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bgreene 11-27-2021 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245369)
First, "WE" do not know what you said about President Trump. YOU, and YOU alone, keep repeating your tired mantra that he is a lying cheating con man traitor.

Second, he never tried to "force" Georgia lawmakers to come up with votes for him. He did plead with them to look harder, but that's not illegal and hardly worth mentioning. Yet you still cling to it like it's some kind of holy grail for you.

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Wrong

Destroyer 11-29-2021 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245373)
Wrong

Whatever

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bgreene 11-29-2021 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245393)
Whatever

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Not “ whatever” my outline of how this happens completely accurate

Destroyer 11-30-2021 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245396)
Not “ whatever” my outline of how this happens completely accurate

Close perhaps, but what you said was: Quote:

"1. First ingredient…..economic discontent
Yup, we’ve got it with global inflation and of course gas prices

2. Create an enemy
Yup, trump did that very well and is continuing as most Republicans on office are too scared not to follow.

3. Stir the public to hate the so called enemy - rise against it, and bully through the system installing followers into the power positions .

4. Then…… it’s done, and our REAL freedoms would be subject to Trump rule only - no media against trump, no real political opposition , no more real elections.

Sounds like Natzi Germany once Hitler consolidated his power". Unquote

And what you should have said is:

1. First ingredient…..economic discontent
Yup, we’ve got it with global inflation and of course gas prices

2. Create an enemy
Yup, the far left Democrats and the left controlled media have done that very well and are continuing to mislead the public with lies, spin and misinformation.

3. Stir the public to hate the so called enemy - rise against it, and bully through the system installing followers into the power positions. For instance all the Democrat judges that are now letting criminals out all over the Nation (unless they are Republican).

4. Then…… it’s done, and our REAL freedoms would be subject to Democrat and Elite rich people rule only - no media against Democrats, just like right now, no real political opposition, no more real elections.

Sounds like Communist China and Communist Russia.


Also sounds like the Democrats are following Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals to the letter. Especially number 13, which is what they have done to President Trump for 5 years. If you don't know them, then here they are for your enlightenment.

1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
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bgreene 11-30-2021 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245425)
Close perhaps, but what you said was: Quote:

"1. First ingredient…..economic discontent
Yup, we’ve got it with global inflation and of course gas prices

2. Create an enemy
Yup, trump did that very well and is continuing as most Republicans on office are too scared not to follow.

3. Stir the public to hate the so called enemy - rise against it, and bully through the system installing followers into the power positions .

4. Then…… it’s done, and our REAL freedoms would be subject to Trump rule only - no media against trump, no real political opposition , no more real elections.

Sounds like Natzi Germany once Hitler consolidated his power". Unquote

And what you should have said is:

1. First ingredient…..economic discontent
Yup, we’ve got it with global inflation and of course gas prices

2. Create an enemy
Yup, the far left Democrats and the left controlled media have done that very well and are continuing to mislead the public with lies, spin and misinformation.

3. Stir the public to hate the so called enemy - rise against it, and bully through the system installing followers into the power positions. For instance all the Democrat judges that are now letting criminals out all over the Nation (unless they are Republican).

4. Then…… it’s done, and our REAL freedoms would be subject to Democrat and Elite rich people rule only - no media against Democrats, just like right now, no real political opposition, no more real elections.

Sounds like Communist China and Communist Russia.


Also sounds like the Democrats are following Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals to the letter. Especially number 13, which is what they have done to President Trump for 5 years. If you don't know them, then here they are for your enlightenment.

1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
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Masterpiece of nonsense

Destroyer 12-01-2021 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245428)
Masterpiece of nonsense

There are none so blind as those that will not see. You fit that proverb to a "T".

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bgreene 12-01-2021 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245446)
There are none so blind as those that will not see. You fit that proverb to a "T".

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Says the man who follows conspiracy theories with ZERO proof over the FACTS.

Destroyer 12-01-2021 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245449)
Says the man who follows conspiracy theories with ZERO proof over the FACTS.

Ummm... exactly what conspiracy theory are you talking about?

bgreene 12-01-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245466)
Ummm... exactly what conspiracy theory are you talking about?

