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rb437 04-03-2007 10:22 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
A little background... I'm replacing the entire drain plug because the threads in the female half of the old one are worn and the new plug I tried does not turn easily. using this combination of old and new threads is how the drain plug worked loose from the transom in the first place. You guys have hit on my exactly why I opened up this thread to begin with. I thought about using epoxy but I wasn't sure something that permanent was what I wanted. I guess if I was rebuilding the transom or something like that then having to remove an epoxied in drain plug would be one small step in a much larger project. In this case I only need to fix the drain plug. The transom is fine. If this drain plug had been epoxied in then this would be a much larger job. I think I'll go with the slow cure 5200 and have a well sealed, secure, and nearly permanent plug.

And that guy on ebay called me an "expert", he has no idea how much back up I got.

Thanks
Rick

PS: I'll be sure to post an after picture

rb437 04-03-2007 10:22 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
A little background... I'm replacing the entire drain plug because the threads in the female half of the old one are worn and the new plug I tried does not turn easily. using this combination of old and new threads is how the drain plug worked loose from the transom in the first place. You guys have hit on my exactly why I opened up this thread to begin with. I thought about using epoxy but I wasn't sure something that permanent was what I wanted. I guess if I was rebuilding the transom or something like that then having to remove an epoxied in drain plug would be one small step in a much larger project. In this case I only need to fix the drain plug. The transom is fine. If this drain plug had been epoxied in then this would be a much larger job. I think I'll go with the slow cure 5200 and have a well sealed, secure, and nearly permanent plug.

And that guy on ebay called me an "expert", he has no idea how much back up I got.

Thanks
Rick

PS: I'll be sure to post an after picture

randlemanboater 04-04-2007 03:37 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
I guess my tube of 5200 wasn't mixed up right cause it dripped for hours. *It says that is cures in the tube even with the cap on but the tube I have has been opened for almost 2 weeks and it is still runny.

Leave it to me to get a bad tube of 5200.

randlemanboater 04-04-2007 03:37 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
I guess my tube of 5200 wasn't mixed up right cause it dripped for hours. *It says that is cures in the tube even with the cap on but the tube I have has been opened for almost 2 weeks and it is still runny.

Leave it to me to get a bad tube of 5200.

Stinky_Hooker 04-04-2007 03:49 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Yeah it was definitely bad then. Probably old stock so the hardner in it went bad...that sucks!

Stinky_Hooker 04-04-2007 03:49 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Yeah it was definitely bad then. Probably old stock so the hardner in it went bad...that sucks!

macojoe 04-04-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
For the price there should never be a bad tube!! Take it back for another!!

macojoe 04-04-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
For the price there should never be a bad tube!! Take it back for another!!

tsubaki 04-05-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by randlemanboater
I guess my tube of 5200 wasn't mixed up right cause it dripped for hours. *It says that is cures in the tube even with the cap on but the tube I have has been opened for almost 2 weeks and it is still runny.

Leave it to me to get a bad tube of 5200.

I've had the same problem, however it was weather related. Low temps and high humidity kept it dripping for a week, easiest remedy is to use the quick cure type. 24hrs its like tire rubber.

tsubaki 04-05-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by randlemanboater
I guess my tube of 5200 wasn't mixed up right cause it dripped for hours. *It says that is cures in the tube even with the cap on but the tube I have has been opened for almost 2 weeks and it is still runny.

Leave it to me to get a bad tube of 5200.

I've had the same problem, however it was weather related. Low temps and high humidity kept it dripping for a week, easiest remedy is to use the quick cure type. 24hrs its like tire rubber.

phatdaddy 04-06-2007 01:08 AM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
I've keep 5200, silicone, boat life, etc. in the freezer. most of that stuff won't kick in that low temp. do most of ya'll have the garbor style plug. mine is the old brass tube with the rubber plug. i would like to change mine out. anybody ever done it?

phatdaddy 04-06-2007 01:08 AM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
I've keep 5200, silicone, boat life, etc. in the freezer. most of that stuff won't kick in that low temp. do most of ya'll have the garbor style plug. mine is the old brass tube with the rubber plug. i would like to change mine out. anybody ever done it?

macojoe 04-06-2007 06:41 AM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Just take the old off, fill screw holes, Coat the inside of the hole with 5200, again put pleanty on the ne tube and hammer it in, Let dry it dry for a day or two, to insure it is dry and tight!!

The tube is long when you get it, I had a buddy saw it in half the same thickness of the transom, then when he pushed it in, and held it tight, someone hammer the inside over against transom to insure it stays.

macojoe 04-06-2007 06:41 AM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Just take the old off, fill screw holes, Coat the inside of the hole with 5200, again put pleanty on the ne tube and hammer it in, Let dry it dry for a day or two, to insure it is dry and tight!!

The tube is long when you get it, I had a buddy saw it in half the same thickness of the transom, then when he pushed it in, and held it tight, someone hammer the inside over against transom to insure it stays.

cfelton 04-08-2007 12:52 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
I used 5200 on every screw, bolt and everything that fastened to my hull . It works very well for me. I even put it on the rubber O ring when mounting the gimble back on the transom. Probley catch hell if I ever have ta take it off. Dont have ta worry about it leaking though!

cfelton 04-08-2007 12:52 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
I used 5200 on every screw, bolt and everything that fastened to my hull . It works very well for me. I even put it on the rubber O ring when mounting the gimble back on the transom. Probley catch hell if I ever have ta take it off. Dont have ta worry about it leaking though!

rb437 04-22-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
As promised, the after picturehttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/DSC00028.jpg

rb437 04-22-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
As promised, the after picturehttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/DSC00028.jpg

RobsTV 06-14-2007 09:43 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Cleaning up transom here, and I like the look of the new drain.

