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Yep, he posted a link ...and then went away again...

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Hey guys,

Sorry about the inconsistent attendance... I thought Skool's Out meant we were on a break for the winter ;D

Well, it's been way too cold to do any work on the boat... I'll have to wait till temps get higher before I dare to do any work. Man, I wish I had a garage! What is it about the East? It seems like garages aren't the norm. Back in CA I don't think I ever saw a house without a garage... Anyway, put that on my wishlist. My birthday is May 19th. Looks like I share the month with ol' Stinky. That can't be good. :P

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Well, at least we know he's alive and kickin'. ;D

Airslot

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I agree!! Y don't we have more garages!! I would kill for one!!

Glad to see you still alive!!

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Thanks MJ, glad to still be alive ;)

Good to be back in touch with y'all too :)

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Welcome back BG, does this mean we have to behave? ::)

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Thanks Parishht, good to be back...

Now, as to behaving, yeah right, as if I could ever get you guys to behave :P

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B.G., thats a name from the past. Glad your back to postings. ;D

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Gracias Hammer,

It's good to see some familiar names still on the forum.

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You've strayed from the flock and now you've returned ;) ...

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You were gone so long, I was going to delete you!! ;)

Just kidding, Glad you are back! :-*

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BG welcome back! *How the boat coming along? *Bily Mac *;D

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Thanks guys, I especially appreciate the the reference to the flock. Good one RAP ;)

Thanks for not deleting me MJ.

Billy Mac, thanks for asking about the boat. I have a few more things to do, but nothing major (that I know of). I have a couple more electrical things to take care of like the bilge pump and a couple of switches at the dash.

I also have to install the steering, throttle, and shifter cables. Man, I've had nothing but trouble with these things. After all this time, it wasn't until I had the cables installed that I realized the cables were frozen. Who knows the last time they worked... So, I went down to buy a used set of cables. I came home installed them and after hooking everything up on the engine end, and running the cables through the hose and through the gunnel, it turns out that one cable is shorter than the other. So, I'm about 6 or 8 inches too short on one of the cables. I'm so tired of running cables!!! So, once we get a warm day, I'll get out there and do it again.

I still haven't started the engine yet. I don't know what to expect. Because I didn't have things ready to start the engine, I didn't winterize it either. I hope I'll be okay. What started off looking like a very mild winter, has changed drastically over the last couple of weeks. Oh yeah, I also left the batteries in the boat (though covered). Am I hosed or what?

Good news is that the bracket and engine installation went smoothly.

Sorry for the long post. I guess I should post more frequently instead of these annual reports :P

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I leave my batterys in all winter not a problem. As for foging the motor, you don't have to get it started to fog, It is best you do, but if all else fails take the plugs out put some Mystery oil in therre and turn the motor over with a wrench on the fly wheel.
This will keep things from rusting up over the winter.

Now that your back and got the motor and bracket done were are the pictures?? ;D

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Hey M.J., thanks for the advice on the mystery oil. I think Skools told me the same thing a while back, I just forgot to do it. Doh!

As for pictures, they're not the best, but the pictures in the gallery are still current as of now.

How's your V coming along? I haven't read through the prior posts yet, but were you able to get that motor working right?

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Well when I put it away it was running perfect! I had to replace a power pack and all seems well. we will see in May when we get the cover off!!

My fingers are crossed!!

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That's wonderful news! Very glad to hear everything seems to have worked out.

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We'll be pullin' for ya come sprintime!!... ;) ...

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I like you reel, you can pull me now! :-*

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Why is M.J. always complaining about posting Pics. ;D :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

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I am not!!
Just complaining about you asking in every single post just to drive your numbers up! ;)

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Okay, where was I... *Oh, yes, installing NFB... * ;D

I know it's been a while, but I've finally gotten around to trying to install this steering system. *I need some help boys.

Skools hooked me up with what is shown in the previous pages of this thread. *I've installed what he sent as you will see below. *My questions and issues are in between the pics...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g/100_1640.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g/100_1641.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g/100_1642.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g/100_1645.jpg

Okay, what should I do about the helm cover covering the the bolts? *I can't get the helm cover flush because it lays over the bolts... *Should I try and sand or grind the plastic cover in those areas? *I think I need to shave the whole thing just a bit anyway because even though it's not a 45 degree helm, there is a slight angle to it...

