Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

also anchoring with a center console is much easier than a cuddy.....its gonna be either a console or a dually for me..i anchor way to much for a cuddy......you can always get a t-top with an enclosure for wind blockage.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

also anchoring with a center console is much easier than a cuddy.....its gonna be either a console or a dually for me..i anchor way to much for a cuddy......you can always get a t-top with an enclosure for wind blockage.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

I've had both over the years and I much prefer the cuddy. I can tell you that in a driving rainstorm you can fit 3 people in the Cuddy while it passes.

Anchoring in the cuddy isn';t bad because you can walk almost to the bow with the slider forward.

Fishing? Where do you fish on your boat. If you fish out of the back, this is a no-brainer, as the cuddy has a huge cockpit. PLenty of people catch more fish that I do, but not because they have a Center Console?

For the areas you are going to fish I'd reccomend the Cuddy. And if ya want, your more than welcome to slip over to the shore and spend an afternoon on mind. We can target some of them 18.5" flounder that VA will be famous for this year. ;D

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

I've had both over the years and I much prefer the cuddy. I can tell you that in a driving rainstorm you can fit 3 people in the Cuddy while it passes.

Anchoring in the cuddy isn';t bad because you can walk almost to the bow with the slider forward.

Fishing? Where do you fish on your boat. If you fish out of the back, this is a no-brainer, as the cuddy has a huge cockpit. PLenty of people catch more fish that I do, but not because they have a Center Console?

For the areas you are going to fish I'd reccomend the Cuddy. And if ya want, your more than welcome to slip over to the shore and spend an afternoon on mind. We can target some of them 18.5" flounder that VA will be famous for this year. ;D

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Randleman: *That just may be the compromise I'm looking for...a dual console! *No reason I couldn't put a top on that one. *If the boat in that link is still available, I'd like more info. ([email protected])

Thanks everyone for the comments on the pros and cons. *Anchoring!!! *I didn't think of that. *I would like access to the bow and I may do some flyfishing out of it too.

Could someone explain the "sea-drive" setup as opposed to bracket? *Thanks for everyone's help.

Airslot: Thanks for the kind invite! I am going to take you up on that as soon as I can due to work. Maybe May. I would love to see how the cuddy fishes. I'll bring plenty of gas/bait $ ;)

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Randleman: *That just may be the compromise I'm looking for...a dual console! *No reason I couldn't put a top on that one. *If the boat in that link is still available, I'd like more info. ([email protected])

Thanks everyone for the comments on the pros and cons. *Anchoring!!! *I didn't think of that. *I would like access to the bow and I may do some flyfishing out of it too.

Could someone explain the "sea-drive" setup as opposed to bracket? *Thanks for everyone's help.

Airslot: Thanks for the kind invite! I am going to take you up on that as soon as I can due to work. Maybe May. I would love to see how the cuddy fishes. I'll bring plenty of gas/bait $ ;)

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Yup, we use my buddy's CC all year long, too ...and no doubt it can be dressed for...it's just a little easier w/a Cuddy...I found a 120 qt cooler that fits like a glove into the front hold in my cuddy...top of it's about 3-4" higher than the deck...w/the hatch-lid pushed forward and the windshield open, I've got full access to the bow in an instant and have spent MANY an hour casting rod and net from the top deck of my cuddy... ;D ...

I've seen a CC w/a hard-top that had a FULL ENCLOSURE from the windshield back to the rear of the top and from the sides of the top, down to the tops of the gunwales and it was very effective...zipper access forward and back...

So, Fire, it's gonna come down to a personal reference thing for ya ;) ...

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Yup, we use my buddy's CC all year long, too ...and no doubt it can be dressed for...it's just a little easier w/a Cuddy...I found a 120 qt cooler that fits like a glove into the front hold in my cuddy...top of it's about 3-4" higher than the deck...w/the hatch-lid pushed forward and the windshield open, I've got full access to the bow in an instant and have spent MANY an hour casting rod and net from the top deck of my cuddy... ;D ...

I've seen a CC w/a hard-top that had a FULL ENCLOSURE from the windshield back to the rear of the top and from the sides of the top, down to the tops of the gunwales and it was very effective...zipper access forward and back...

So, Fire, it's gonna come down to a personal reference thing for ya ;) ...

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Fire,

The contact info for that boat is somewhere in that post. GarageNC is the one who brought it to my attention, he lives close to it.
so you should PM him to see if its still around.

The motor was "suspect" according the the dealer selling it, it is a candidate for a bracket and a different motor.......perhaps a 1999 Merc 150?

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Fire,

The contact info for that boat is somewhere in that post. GarageNC is the one who brought it to my attention, he lives close to it.
so you should PM him to see if its still around.

The motor was "suspect" according the the dealer selling it, it is a candidate for a bracket and a different motor.......perhaps a 1999 Merc 150?