Election fraud conspiracy theories McFly . Hello is anyone in there ?

Destroyer 12-02-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245470)
Election fraud conspiracy theories McFly . Hello is anyone in there ?


It's not an Election Fraud Conspiracy Theory. It's an open question as yet unanswered.
Since it has yet to be proven one way or the other, and in fact since the real truth will probably never be known it will remain an open question.
Can you imagine if it was ever proven that the Democrats actually committed election fraud using any of the methods I've outlined several times in various posts here? It would rip our Country apart. It would be the same as if it was proven that Obama not actually born in the USA, but in Kenya instead. (Even though both his Grandmother and his half brother swore that he was born in Kenya)
Everything that both of them (Obama and Biden) did, every law, every treaty, everything they did would be invalid. How would you go back and correct all those things? All those trillions of dollars wasted?
So it will remain a theory. Not disproven, but not proven either. And as such it's just an opinion and as I've said many times, everyone is entitled to their opinions. Even you Bgreene

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bgreene 12-03-2021 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245513)
It's not an Election Fraud Conspiracy Theory. It's an open question as yet unanswered.
Since it has yet to be proven one way or the other, and in fact since the real truth will probably never be known it will remain an open question.
Can you imagine if it was ever proven that the Democrats actually committed election fraud using any of the methods I've outlined several times in various posts here? It would rip our Country apart. It would be the same as if it was proven that Obama not actually born in the USA, but in Kenya instead. (Even though both his Grandmother and his half brother swore that he was born in Kenya)
Everything that both of them (Obama and Biden) did, every law, every treaty, everything they did would be invalid. How would you go back and correct all those things? All those trillions of dollars wasted?
So it will remain a theory. Not disproven, but not proven either. And as such it's just an opinion and as I've said many times, everyone is entitled to their opinions. Even you Bgreene

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“ as yet unanswered “ says destroyer .
Certification - no fraud
Audits - no fraud
Courts - no fraud

The big election fraud LIE perpetuated by the lying cheating con man traitor Donald trump.
He LOST the election by greater margin than when he beat Hillary Clinton - FACT

Destroyer 12-04-2021 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245538)
“ as yet unanswered “ says destroyer .
Certification - no fraud
Audits - no fraud
Courts - no fraud

The big election fraud LIE perpetuated by the lying cheating con man traitor Donald trump.
He LOST the election by greater margin than when he beat Hillary Clinton - FACT

That's your opinion, not mine.

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bgreene 12-04-2021 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245554)
That's your opinion, not mine.

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OPINIONS are NOT how our election works - FACTS are how we do things.
Even Al Gore who LOST by a fraction conceded in the end.
Trumps loss gap was rather large

Destroyer 12-05-2021 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245561)
OPINIONS are NOT how our election works - FACTS are how we do things.
Even Al Gore who LOST by a fraction conceded in the end.
Trumps loss gap was rather large

Not really. Look again at the electoral votes. Trump only needed 40 additional votes to beat Biden. That's hardly a mandate.

bgreene 12-05-2021 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245587)
Not really. Look again at the electoral votes. Trump only needed 40 additional votes to beat Biden. That's hardly a mandate.

Trump LOST

Destroyer 12-06-2021 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245596)
Trump LOST

Yep, he lost a rigged election. 2024 will come around soon enough.

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bgreene 12-06-2021 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245608)
Yep, he lost a rigged election. 2024 will come around soon enough.

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Keep dreaming - and waiting - a nice long wait for you to stew because the lying cheating con man traitor trump lost the election.
Whhahaha whahaha and keep crying about it

Destroyer 12-07-2021 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245621)
Keep dreaming - and waiting - a nice long wait for you to stew because the lying cheating con man traitor trump lost the election.
Whhahaha whahaha and keep crying about it

Boy, are you in for a shock.... :you:

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bgreene 12-07-2021 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245653)
Boy, are you in for a shock.... :you:

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No - our great American democracy may be in for a shock if trump or trump power takes over our nation. Say goodbye to freedoms of truth , justice and our American ways.
Say goodbye to fair elections
Say goodbye to freedom of press
Say hello to crack downs on non supporters
Say hello to dictatorship

Destroyer 12-08-2021 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245669)
No - our great American democracy may be in for a shock if trump or trump power takes over our nation. Say goodbye to freedoms of truth , justice and our American ways.
Say goodbye to fair elections
Say goodbye to freedom of press
Say hello to crack downs on non supporters
Say hello to dictatorship


Ummm....ya, whatever..

