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bgreene 05-04-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249481)
Might I remind you that when HRC lost to President Trump there was no national mail in balloting, which became a huge opportunity for the Democrats to indulge in the illegal practice of ballot harvesting which they did to great effect.

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“ ballot harvesting “ claims destroyer - another proven false .

Destroyer 05-04-2022 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249484)
“ ballot harvesting “ claims destroyer - another proven false .

Actually, it's been proven with videos on YouTube where you can see a woman signing the ballots, then dropping them into a mailbox, then going back to her car and signing a bunch more and putting them in the box, over and over. Additionally there were over 140,000 irregularities in ballots in one state that all seemed to be magically in Biden's favor. (That's still be tracked, since they know the name of the person they think did it).

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bgreene 05-04-2022 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249490)
Actually, it's been proven with videos on YouTube where you can see a woman signing the ballots, then dropping them into a mailbox, then going back to her car and signing a bunch more and putting them in the box, over and over. Additionally there were over 140,000 irregularities in ballots in one state that all seemed to be magically in Biden's favor. (That's still be tracked, since they know the name of the person they think did it).

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More nonsense - trump lost by over 8 MILLION POPULAR VOTES and he lost the electoral too

Destroyer 05-05-2022 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249493)
More nonsense - trump lost by over 8 MILLION POPULAR VOTES and he lost the electoral too

Well, ya. I thought we had established that months ago.

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bgreene 05-05-2022 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249497)
Well, ya. I thought we had established that months ago.

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Tell that to the lying cheating con man traitor trump

scook 05-06-2022 01:02 AM

Your “traitor” accusation is also getting pretty boring and tiresome.

Someone who is in danger of being killed who leaves one of their own behind enemy lines, might be called a coward - someone who leaves a great number of his own behind enemy lines when there isn’t the least bit of danger to himself, only the possibility of political advantage, pandering to his base, is absolutely a traitor. Biden is a traitor, Trump, not so much.

bgreene 05-06-2022 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249517)
Your “traitor” accusation is also getting pretty boring and tiresome.

Someone who is in danger of being killed who leaves one of their own behind enemy lines, might be called a coward - someone who leaves a great number of his own behind enemy lines when there isn’t the least bit of danger to himself, only the possibility of political advantage, pandering to his base, is absolutely a traitor. Biden is a traitor, Trump, not so much.

If you’re bored stop posting. TRUTH however is you likely enjoy the discourse - proven by virtue of your continued posts.

Trumps a traitor for his role in the Jan 6, 2021 insurrection attempt.
And …..for other lessor offenses.

scook 05-06-2022 07:57 AM

I enjoy discourse and have repeatedly encouraged you to engage in it. What you write could hardly be called discourse by anyone who understands the meaning of the word.

Trump’s “involvement” in Nov 6, as described by you is very definitely opinion, and alleging undefined lesser offenses as traitorous is pretty weak. As a point of clarification, “lessor” offenses, as you wrote, would be offenses committed by someone “leasing” property.

It doesn’t look like you’ll be able to control yourself and quit posting your far left talking points, but there will probably be someone here to refute them as you do.

bgreene 05-06-2022 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249525)
I enjoy discourse and have repeatedly encouraged you to engage in it. What you write could hardly be called discourse by anyone who understands the meaning of the word.

Trump’s “involvement” in Nov 6, as described by you is very definitely opinion, and alleging undefined lesser offenses as traitorous is pretty weak. As a point of clarification, “lessor” offenses, as you wrote, would be offenses committed by someone “leasing” property.

It doesn’t look like you’ll be able to control yourself and quit posting your far left talking points, but there will probably be someone here to refute them as you do.


" alleged " claims scook..... record shows Trump was " begged " to speak up against his violent mob.
And of course your endless insults.......

scook 05-07-2022 12:50 AM

Well, there’s very little in common between your constant snarky, childish attempts at insults and replies that are honest, accurate descriptions of your behavior.