With my '73 Center Console, the drain and both scuppers had the brass inserts, and all three are bad. Looks like same brass insert is used in all three locations. Each scupper had a rubber flap attached to outside transom with a single screw above. Did not close well.

What 3 parts are recommended as replacements?
Brass tubes again, with rubber plug for drain? Or Drain like photo above, and modern scupper? Part #'s and sources would be great help!

Thanks,
Rob

RobsTV 06-14-2007 09:43 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Cleaning up transom here, and I like the look of the new drain.

With my '73 Center Console, the drain and both scuppers had the brass inserts, and all three are bad. Looks like same brass insert is used in all three locations. Each scupper had a rubber flap attached to outside transom with a single screw above. Did not close well.

What 3 parts are recommended as replacements?
Brass tubes again, with rubber plug for drain? Or Drain like photo above, and modern scupper? Part #'s and sources would be great help!

Thanks,
Rob

macojoe 06-14-2007 10:14 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
You can replace the plug with a screw in type as the pic as long as there is enough space to screw to?? The tubes use a larger hole so you may be forced to use new tubes.

Lots of 5200 on the new install, and what a budy just told me was he ran a strong string thur the tube with a piece of wood tied to it.

Wood on the outside string tied to something tight in the boat, this will hold the tube in tight till 5200 drys!

As for scupers I let some one who no's, I have never owned a pair.

macojoe 06-14-2007 10:14 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
You can replace the plug with a screw in type as the pic as long as there is enough space to screw to?? The tubes use a larger hole so you may be forced to use new tubes.

Lots of 5200 on the new install, and what a budy just told me was he ran a strong string thur the tube with a piece of wood tied to it.

Wood on the outside string tied to something tight in the boat, this will hold the tube in tight till 5200 drys!

As for scupers I let some one who no's, I have never owned a pair.

RobsTV 06-15-2007 10:40 AM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Thanks for the reply.
Rubber plug in drain was no big deal, scuppers were main thing. Screw type drain just looked a lot better.

Where to buy the tube(s)? West Marine? Stick with brass?

The old tubes were flared over transom on both ends.
Of course new tube will neeed to be straight on one end to insert in hole.
With 5200 applied right, is it nessasary to try to flare other end of tube (tight inside bilge)?

Thanks.

RobsTV 06-15-2007 10:40 AM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Thanks for the reply.
Rubber plug in drain was no big deal, scuppers were main thing. Screw type drain just looked a lot better.

Where to buy the tube(s)? West Marine? Stick with brass?

The old tubes were flared over transom on both ends.
Of course new tube will neeed to be straight on one end to insert in hole.
With 5200 applied right, is it nessasary to try to flare other end of tube (tight inside bilge)?

Thanks.

macojoe 06-15-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
West or any were should hve them, Flared on one end, no need for flare needed but lots of 5200!!

macojoe 06-15-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
West or any were should hve them, Flared on one end, no need for flare needed but lots of 5200!!

RobsTV 06-15-2007 03:41 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
You can see old scupper in this gallery photo, and also see why I am cleaning up transom (while swapping the '75 135hp for '83 175hp).

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...ducerLocation2

RobsTV 06-15-2007 03:41 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
You can see old scupper in this gallery photo, and also see why I am cleaning up transom (while swapping the '75 135hp for '83 175hp).

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...ducerLocation2

macojoe 06-15-2007 03:48 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Nice looker!!

macojoe 06-15-2007 03:48 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Nice looker!!

reelapeelin 06-15-2007 04:06 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
135 to 175 8) ...that'll give the ol' girl a nice KICK in the pants!!... ;) ...good upgrade...

How does the Fish Finder work on plane w/the transducer mounted there?...

reelapeelin 06-15-2007 04:06 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
135 to 175 8) ...that'll give the ol' girl a nice KICK in the pants!!... ;) ...good upgrade...

How does the Fish Finder work on plane w/the transducer mounted there?...

RobsTV 06-15-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Transducer does not work well above 20mph.
Have moved it up and down, as well as several other places.
Had an old thread here when I mounted it about a year ago.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/cgi-bin/...num=1147871611

But, it might just be the hummingbird matrix 17 sucks.

EDIT: Just read above link again, and looked at photo.
We moved it.
It now is located on farthest outside step, (below the vents coming out the back), which is why it probably doesn't work above 20mph.

RobsTV 06-15-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Transducer does not work well above 20mph.
Have moved it up and down, as well as several other places.
Had an old thread here when I mounted it about a year ago.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/cgi-bin/...num=1147871611

But, it might just be the hummingbird matrix 17 sucks.

EDIT: Just read above link again, and looked at photo.
We moved it.
It now is located on farthest outside step, (below the vents coming out the back), which is why it probably doesn't work above 20mph.

RobsTV 06-16-2007 06:47 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Any thoughts on scuppers for the '72 Center Console?
Stick with brass tubes (same as drain?) and rubber flap (hope not).

CPES is going in tomorrow (Sunday), then next weekend the Layup & Laminating Resin, with cap rebuild perhaps 4 days later. Hope to be in the water for fireworks weekend. (Transom was always rock solid, and surprised to see like new under old cap, but a few drilled holes along bottom were soft. Boat was pickled in warehouse for 15 years).

RobsTV 06-16-2007 06:47 PM

Re: Replacing the drain plug
 
Any thoughts on scuppers for the '72 Center Console?
Stick with brass tubes (same as drain?) and rubber flap (hope not).

CPES is going in tomorrow (Sunday), then next weekend the Layup & Laminating Resin, with cap rebuild perhaps 4 days later. Hope to be in the water for fireworks weekend. (Transom was always rock solid, and surprised to see like new under old cap, but a few drilled holes along bottom were soft. Boat was pickled in warehouse for 15 years).


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