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

fire..that dually is worth buying and repowering even if the motor is not good.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

fire..that dually is worth buying and repowering even if the motor is not good.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

I always thought a dually would offer the best compromise. There are not many of them around, and if you exclude those that need major work you are talking about a small group indeed.
That being said, I just spent a few days fishing in Franco's CC. That is a sweet boat and for where he is it is just about perfect.
That being said I would tell you my personal preference is to have a little more comfort. Thats right comfort, not for the kids or CEO but for me.
If you do a lot of running to diffrent spots fishing, have to make more than a ten minute run I get tired of a CC. Yea you can get the enclosures that snap down to the sides with wings and they will keep a lot off of you. But they are a pain in the arse to use when you are out.
With a walk around cuddy, a cuddy or even a dual console you can actually cruise or run and gun to your spots, make a long run to the fishing grounds your hitting and you will be able to be out of the wind, spray if nasty out and you will actually be able to have a conversation with you mates. Especially if you got a full transom or a quiet enough motor. In Old School I did that all the time, when I am on a CC doing the same runs, no one talks unless you are yelling into someones ear and even in 70 degree weather a 30-40 mph run can get chilly while you stand there and hold on.
They have there place and I do love being able to move all the way forward, but then again where I fished there was always a chop, when you stand on a elevated bow platform it was always a balancing act, that is why I love the CC's that don't have them, same floor depth all the way forward.
Each design has its merits for sure, but for me with 95% fishing, 5% family stuff the cuddy gave me everything I needed and let me do it comfortably. I like that word comfort. JMHO

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

I always thought a dually would offer the best compromise. There are not many of them around, and if you exclude those that need major work you are talking about a small group indeed.
That being said, I just spent a few days fishing in Franco's CC. That is a sweet boat and for where he is it is just about perfect.
That being said I would tell you my personal preference is to have a little more comfort. Thats right comfort, not for the kids or CEO but for me.
If you do a lot of running to diffrent spots fishing, have to make more than a ten minute run I get tired of a CC. Yea you can get the enclosures that snap down to the sides with wings and they will keep a lot off of you. But they are a pain in the arse to use when you are out.
With a walk around cuddy, a cuddy or even a dual console you can actually cruise or run and gun to your spots, make a long run to the fishing grounds your hitting and you will be able to be out of the wind, spray if nasty out and you will actually be able to have a conversation with you mates. Especially if you got a full transom or a quiet enough motor. In Old School I did that all the time, when I am on a CC doing the same runs, no one talks unless you are yelling into someones ear and even in 70 degree weather a 30-40 mph run can get chilly while you stand there and hold on.
They have there place and I do love being able to move all the way forward, but then again where I fished there was always a chop, when you stand on a elevated bow platform it was always a balancing act, that is why I love the CC's that don't have them, same floor depth all the way forward.
Each design has its merits for sure, but for me with 95% fishing, 5% family stuff the cuddy gave me everything I needed and let me do it comfortably. I like that word comfort. JMHO

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Willy: thank you for sharing your experience with the different setups, I really appreciate it. One reason I want the boat is to fish with my Dad who is 67 now. So more comfort for him is a plus. He still runs 5 miles most days and a part of him is still at sea in the CG. He always tells me that try docking a 378' high endurance cutter if I think this boat is tough to dock in a wind. :o He's tough as nails but I'd like more comfort for him nonetheless.

Kajun: I know, it's a good deal isn't it?! I just want to make the right choice for my uses. I'm thinking very seriously about making the trip! thanks for your input.

Randleman: 150 Merc, hhmmmm, is it a carb motor?

What is yall's opinion on what that boat would need to be reliable? (besides newer power) I did see a nice one awhile back with a permanent softtop/rocket launchers. Canvas sides, I'm sure could be fitted. What are we talkin with bracket and an outboard upgrade $ wise?

Thanks to all for the valuable input.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Willy: thank you for sharing your experience with the different setups, I really appreciate it. One reason I want the boat is to fish with my Dad who is 67 now. So more comfort for him is a plus. He still runs 5 miles most days and a part of him is still at sea in the CG. He always tells me that try docking a 378' high endurance cutter if I think this boat is tough to dock in a wind. :o He's tough as nails but I'd like more comfort for him nonetheless.

Kajun: I know, it's a good deal isn't it?! I just want to make the right choice for my uses. I'm thinking very seriously about making the trip! thanks for your input.

Randleman: 150 Merc, hhmmmm, is it a carb motor?

What is yall's opinion on what that boat would need to be reliable? (besides newer power) I did see a nice one awhile back with a permanent softtop/rocket launchers. Canvas sides, I'm sure could be fitted. What are we talkin with bracket and an outboard upgrade $ wise?

Thanks to all for the valuable input.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

The Merc is a carb motor w/ the oil injection removed. Runs like a top. It is going on ebay in the next week or so, but I can wait another week til you find direction.

As for brackets, 800 new, 400 used?

