PM

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The housing may not need replacing. I just do it on any motor that it's the first time working on it.

tsubaki 05-23-2007 07:48 AM

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Sean, I am getting nowhere confirming the correct part for that motor.

Sean 05-23-2007 08:55 AM

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Thanks for trying!
I got the Customer service # for mercury (though I left it @ home ::) )
I am going to try and give them a call. Like I said today I am going to remove t he lower unit and hope that everything looks brand new ;D. I just bought the boat last August and had it serviced before I picked it up, so maybe they replaced everything? ??? ;D

Sean 05-23-2007 04:46 PM

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Well I talk to a guy a Sierra today, 2 minutes later I had the part # I neede, 18-3217.
Of course No one around here has it so I oredered it, and why I wait for delivery I am going to still change out the impeller in the lower unit to eas my mind for this weekend fishing..

tsubaki 05-23-2007 05:37 PM

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Look at the tube adaptor to make sure it's not deformed from improper installation . The 75hp we just put a complete pump in had a damaged adaptor (this is a small pvc looking thing that is about the size of a 1/2" pvc coupling that goes from the water pump to the tube to the powerhead).

Sean 05-23-2007 09:09 PM

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Well everything in the water pump looks brand new, but I replaced the impeller any ways.
Before I pulled the unit off I put it in reverse,neutral,and frwd to see how the prop spins so I have a reffrence later. In gear in would rotate in the correct direction with alitle preasure.
SO I put the engine in neutrral (thats what the book siad) and pulled it off. Everything went smoothly until I went to put it bavk on, it would go all the way up and stop about 1/2 inch from the top. After 1/2 hr of playing with everything it went up.
Put it in gear nothing prop spun freely ::)
Took it off, played with everything again about 10 min later put it on and it seemed to work.
when in neutral, the prop spins freely. But when in gear it is alott firmer then before in the correct rotation and is the same in the wrong rotaion.
I am going to go hook the hose up to her now and see what happens when I put it in gear.

Sean 05-23-2007 09:32 PM

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Went in/out of frwd/rev alright so I think I should be allset.
The only thing that was wierd was, I did not put the electrolis plate back on yet and when I turned off the water it alott of water poored out of that hole. should the lower unit be filling with water?
It also started spitting water right away, no warm up time that is normal with merc/mariner.

tsubaki 05-23-2007 09:33 PM

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In all honesty, you'll not be able to determine if you've gotten the dog out of time until you put it in the water and run it. Sounds like you done a reasonable job. I'll say good job if you don't have to adjust it out on the control cables or redo the dog sequense. Oh and if it pumps water the way you want, that adds points. ;D

tsubaki 05-23-2007 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean
Went in/out of frwd/rev alright so I think I should be allset.
The only thing that was wierd was, I did not put the electrolis plate back on yet and when I turned off the water it alott of water poored out of that hole. should the lower unit be filling with water?
It also started spitting water right away, no warm up time that is normal with merc/mariner.

Fine, good, finish it. :)

tsubaki 05-23-2007 09:36 PM

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Ain't it great.

Sean 05-23-2007 09:44 PM

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Umm, WHos Dog? I really have no idea of what you are talking about, sorry.
If it is out of time, is that a easy fix that I can do on the water?

tsubaki 05-23-2007 10:06 PM

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The first meantion is on the first page and my first post. I'll try to get pictures of the location of the shifter (dog).

Sean 05-23-2007 10:13 PM

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Oh, OK. Does it require the lower unit to come back off :-X
Its the litle gear thing that goes in the back of the lower unit?
ALL I want todo is fish ;D

tsubaki 05-23-2007 10:15 PM

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Nope done erased the photo's.
Remember the splined looking thing toward the front of the foot that is about 5/16 across? It was in the middle but to the front. This is the shift lever mechanism. If you rotated it or moved the control shifter and then assembled the foot to the motor it will be out of time as so far as when you put it in forward,neutral or reverse. Depending on what manufacturer of motor you are working on you may need to remove and install the foot in full reverse or neutral or full forward or one I had you were required to do a combination.
If it goes in and out of gear you did it right.

Sean 05-23-2007 10:19 PM

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THanks, I don't think I moved it. It was kind of loose and we had to "fish" it into place why putting the unit on.
I am super stressed know about the hole thing, but in the big picutre it was/is kinda fun doing it/and learning.
I owe you!
OK 1 more thing, is the lower boot suppused to fill up with water?

tsubaki 05-23-2007 10:23 PM

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Oh, by the way. Did you reassemble the foot useing antiseize?

tsubaki 05-23-2007 10:26 PM

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As far as filling with water it depends on mfr. An old 70hp evinrude I have won't pump good water until I dam off the lower ports. I'm not sure about your motor.

tsubaki 05-23-2007 10:32 PM

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If you didn't use antiseize, BAD DOG NO BISCUIT!
From now until you die whenever you work on a boat, use antiseize.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...Picture089.jpg
Put it on all bolt and nut threads and even on the stems of bolts, especially the zinc plate bolts.

Sean 05-23-2007 10:46 PM

Re: water pump/lower unit
 
oow ant sieze,
No, but i will.
thanks!

tsubaki 05-24-2007 07:56 PM

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This is the 1/2" coupling looking thing that goes to the tube in the powerhead.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...Picture095.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...Picture096.jpg
By the way it's top and bottom.

tsubaki 05-24-2007 07:59 PM

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And this is what it looks like damaged from improper alignment.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...Picture094.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...Picture097.jpg
Again top and bottom.

Sean 05-25-2007 09:09 AM

Re: water pump/lower unit
 
Great, just when I convinced myself that I should be all set, you go and show me something else I probaply ruined ;D Thanks
No, I assume it went in OK :-/
I'm just going to go for it tommorw, hope everything is fine.
I also got a guy comming by next Wednesday to just to a quick once over of everything and I will hopefully have my waterpump in by then and have him to it with me there.
thanks!

tsubaki 05-25-2007 02:31 PM

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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Anytime.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm so glad that we don't live in the Roman times. I think they were the ones to kill the bearer of bad news. ;D

Sean 05-25-2007 03:34 PM

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LOL ;D
Keep your fingers crossed for me, the boat is loaded up and ready to fish tomorrow AM.

tsubaki 05-25-2007 03:39 PM

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Chances are your going to be too busy dodgeing other boats this weekend to effectively fish. Man I wouldn't want to be a dolphin or manatee this weekend.

Sean 05-26-2007 08:26 PM

Re: water pump/lower unit
 
Well everything in my lower unit went perfect today ;D
But I did run into other problems... ::)

tsubaki 05-26-2007 08:28 PM

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Noooooooooooo ;D


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