You repeat well worn left wing media and democrat talking points with no evidence that you’ve applied any critical thinking in the process.

bgreene 05-07-2022 04:22 AM

This threads about the FACT that Trumps held in contempt of court and his attempt at avoidance denied .

Destroyer 05-07-2022 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249544)
This threads about the FACT that Trumps held in contempt of court and his attempt at avoidance denied .

And once again, when a comment hit's home, the topic magically changes back to the original topic. In other words, once again an avoidance of the previous comment.

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bgreene 05-07-2022 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249554)
And once again, when a comment hit's home, the topic magically changes back to the original topic. In other words, once again an avoidance of the previous comment.

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Contempt of court - this IS the thread

scook 05-07-2022 06:39 PM

If it is about Trump being held in contempt, a part of normal legal process, then is is also about normal and customary legal process, where a ruling can be appealed.

Your confirmation bias doesn't allow you to withhold your opinion until the situation is adjudicated. You WANT to believe anything negative about Trump, so you can't control your gleeful reporting of the "fact" that he's guilty of all manner of things and is therefor "avoiding" his punishment.

bgreene 05-07-2022 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249563)
If it is about Trump being held in contempt, a part of normal legal process, then is is also about normal and customary legal process, where a ruling can be appealed.

Your confirmation bias doesn't allow you to withhold your opinion until the situation is adjudicated. You WANT to believe anything negative about Trump, so you can't control your gleeful reporting of the "fact" that he's guilty of all manner of things and is therefor "avoiding" his punishment.

Wrong - just the facts scookie , just the facts

scook 05-07-2022 11:55 PM

The facts are as I stated them. If your understanding of the legal system is as limited as you demonstrate, you shouldn’t be starting a thread like this.

bgreene 05-08-2022 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249571)
The facts are as I stated them. If your understanding of the legal system is as limited as you demonstrate, you shouldn’t be starting a thread like this.

Judge rejected trumps appeal - FACT

scook 05-08-2022 07:01 AM

If you had any experience observing court proceedings, or any honest knowledge of the process, you would know that courts often get it wrong. Yes, it may be a fact that the judge ruled one way or another, but that certainly doesn’t make the ruling factually correct.

I’ve witnessed a clever (of course, dishonest) lawyer perpetuate a lie on a court that resulted in a completely unjust ruling that cost the defendant a huge amount of money, and another similar result, solely due to prejudice on the part of the judge.

Resisting document production and appealing rulings in a politically motivated witch hunt is pretty rational behavior. One can only imagine the support you would be throwing behind one of your lying democrats in a parallel situation.

bgreene 05-08-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249585)
If you had any experience observing court proceedings, or any honest knowledge of the process, you would know that courts often get it wrong. Yes, it may be a fact that the judge ruled one way or another, but that certainly doesn’t make the ruling factually correct.

I’ve witnessed a clever (of course, dishonest) lawyer perpetuate a lie on a court that resulted in a completely unjust ruling that cost the defendant a huge amount of money, and another similar result, solely due to prejudice on the part of the judge.

Resisting document production and appealing rulings in a politically motivated witch hunt is pretty rational behavior. One can only imagine the support you would be throwing behind one of your lying democrats in a parallel situation.

The proven and obviously guilty are guilty scook - Democrat or Republican .

scook 05-08-2022 12:46 PM

Well, since it’s not proven until a court rules and then is subject to error on the part of the court, you are allowing your EXTREME confirmation bias the convict in your mind - only. Once again, completely unconcerned about the obviously guilty democrats - obvious through observation of their public behavior.

bgreene 05-08-2022 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249590)
Well, since it’s not proven until a court rules and then is subject to error on the part of the court, you are allowing your EXTREME confirmation bias the convict in your mind - only. Once again, completely unconcerned about the obviously guilty democrats - obvious through observation of their public behavior.

