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I have made up my mind!!

After I return this weekend from camping its getting cleaned and YES Waxed!!

Ready for the sale!! :-/

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SAY IT AINT SO JOE!!!!! You cant do it MJ, I won't cost you anything to hang onto it. You could not replace it for what you'll get for it. Don't give it away. I'll have to make a paddle out of starboard and pay someone to spank you, maybe the girl on your Icon there.

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Dont sell that boat just yet.

Just got off the phone with my bud in Alabama, works at Sanders Trucking (pretty large outfit in 'Bama)

News is from they're news flashes, that fuel prices will go down as the Centenial pipe line was back up today from 30% flow up to 68% capacity. (pipeline that moves avaiation fuel, gasoline, diesel, etc...)
The pipeline runs from Texas all the way up to New York state and supplies most if not all the fuel for the East Coast.

They got electricity and repairs done to the pipeline and predict it will be back to almost 75% by this weekend (100,000,000 gallons a day flows thru this pipeline)

It's noted that fuel costs should subside by next weekend.

When I get the email, I'll post it here for ya guys to read.
Sounds like this weekend might suck for travel/fishin and all that, but relief should come by next week and they're fully expecting to get the pipeline back to 100% capacity soon.

That should buy time to get the refinery and supply process moving again and offloading of crude. Apparently, it's top priority from what's said to get the cost down to avoid 'panick'.

John's got pretty good sources for this info and I trust it... might not burn alot of fuel during this weekend and will keep it to a minimum and see what transpires next weekend.

DONT SELL THAT BOAT JUST YET!!!

what's funny is, new boat sales might take a huge hit. Doesnt look like anyone will be in the "buying" mode on new boats. That right there might of increased the value of the used boat market. With all the talk of people sellin, it will definately be a buyers market. Now's a great time to upgrade to a larger boat.... thing is.. they come with bigger fuel tanks!!!


But who knows... maybe down the road we glass parkin lot the middle east in the name of allah and gas goes down to .30 cent a gallon.... but probably not....

Say NO to Maco... dont sell just yet brother.. looks like a little light in the tunnel may be comin.

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MJ,given this volital and overinflated oil crisis we're expierencing I think the last thing anybody would do is go buy a boat. You own your boat, it does'nt own you...dont sell!! [You can still put a nice coat of wax on her though]

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MJ - That's NUTz MJ!! You'll get pennies for what your boat is worth (selling at the end of the season, when gas is at record high prices).

Park it and wax it up for next season . . . gas prices should be down by then.

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Don't sell your boat you'll kick you own @$$ if you do.

well boys our gas went to
$3.99 reg.
$4.09 med
$4.19 high

Diesel $2.89

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MJ, all that hard work you and CB put into it recently...and you're gonna stand there and watch 'er go out the driveway for peanuts...hang in there, Pal...don't let a "knee-jerk" reaction bring you regrets later... ;) ;D...

here's the latest
 

I just thought I would send you guys the information I have on what is happening with the gas situation. The jump in prices was caused by the instability created when the Colonial Pipeline was shut down. Colonial pumps close to 100,000,000 gallons of product per day from Houston to New York fueling the storage tanks at the fuel depots. When the pipeline shut down it put everyone to using onsite storage reserves and created a panic. The line is now being repaired and we should see the market stabilize and correct itself once the panic subsides. We purchase our fuel to keep our trucks going straight from the central Alabama depot and they keep me updated on what is going on. Here is the latest update I recieved today and the news is pretty good.

COLONIAL RESTART SUCCESSFUL, CAPACITY SCHEDULED TO INCREASE

September 1, 2005

Colonial Pipeline has successfully completed restart of Main Lines 1 and 2 and safely resumed partial service around 6:00 p.m. Wednesday, August 31, 2005. Original estimates of 25% to 35% of normal operational capacity for initial return to service have been exceeded, and Colonial is now operating at about 40% capacity.


With the return to service of additional electrical power in Mississippi later today, Colonial anticipates that it will be able to operate at approximately 61% of normal capacity by the end of today (Thursday, 9/1/05.) Both gasoline and distillates are currently being transported and delivered.


"As always, our first concerns are for protection of people and our environment. With this in mind, we continue to work closely with the electric utilities as they re-establish service in Mississippi," stated David Lemmon, President and CEO of Colonial. "The devastation from Hurricane Katrina is tremendous, and I commend the men and women who are working diligently to restore the energy that we need and rely on."


