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First, I have never said I was against the vaccines. So why would you think that I wouldn't follow the scientific guidelines?

Why do you keep bringing President Trump into every discussion? He had nothing to do with my getting the shots, other than fast tracking getting the vaccines to market by May 2021 as he promised and probably saving millions and millions of lives worldwide because of it. He should get a Nobel prize just for that.

As for my getting the shots, I answered your question long ago, but I'll answer it again because I guess you just didn't understand my answer.

I got my vaccine shots because I believe in being careful. I'm in some of the "at risk" categories so I weighed the choices and decided that getting the shots was less risky than not getting the shots. The thing you seem to miss is that I made that choice myself. I made that decision, not some bureaucrat in Washington.

I wear N95 masks for the same reason (not KN95, real N95 masks. I used to do a lot of woodworking and had bought a carton of them years before Covid hit) But I digress.... I do what I think is right for me, not because I'm told to do it by some politician. That's called FREEDOM, the thing you seem so eager to give up and the thing that you are trying to mock people that have died for it.

Do you understand now or do I need to elaborate more?

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Destroyer writes that I “ mock people who have died from Covid “
Just when you seem unable to spin my posts any further - you do it ! Wow !

FACTS
1. Trump mocked mask wearing ( not me). I’m triple vax’d and wear mask in public places.
2. Counties with greatest percentage of trump voters are very very unfortunately DYING as a 2-3 x greater percentage than BIDEN voters .
Reason is crystal clear ….they followed trump and other Republican disinformation .
There is NO other REAL reason .

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See? Again you mock my post. Lately almost everything I post you label as spin. You refuse to even think that you might be wrong and other people might actually be correct. Exactly where or what was I spinning Greene? You asked a question, I answered it politely, and to the best of my ability, and for that effort I got accused of spinning your post. So again I'll ask, in your opinion, exactly what did I spin? Please try to answer without an insult or an accusation. Thank you.

Oh, and for the umpteenth time I'll ask you, WHAT Republican disinformation? You've been asked several times by many people for an example, but so far you have evaded answering.

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You want to do good ? Post your own thread advising your fellow Republicans on this site to wear the masks and get the vaccines - for themselves , their families , and fellow Americans.

And here’s your link - which you’ll deny as always
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...misinformation

I'll neither deny nor agree with your link, since it does not provide the information you asserted, namely that people are dying at a higher rate because of Republican disinformation on Covid.

Your link merely publishes the results of a survey done by the Kaiser Family Foundation (whoever they are), and requires the reader to firstly believe that the 8 items they say are misinformation are true. Then it publishes the survey results broken down into Republican vs Democrat. However it does not publish what kind of a survey it was, not how many of each group were interviewed. Was it a weighted survey? and if so what weight ws given to each category?

So again I'll ask you, where and what is the proof of your statement that "Republican Disinformation" is causing the higher Covid deaths? For all we know, those higher deaths might be caused by the proven Democrat Disinformation that appeared on Left wing Democrat controlled media all throughout 2020 while they were trying to discredit President Trump and was presented right here in these forums.

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Deny deny deny - and spin with your little games such as request for “ weighted survey”
Meanwhile the hospital death records are proof .

No, the death records, if true, merely are proof of the ratio. They provide no proof of Republican disinformation. In fact, the ONLY disinformation I have seen is the Democrat disinformation that was posted here in these forums.

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Exercising their right to die from COVID you claim ?
Meanwhile FACT is doctors and nurses reporting these folk requesting the vaccine from their hospital beds - and unfortunately being told it’s too late .

Spin spin spin destroyer that’s nearly all you do - in past vulgar terms, past hysterics, now your professorial approach . It’s all mostly just spin, just like your hero - the lying cheating con man traitor LOSER Donald Orange make up face trump .

It was reported long, long (months) ago when the vaccine first came out about people asking for the vax too late. Very sad. They should never have believed those Democrats that told them to wait. They paid with their lives for Democrat lies.

Again, personal insults without any basis in fact. I asked politely for an answer and all we get in return is more of your witless remarks. Are you incapable of answering politely?

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Wrong again destroyer - the highest concentration of deaths from covid is occurring in the counties where people mostly voted for trump .
Trump the mask mocker loved seeing his mask less crowds even though he knew they were putting themselves at great COVID risk.
Meanwhile Biden wore the mask as example of doing the right thing for all.

Unless I misquote, you’ll never be more correct than me - never .
The reasons have nothing to do with ego or intelligence destroyer .
It’s because I track and support THE TRUTH and FACTS .

The truth and facts nearly always prevail destroyer - just like good over evil .
You’re on the wrong side, which is why you spin, minimize , and exaggerate in desperate effort to support the lying cheating con man traitor donald Trump.

This isn't about "sides" Greene. It's about what is and what isn't important. It doesn't matter if one side or the other is dying at a higher rate. What is important is that people are dying from a man made infection that was in part sponsored by Dr. Fauci's foundation and unleashed upon the world by a Chinese lab that has caused millions of people to die worldwide. THAT is what's important. All the rest is kaka.

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Spin destroyer ! Spin !! The Fauci connection was debunked as nothing impactful .

1. Covid had NOT been proven to have come from the lab.
2. COVID should NOT be about sides but trump and the republicans politicized it to such degree that the followers are winding up DYING as a greater percentage than Biden supporters

Mostly all you write now are excuses and denial .

STOP with the constant spin BS Greene I DO NOT spin. I'm trying very hard to be polite to you and just answer your comments as best as I can. The least you can do it try to do the same.

I never denied the ratio. I asked you several time to provide your proof of the fact it was caused by "Republican" disinformation. You HAVE NOT done so. All you do is keep repeating the ratio difference. We get that. Non vax people die more than vax people. Got it. Now, how about finally giving us the proof that it's been caused by "Republican" disinformation like you claim?

I mean, we've see the proof of Democrat disinformation right here in this thread.

As for your statement about Covid not being proven as coming from the China lab even the WHO is now saying that it's looking more and more like it did. It can never be proven of course since China refuses to let anyone near the lab and has destroyed most records. (Which makes you wonder why they would do that if they had nothing to hide)

And if you agree with me about my statement that Covid should not be about sides, WHY then do you keep bringing it up?

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Oh now you accept the FACT that counties of most densely populated trump voters are also DYING of COVID 2x-3x the rate of Biden supporters ? That’s good - I admit you’re accepting the truth on this one.
As to why this is - crystal clear and you know the answer. Some thing like this are so clear it doesn’t even require fur yet discussion. And of course ……you know it

What I don't know is WHY you keep thinking this is some kind of revelation, some kind of hard hitting point. (I have news for you,.... it's not) What does it matter if the ratio is 3 to 1 or 10 to 1 or more independents than democrats or more women than men? It's all just statistics, nothing more. People are going to believe what they want to believe and not you or I or anyone else is going to change their minds. It's a non-issue.

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Oh it’s a HUGE ISSUE that trump supporters are DYING at 2x -3x the rate of BIDEN supporters.
It’s because the trump supporters are following trump and his Republican disinformation campaign about covid right off the cliff !!!!!

That's YOUR opinion of course.

Still waiting for you to provide proof of your statement that it's "Republican" disinformation. Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting. Still waiting.....like always...

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It all gets back to the lying cheating con man traitor Donald Trump that you support to end our democracy .

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/23/10652...jan-6-election

Still waiting for you to provide proof of your statement that it's "Republican" disinformation. Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting. Still waiting.....like always...

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Keep waiting - you’re number 44,332 at the deli counter and the one person working is at number 3