Scook - this thread is about the FACT that judge held Trump in contempt of court AND REJECTED his appeal. This is NOT a bias ….just a FACT.

scook 05-08-2022 06:16 PM

It’s really a platform for you to gleefully “report” your opinion that Trump is a crook and attempting to avoid what he has coming to him. You’ve made that very clear - this statement looks a lot like one of those denials you are constantly, inaccurately accusing others of.

bgreene 05-08-2022 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249599)
It’s really a platform for you to gleefully “report” your opinion that Trump is a crook and attempting to avoid what he has coming to him. You’ve made that very clear - this statement looks a lot like one of those denials you are constantly, inaccurately accusing others of.

Scook - the judge held trump on contempt of court and denied his appeal.
It’s just what happened . Not an opinion just a fact.

scook 05-08-2022 06:32 PM

Which, as I pointed out, is important to you as another opportunity to presume Trump’s guilt in the associated “investigation” and stroke your own ego in the process of gleefully trumpeting it.

bgreene 05-08-2022 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249604)
Which, as I pointed out, is important to you as another opportunity to presume Trump’s guilt in the associated “investigation” and stroke your own ego in the process of gleefully trumpeting it.

It’s the news and fact scook - you don’t like it that’s your problem .
How you think I “ feel about it “ is irrelevant to the FACT.
But it’s the FACT . Trump held in contempt of court and his appeal denied.

Destroyer 05-09-2022 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249605)
It’s the news and fact scook - you don’t like it that’s your problem .
How you think I “ feel about it “ is irrelevant to the FACT.
But it’s the FACT . Trump held in contempt of court and his appeal denied.

I believe an appeal has been filed to a higher court and everything is on hold pending the outcome of that appeal.

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bgreene 05-09-2022 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249611)
I believe an appeal has been filed to a higher court and everything is on hold pending the outcome of that appeal.

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The higher court REJECTED Trumps appeal - it’s not on “ hold “
Try checking before making a claim…..

https://abc7ny.com/donald-trump-cont...sion/11815097/

Destroyer 05-09-2022 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249615)
The higher court REJECTED Trumps appeal - it***8217;s not on ***8220; hold ***8220;
Try checking before making a claim***8230;..

https://abc7ny.com/donald-trump-cont...sion/11815097/

Interesting. So even though Trump and his company have produced literally millions of pages of documents, the racist judge still wants more. And the Appellate Judge denied Trumps appeal, so the witch hunt goes on. I hope that Trumps suit against the judge is successful and he takes her for all she has. Meanwhile, I guess we'll all have to wait until the next installment of this soap opera.

As for my checking, I was correct. Trump DID file an appeal to a higher court exactly as I claimed. I was not aware that it had been rejected.

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bgreene 05-09-2022 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249624)
Interesting. So even though Trump and his company have produced literally millions of pages of documents, the racist judge still wants more. And the Appellate Judge denied Trumps appeal, so the witch hunt goes on. I hope that Trumps suit against the judge is successful and he takes her for all she has. Meanwhile, I guess we'll all have to wait until the next installment of this soap opera.

As for my checking, I was correct. Trump DID file an appeal to a higher court exactly as I claimed. I was not aware that it had been rejected.

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The SPECIFIC documents requested were NOT provided by trump .
That’s WHY he was held in contempt of court and that’s WHY higher court rejected his appeal.

Destroyer 05-09-2022 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249626)
The SPECIFIC documents requested were NOT provided by trump .
That’s WHY he was held in contempt of court and that’s WHY higher court rejected his appeal.



They said they do not believe him when he said he does not have the documents. So this is really about who you believe, or perhaps a way to make Trump look bad by asking for something they already know that he doesn't have.

Perhaps you believe in magic. I believe it's impossible to produce something that you do not possess. I wonder what those requested missing documents contain.

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bgreene 05-09-2022 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249632)
They said they do not believe him when he said he does not have the documents. So this is really about who you believe, or perhaps a way to make Trump look bad by asking for something they already know that he doesn't have.