With additional restoration of electrical service as well as connection of distributed generation equipment currently en route to Mississippi, Colonial anticipates that it will be able to achieve approximately 74% of normal operating capacity by Sunday, and 75% to 86% by early or mid-next week.


Colonial Pipeline, headquartered in Alpharetta, Ga., delivers a daily average of 100 million gallons of gasoline, home heating oil, aviation fuel and other refined petroleum products to communities and businesses throughout South and the Eastern United States. Colonial consists of more than 5,500 miles of pipeline, originating at Houston, Texas, and terminating at the New York harbor.

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Here is a map of the Pipeline so you can see what I am talking about. Most people are not aware that this is where most of our fuels come from since they only see Tankers hauling it from Depots to Gas companies and from there company named trucks deliver to the station with the company name that sells product. Once the refinery and the power at the spur that runs to LA. is fixed capacity should be back to 100%.


Later

Tums

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WD, that really IS some good news...always knew they'd get those lines(they go right thru Spartanburg) re-started soon as they are losing their a$$e$ while it's down...only time will tell, but wonder if pump prices will go back to where they were B4 the shut-down..."Easy to go up; HARD to go down" syndrome seems to permeate the petroleum industry... ::)...

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;D

http://www.forumpictureprocessor.com...ages/gas_2.jpg

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Stinky, that's beautiful! 8)

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Picture is worth a thousand....LAUGHS good one Stinky! :D

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REG...ARM MID...LEG PREM...NORTONS

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You guys even make being RAPED at the pump funny...whadda HOOT!!... ;D...

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I went to the Coast over the weekend to check on my place and believe it or not Gas was actually cheaper at the beach than here.

Down in Burlington NC *But Still
Reg. * * $2.99 to $3.19
Diesel *$2.89 to $3.09

There at Emerald Isle NC
Reg. * *$2.81 to $3.09
Diesel $2.55 to $2.80

so it is coming back down slowly don't sell them boats just yet.

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you have got to see this one LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.atomfilms.com/contentPlay...s&preplay=

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Hey what's your gas cost now?

Ours here in Burlington NC

Reg. $2.25
Mid. $2.34
Prem. $2.43

Diesel $2.20

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New York, Long Island...2.50 reg 2.59 mid 2.75 prem

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/...r.drilling.ap/

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The provision to not export any of the ANWAR oil is the ONLY sensible item to come outta Washington recently...THAT I can get behind, but if 1 1/2 yrs of America's oil consumption is all that's up there...and seems like a mighty big dog- fight over a really small bone...

The little OIL-RICH country of Dubai on the Persion Gulf figures they have 18-20 yrs of oil production left and are making plans for ''life after oil''...seems we should be doin' the same...in our children's lifetime, all these internal-combustion engines we love so much, will be scrap-metal...we gonna need another power source to push these V20s around...can't let the fish populations get too big... ;)...

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theres anough gas for me! I will be dead and gone when we run out ;D

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I'm pretty skeptical about the idea of "peak oil" and fossil fuels. There are many scientists that believe oil is a renewable resource and very little to do with Dinosaurs.

http://www.freeenergynews.com/Direct...ustainableOil/

Sustainable Oil / Magma Oil

Addressing the theory in circulation that oil is not solely of organic origin, but that there may be another mode of origin as well from deeper in the crust, involving magma.

See also Peak Oil

Sterling's Preface:
There is a substantial body of evidence to support this theory. That does not negate, however, the quest for getting away from dependence on fossil fuels. The greenhouse gasses produced by the burning of such will continue to be a pressing matter that must be addressed. Now that the world has achieved a consciousness about how we treat our planet, this news that we are not so far from depleting our oil reserves is a welcome breath of fresh air, removing some of the panic effect that can foster unrest.


Supporting Evidence, Briefly

* Oil being discovered at 30,000 feet, far below the 18,000 feet where organic matter is no longer found.
* Wells pumped dry later replenished.
* Volume of oil pumped thus far not accountable from organic material alone according to present models.
* In Situ production of methane under the conditions that exist in the Earth's upper mantle. (PhysicsWeb; Sept. 14, 2004)

No Narrow Profit Margins

* Big Oil's obscene profits - Exxon Mobil, the world's largest publicly traded oil company, announced a 32 percent boost in second-quarter profits, the third-largest increase in company history. Royal Dutch Shell, the world's third-largest oil company, reported second-quarter profits up 34 percent. British Petroleum's were up 29 percent. ConocoPhillips, America's third-largest, reported profits that skyrocketed by 51 percent. (Cincinnati Post; Aug. 4, 2005)