The other question I have has to do with whether or not there's enough space around the helm for it to function properly. *Here's what it looks like from the inside:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g/100_1644.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g/100_1644.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g/100_1646.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g/100_1647.jpg

I think I'll be able to get the cable to feed into the helm, but it's gonna be a bit tight and will likely end up touching the side of the console there in the pic. *

I haven't been able to actually insert the cable into the helm yet because I lost the silly little key that goes onto the steering column to engage the steering wheel. *Anybody have an extra one of those little keys ??? *It's gonna cost me something like $10 to replace it because they only sell it with the steering wheel nut and washer. *Go figure *:-/

So, any help you guys have to offer will be greatly appreciated. *

Sorry about the overload of info. *It's been a while *:) *

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Looks like its gonna work to me? What you are looking for is a "woodruff key" and if you knew the size could get at any good hardware store. I don't know the suze, sorry.

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they sell the key's at Lowe's justtake the helm or thesteering wheel to Lowe's and look in the speciality area in nuts and bolts isle. should be about $0.30 maybe little less or more. i'd mark the bolt head locations with a marker and trim out a notch in the helm cover with a small curved hand file. sorry i missed trimming your cover >:( you should have enough room for the cable under there mine id as tight as yours in my 21

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COOL!

Hey, thanks for the help guys.

And I owe a very special thank you to Skools. Thanks brudda!

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i'm so glad to see it actually fit the old dash holes wow and it was made 9 hours away and it fit all but the cover didn't i send you a spare cover?

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Perfect fit at that... I bored the holes outon the boat just a hair so that the bolts would grab hold firmly enough to run the nuts on the other side.

Also, yes, you sent me an extra cover. That's the one in the picture. It fits better than the other. At least I have an extra one in case I mess up :P

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BGA...where is the housing for the steerin' cable?...

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Reel,

What you see in the pic is the end of the cable that goes into the helm. Once I finally get that "woodruff key" I'll be able to rotate the the helm and feed the cable into it. Once the end of the cable is fully fed into the helm, you'll see that the cable has a housing.

Did I understand your question rightly?

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BGA here's what Reel is talking about the tube that goes on the out side of the steering box for the cable as it comes back out and you should pump a few pumps of good marine grease into your tube plus on your steering cable as it goesd into the box.


See the cable go by then a light color tube comes back from the box

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...MVC-010S-2.jpg

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Hey guys,

I finally got it installed, but it's not as easy to turn the wheel as I would have thought. Is that normal for these systems?

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Good job ByGrace...yup...you'll feel some resistance when it's new...that's the "clutch" inside the helm that provides the "No-Feed-Back" ...it'll loosen up w/time ...but right now it shouldn't be "EXCESSIVE" ... do you think it is?...what position did you have motor when trying?...

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did you fill the tube that goes on the steering box with grease? I always pump 3 or 4 pumps ofgrease in both sides of the steering box and i put 3 to 4 pumps in the tube and then put inthe boat but yeah new ones are a little tight

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Thanks Reel and Skools.

Okay... It's tight, but I'm not sure it's excessive. I didn't add any oil as Skools suggested, perhaps I should redo it???

Also, should I add some grease to where the other end goes into the tilt tube?

The steering cable is pretty tight under the dash where it bends up to the helm. Hopefully, it's not too tight that it puts too much stress on the cable. I'll snap some pics tomorrow.

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well i would grease the tilt tube on the motor and the tube on the steering box. both would help all. just turn the motor hard withthe steering arm all the way out then rub some grease on the arm and then turn back in with steering wheel, i want to see completed pics to see how well my parts fit from so far away.

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Will do, pics are the least I can do for you bro. ;)

Although, I sort of jacked up the plastic helm cover. I got a little carried away in making the cutouts to clear the bolts... I think I'll just 5200 and then throw on a little black touch up paint over it...

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small tube of black 5200 will fix it or try the other cover ;D

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Sweet! I didn't even know they made that stuff in black. Good to know.

I may try it again on the other cover first though :P

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if you use black 5200 i don't know if you know it but you can clean 5200 up and off your unwanted areas with mineral spirits paint thinner ;D

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He posted those a page or two back ;) ... and they look great 8) ...