Perhaps you believe in magic. I believe it's impossible to produce something that you do not possess. I wonder what those requested missing documents contain.

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Court holds Trump in contempt . That’s the status .

bgreene 05-11-2022 11:57 AM

Judge lifts Trump contempt of court ruling - with contingencies .

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/polit...mpt/index.html

Destroyer 05-11-2022 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249715)
Judge lifts Trump contempt of court ruling - with contingencies .

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/polit...mpt/index.html

Yep. one of them being that Trump has to pay $110,000 in accumulated fines. Personally it smacks of legal extorsion by the court to me, but that's just my opinion. Time will tell as this witch hunt plays out.

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bgreene 05-12-2022 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249732)
Yep. one of them being that Trump has to pay $110,000 in accumulated fines. Personally it smacks of legal extorsion by the court to me, but that's just my opinion. Time will tell as this witch hunt plays out.

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Of course the key document are “ not available “ from Trump .

bgreene 05-12-2022 07:22 PM

Now trying to get the documents Trump took to Florida.
Good luck - likely he had all cheating related paperwork shredded.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/12/polit...ago/index.html

Destroyer 05-12-2022 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249757)
Now trying to get the documents Trump took to Florida.
Good luck - likely he had all cheating related paperwork shredded.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/12/polit...ago/index.html

More opinion with zero factual evidence. What IS factual is that Trump has already provided over one million pages of documents to that kangaroo court. I would tend to think if he had the documents (whatever they are) he would have provided them also. If the court thinks that the National Archives has the documents why didn't they just subpoena them in the beginning instead of making Trump look for them and pay that fine? (or maybe the whole idea was to make trump look bad and pay money?)

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bgreene 05-13-2022 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249767)
More opinion with zero factual evidence. What IS factual is that Trump has already provided over one million pages of documents to that kangaroo court. I would tend to think if he had the documents (whatever they are) he would have provided them also. If the court thinks that the National Archives has the documents why didn't they just subpoena them in the beginning instead of making Trump look for them and pay that fine? (or maybe the whole idea was to make trump look bad and pay money?)

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That’s your opinion - the law and the judge says otherwise

scook 05-13-2022 07:24 AM

The “law” doesn’t “say” anything. It’s something judges or juries “apply” in decisions.

If you had any actual experience with the court system, you would know that judges and juries often err. Sometimes, it’s due to incompetence, prejudice or outright dishonesty of the judge, sometimes due to buying the lies of a clever lawyer - I’m this case, it seems likely that the judge is prejudiced. In any case, you claim certainty, heavily imputing guilt to Trump, when you are probably 100% ignorant of the facts of the case.

bgreene 05-13-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249785)
The “law” doesn’t “say” anything. It’s something judges or juries “apply” in decisions.

If you had any actual experience with the court system, you would know that judges and juries often err. Sometimes, it’s due to incompetence, prejudice or outright dishonesty of the judge, sometimes due to buying the lies of a clever lawyer - I’m this case, it seems likely that the judge is prejudiced. In any case, you claim certainty, heavily imputing guilt to Trump, when you are probably 100% ignorant of the facts of the case.

You claim all legal challenges to trump are either biased or unfair .
You claim I’m probably 100 % ignorant to the facts.
And you write about “ bias”. That’s ……funny !

scook 05-13-2022 09:08 AM

You’re just really into lying aren’t you? I have never claimed that all legal challenges to Trump are biased or unfair, I’m pointing out that you are quick to believe they are all fair and pronounce his guilt, at least by insinuation. I think most of them probably are biased and unfair, having observer the unceasing attacks on him, which you hypocritically deny, primarily by ignoring all proven supporting facts.

You may not be 100% ignorant of court function, but you’ve shown no evidence of understanding of it.

There’s nothing funny about your extreme bias in a time of such deep, destructive division, and your snarky deflection with your “that’s funny” and your “hahahahaha’s” are frankly disgusting.


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