If I remember correctly there was a soft spot in the floor of that dually but the transom was good, check w/ garagenc, he has seen it in person.

Look at By Grace Alone's gallery for an idea of what you would have to do to make the switch.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

The Merc is a carb motor w/ the oil injection removed. Runs like a top. It is going on ebay in the next week or so, but I can wait another week til you find direction.

As for brackets, 800 new, 400 used?

If I remember correctly there was a soft spot in the floor of that dually but the transom was good, check w/ garagenc, he has seen it in person.

Look at By Grace Alone's gallery for an idea of what you would have to do to make the switch.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

hey fire
That boat is still available, you may get it for less now since it's been sitting there. This summer it will have been sitting there for a year now. There are other pics of that boat on this site, I took them and sent them to Randleman.

Let me know if you want me to check anything for you.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

hey fire
That boat is still available, you may get it for less now since it's been sitting there. This summer it will have been sitting there for a year now. There are other pics of that boat on this site, I took them and sent them to Randleman.

Let me know if you want me to check anything for you.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Hey Fire, let me wade in, If I still lived in Va Beach, I would still have my Cuddy, but it would have a bracket and a 4 stroke in stead of a i/o. I had a full enclosure that kept my a$$ warm and dry while chasing stripers along the CBBT. Here I fish in skinny water and run offshore too! If I couldhave found a V20 CC here with a full transom I might have bought it instead of my new boat. I know this doesn't help at all. Just buy a V20 and you'll be hooked

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Hey Fire, let me wade in, If I still lived in Va Beach, I would still have my Cuddy, but it would have a bracket and a 4 stroke in stead of a i/o. I had a full enclosure that kept my a$$ warm and dry while chasing stripers along the CBBT. Here I fish in skinny water and run offshore too! If I couldhave found a V20 CC here with a full transom I might have bought it instead of my new boat. I know this doesn't help at all. Just buy a V20 and you'll be hooked

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

heres one.

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Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

heres one.

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Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

ctt shes a nice boat ;)

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

ctt shes a nice boat ;)

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Fire,

With your Dad in mind I say definitely get the cuddy. It'll be much more comfortable than either a cc or dually.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Fire,

With your Dad in mind I say definitely get the cuddy. It'll be much more comfortable than either a cc or dually.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Buy 2 boats - a cuddy for winter and a CC for summer.

Thats what I want!

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Buy 2 boats - a cuddy for winter and a CC for summer.

Thats what I want!

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Ya know, comfort comes in different levels...yeah, there's more protection in a cuddy, but the crew rides farther AFT in a CC for a smoother ride(which may have lead to the duallie)...

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Ya know, comfort comes in different levels...yeah, there's more protection in a cuddy, but the crew rides farther AFT in a CC for a smoother ride(which may have lead to the duallie)...

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Hey you DAWG!!...ya ALREADY GOT two boats!!...wack the cuddy outta the older one and stick a console in the middle of it ;D ;D ;D ;D ...

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Hey you DAWG!!...ya ALREADY GOT two boats!!...wack the cuddy outta the older one and stick a console in the middle of it ;D ;D ;D ;D ...

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

If it weren't so much trouble I would. ;D ;D ;D

Nah, I really want a smaller CC. An 18 Fish would be PERFECT!!

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

If it weren't so much trouble I would. ;D ;D ;D

Nah, I really want a smaller CC. An 18 Fish would be PERFECT!!

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Those are my fishing grounds around the CBBT and off Va Beach. I have a cc which I do have a bimini top with sides and a front which has a zipper door. Its nice for real cold days trolling but it does limit you to fishing from the back of the boat which works. If your not trolling the CBBT your either floating or anchord which both are fine to fish from the rear of the boat. The biggest problem is night and glare. I do not fish that much in the winter months but when I do I'm able to choose my days because I'm self emp. Good luck with what ever you decide.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Those are my fishing grounds around the CBBT and off Va Beach. I have a cc which I do have a bimini top with sides and a front which has a zipper door. Its nice for real cold days trolling but it does limit you to fishing from the back of the boat which works. If your not trolling the CBBT your either floating or anchord which both are fine to fish from the rear of the boat. The biggest problem is night and glare. I do not fish that much in the winter months but when I do I'm able to choose my days because I'm self emp. Good luck with what ever you decide.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Thanks for everyone's comments. I'm leaning towards the DC with bimini and enclosure. Easy access to the bow is a plus and would be fairly good in weather. If I can get away for half a day from work, I'll look at some/probably drag one home! (then the work begins......... :o )

The feedback is much appreciated.

Re: Cuddy vs. CC
 

Thanks for everyone's comments. I'm leaning towards the DC with bimini and enclosure. Easy access to the bow is a plus and would be fairly good in weather. If I can get away for half a day from work, I'll look at some/probably drag one home! (then the work begins......... :o )

The feedback is much appreciated.