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Bygracealone 05-22-2007 11:12 PM

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Hey Franco, check your PM's when you get a moment ;)

frayed_knot 05-22-2007 11:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco
He would have to buy all Pepsi's all week!

Nuttin but diet Pepsi for you guys ;) I live in the birthplace for Pepsi Cola btw, New Bern, North Carolina holds that distinction :D

frayed_knot 05-22-2007 11:25 PM

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BGA, sorry I didn't respond to your post about weight transfer. The wood cross pieces seem to transfer the load to the edges of the tank instead of having the weight pressing down just in the middle of it. Seems to work.

Bygracealone 05-22-2007 11:37 PM

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Okay, that makes sense.

Thanks for remembering my question...

msbhammer 05-22-2007 11:57 PM

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Looking good frayed. Your gonna be done soon enough.
Great step by step photo's. ;)

macojoe 05-23-2007 12:51 AM

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Looks good!! And I already drink Diet Pepsi ;)

parishht 05-23-2007 09:54 AM

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Looks really good.

I didn't see the kitchen sink in those pics?????????

phatdaddy 05-23-2007 10:02 AM

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frayed, i used these, not sure what you call them. *i got them at west marine. *i mounted them on a small piece of wood and "5200"ed them to the underside of the lip on the deck. you need to use something that will let you move it around until you get all in and tight and then will set up

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...y/POL_0333.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...y/POL_0334.jpg


http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...y/POL_0332.jpg
pics aren't too good. its a threaded flat washer with teeth to sink into wood. look in the fastner section of west marine they also work great on the rod boxes in the gunnells

msbhammer 05-23-2007 11:46 AM

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Thats a good find on parts Phats. ;)

reelapeelin 05-23-2007 02:05 PM

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Phat...those little puppies are called T-Nuts...handy items on boats ... several on mine now includin' the 4 that hold the elec. trollin' motor on the bow ... like I said...handy ... and they're so cheap, too ::) ... ;D ;D ...

parishht 05-23-2007 02:44 PM

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Those are great nuts, but why buy at WEST?

You can get the same at Lowes and Home Depot,
probably cheaper.

phatdaddy 05-23-2007 08:56 PM

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my daughter works at west marine ;D

frayed_knot 05-23-2007 09:21 PM

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Got any pics showing how you used them? You used these on the supports over the tank?

phatdaddy 05-23-2007 09:28 PM

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i'd have to take the tankcover off. i replaced the screws with the threaded ones. i kept having to get bigger screws because the holes were getting "wallerd"(its a southern thing) out. i took these and pressed them on a piece of pressure treated wood and "5200"ed them to the bottom of the lip the deck plate fits in. i then got the bolts to fit and snugged them down let it set 3 days and now i have a mech fastner not a screw hole.

frayed_knot 05-23-2007 09:32 PM

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Ohhhhhh, now I understand ;)

And I understood "wallerd", how about "winder" and "yant-to" ;D

phatdaddy 05-23-2007 09:45 PM

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i was "fixin" to post this pic, but all it shows is the head of the screw
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...y/POL_0336.jpg

frayed_knot 05-23-2007 10:45 PM

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I see you have it caulked up too. I wonder if I should do that. Anybody have any input on that?

Bygracealone 05-23-2007 11:09 PM

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Fray, after all that good work you've done, I would definitely caulk it.

frayed_knot 05-23-2007 11:12 PM

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I wonder how much 4200 that would take?

msbhammer 05-23-2007 11:12 PM

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Yes to caulking her in. Cuts down on sand, water and moisture getting in.

phatdaddy 05-23-2007 11:22 PM

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i just used a good grade white silicone. it really dosen't have to hold anything & i usually go into it once or twice a year. i lay a bead about 3/8 in dia on the lip and then fasten the lid downon the opening

frayed_knot 05-23-2007 11:28 PM

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I love this site. Thanks guys! :)

frayed_knot 05-24-2007 12:33 AM

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Tomorrow I will start laying on some glass. Pics to follow.

msbhammer 05-24-2007 12:36 AM

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Cant wait. ;)

Skools Out 05-24-2007 12:37 AM

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do you need more resin? or hardner? how well did the resin work out for ya so far?

macojoe 05-24-2007 01:49 AM

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I would just use some cheap calk for now, When you put the boat up for the winter, take the cover off and allow the foam to dry out, then in spring reinstall cover with 4200.

msbhammer 05-24-2007 01:56 AM

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Thats not a bad idea as MJ stated. But does foam dry out ???

frayed_knot 05-24-2007 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Skools Out
do you need more resin? or hardner? how well did the resin work out for ya so far?

I believe I'm good on the resin :D It seemed to work OK, I still have all the stuff piled on so I can't tell ya just yet. It sure seemed to take forever to setup though. I only mixed .5% MEPK ( 16 oz resin to 1/2 tsp catalyst). I wanted plenty of time to work, but this was like over 4 hours before kicking. It was setup by the morning though.

Skools Out 05-24-2007 09:11 AM

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that's really best the slower it sets up the stronger the bond plus it soaks into the wood better, sounds like you did great. we want pics.

frayed_knot 05-24-2007 08:24 PM

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Here it is without the weight
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/100_0763.jpg

Uh-oh, we got a problem >:(
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/100_0764.jpg
It may be hard to see, but there is NO BOND where I have that piece of wood sticking in. It goes all the way to the outside edge and for and aft at least 18". I mixed up a hot batch of resin and dumped it in the hole, then set some weight on it.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/100_0765.jpg

I dunno what happened exactly, but it looks like I just didn't have enough of the sticky stuff on there and the wood soaked up some. Well, I'm on hold until this sets up, but I am going to end up with some unbonded "pockets". I'll just get her sealed up the best I can and hope she makes it 4 or 5 years. More to come tomorrow.

phatdaddy 05-24-2007 09:00 PM

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might have had too much weight and pushed the resin out. i've done that with clamps before' either way. its better than it was.

frayed_knot 05-24-2007 09:02 PM

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Nah, not much squeezed out. Musta been from lack of goo. My bad.

Skools Out 05-24-2007 11:43 PM

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you'll be ok that resin probably soaked into the wood but not an issue you did it right ;D

frayed_knot 05-24-2007 11:43 PM

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OK. it setup quicker than I thought it would, so I got to it.

Flipped over ready for some resin
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/100_0766.jpg

And here it is with resin and cloth applied
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/100_0767.jpg

The freebie mat I got was real heavy roving with matting applied to one side. Way too heavy for this job, it would be great for stringers or maybe even a transom. I might try it when I rebuild my battery and trim pump shelves.

Skools Out 05-24-2007 11:46 PM

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looks great one coat is all you need. hey how much resin do ya have left enough for the battery tray?

frayed_knot 05-24-2007 11:53 PM

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Really! I was planning a second coat of resin just cuz. But screw that if I don't ;D Yeah bro I have plenty of resin left, more than a gallon I'm sure. I only used maybe 3/4 of a gallon on this job.

Skools Out 05-24-2007 11:57 PM

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lol oh well hell rebuild the battery tray and more then ;D

frayed_knot 05-25-2007 12:05 AM

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If I knew how I'd build a seat box or two ;)

Skools Out 05-25-2007 12:25 AM

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come on over we'll build one or 2 maybe 4 or more. ;D

frayed_knot 05-25-2007 12:27 AM

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Aiiight :D


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