Expounding the Theory

* Stalin and Abiotic Oil - Or How Ruppert's 'Peak Oil' Pile is Gaining Tonnage; by Dave McGowan (Educate Yourself; March 5, 2005)
* Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Scam - In 1970 the Russians started drilling Kola SG-3, an exploration well which finally reached a staggering world record depth of 40,230 feet. Since then, Russian oil majors including Yukos have quietly drilled more than 310 successful super-deep oil wells, and put them into production. Last Year Russia overtook Saudi Arabia as the world's biggest single oil producer, and is now set to completely dominate global oil production and sales for the next century.
* Article > Sustainable Oil? - presents theory and evidence that oil is not solely of organic origin. (Rense.com; July 10, 2004) a reprint of Sustainable Oil (WorldNetDaily; May 25, 2004)
* Data >In situ Production of Inorganic-Derived Petroleum - Scientists in the US have witnessed the production of methane under the conditions that exist in the Earth's upper mantle for the first time. The experiments demonstrate that hydrocarbons could be formed inside the Earth via simple inorganic reactions -- and not just from the decomposition of living organisms as conventionally assumed -- and might therefore be more plentiful than previously thought. (PhysicsWeb; Sept. 14, 2004)
* Peak Oil: Can 3D Exploration Postpone The Peak? - Ability to find reserves more readily may postpone the "peak" phenomenon; general discussion of "peak oil" factors. (MSNBC; Sept. 23, 2004) (Alt Energy Blog)
* Follow-up > More Evidence For Sustainable Oil - (Rense.com; July 10, 2004)

* PhysicsWeb - Science gets hot under the crust
* Thomas Gold - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* Book > The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuels - by Thomas Gold, Ph.D. (originally published 1999)

The Deep Hot Biosphere - by Thomas Gold, Ph.D. (2001)
Amazon.com Description of Thomas Gold's book [link above]:

Suppose someone claimed that we are NOT running out of petroleum. . . . Or that life on Earth began below the surface, in the dark airless pores of our planet's rocky crust. Or that oil and gas -- so-called "fossil fuels" -- are not the product of biological debris. You might expect to hear statements like these from an author of science fiction. But what if they come from a renowned scientist, someone who has been called "one of the world's most original minds"? In THE DEEP HOT BIOSPHERE, Thomas Gold sets forth truly controversial and astonishing theories: First, he proposes that Earth supports a subterranean organic domain of greater mass and volume than the biosphere -- the total sum of living things -- on its surface. Second, he proposes that the organisms inhabiting this Deep Hot Biosphere are not plants or animals but heat-loving bacteria that survive on a diet of hydrocarbons -- natural gas and petroleum. And third and perhaps most amazingly, he advances the stunning idea that most hydrocarbons on Earth are not "fossil fuels" but part of the primordial "stuff" from which Earth itself was formed some 4.5 billion years ago. The Deep Hot Biosphere may seem difficult to believe at first glance, but its theories are supported by a growing body of evidence, and by the indisputable stature and seriousness Thomas Gold brings to any scientific enterprise. In this book we see a brilliant and boldly original thinker, increasingly a rarity in modern science, as he develops revolutionary conclusions about the fundamental workings of our planet, the origins of life on Earth, the nature of earthquakes, and even the likelihood of life on -- or within -- other planets.



Do a search:

Thomas Gold
Abiotic Oil

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NOW THATS A POST, GAS HERE AT $2.09

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$2.14 Wareham, Ma and $2.35 Hyannis Cape Cod

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$2.17 tonight when i came in from the coast. Still $2.50 there that's a crock um.

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I found a station here at $1.99/gal yesterday ;D

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Bigshrimpin's post is a bummer... :-/...just when the earth was about to be saved by the depleation of oil, Gold figures out it's renewing itself so after being burned by us it'll continue to destroy the very conditions that allow us the exist in the first place...talk about good news/bad news... ::)...

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Reel - it's just a theory . . . and if it's true there are many unanswered questions. * I suspect that the recent hikes in oil prices and ungodly profits the oil companies (over the last several years) will keep the wheels turning on developing alternative energy sources, so that we're no longer dependent on the a single source. *

I saw $2.29 yesterday in Napa . . . that was the pre-Katrina price. * * * *

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BS, do ya remember the pre-Bush price?...it was even better ;)...

I agree...we're definately on the road to developin' non-petroleum power sources...just wish the Feds would back (or lead) the effort more...guess the decision-makers there are still too dependant on oil REVENUES... ::)...