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bgreene 12-08-2021 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245725)
Ummm....ya, whatever..

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Destroyer says “ whatever “ about what makes our country great and special.
You deserve to live under a dictator.

Destroyer 12-08-2021 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245742)
Destroyer says “ whatever “ about what makes our country great and special.
You deserve to live under a dictator.

Really? Why?

bgreene 12-09-2021 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245771)
Really? Why?

My thread ref how some dictators take over is spot on - including what Trump attempted to do likewise .

Destroyer 12-10-2021 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245812)
My thread ref how some dictators take over is spot on - including what Trump attempted to do likewise .

Mmm .... and you really believe that?

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bgreene 12-10-2021 05:34 AM

The Republican Party is working to create policies and insert people into voting management positions so as to claim victory REGARDLESS of actual voting results.

It’s happening right now if you read the TRUTH in the news.

You and others will react with glee - at first until you realize we’re no longer a democracy.
You’ll then just be a part of the guilty party .

Destroyer 12-11-2021 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245847)
The Republican Party is working to create policies and insert people into voting management positions so as to claim victory REGARDLESS of actual voting results.

It’s happening right now if you read the TRUTH in the news.

You and others will react with glee - at first until you realize we’re no longer a democracy.
You’ll then just be a part of the guilty party .

Oh, you mean like the Democrats have been doing for the last few decades? Inserting people in Judgeships, Teachers, Professors, Media Moguls, In short trying to stack the deck?
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bgreene 12-11-2021 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245889)
Oh, you mean like the Democrats have been doing for the last few decades? Inserting people in Judgeships, Teachers, Professors, Media Moguls, In short trying to stack the deck?
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That doesn’t make it right that our democracy may be ended by trump and his Republican cronies . Our democracy has worked till trump started to try and eliminate it

Destroyer 12-11-2021 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245899)
That doesn’t make it right that our democracy may be ended by trump and his Republican cronies . Our democracy has worked till trump started to try and eliminate it

I believe you have that backwards. Trump tried to stop the takeover of our Democracy by the Democrats who have and continue to stack the deck with liberal far left people that are hell bent of destroying our Country.

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bgreene 12-13-2021 03:33 PM

Loss of our democracy by trump as tyrant leader would be tied to strong nationalism - to keep it stirred up .

Flags would become more commonly placed on buildings - first more government buildings, then “encouraged “ to be placed at businesses across America .

Then flags with patriots symbols would be “ encouraged “ at our homes……..with non participants steady pressured to comply or face negative pressure .

Look at China and other oppressive regimes as example
Among the worst of course, North Korea where pictures of Kim J are mandatory.

By the time your children and grand children say they want to support others in government it will be too late.

Be strong, be brave, put our democracy ABOVE the goals of the dictator wanna be con man traitor trump and his cronies .

Pipe_Dream 12-14-2021 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 245934)
Loss of our democracy by trump as tyrant leader would be tied to strong nationalism - to keep it stirred up .

Flags would become more commonly placed on buildings - first more government buildings, then “encouraged “ to be placed at businesses across America .

Then flags with patriots symbols would be “ encouraged “ at our homes……..with non participants steady pressured to comply or face negative pressure .

Look at China and other oppressive regimes as example
Among the worst of course, North Korea where pictures of Kim J are mandatory.

By the time your children and grand children say they want to support others in government it will be too late.

Be strong, be brave, put our democracy ABOVE the goals of the dictator wanna be con man traitor trump and his cronies .

:you:

bgreene 12-14-2021 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream (Post 245947)
:you:

You laugh because you’re not a student of history


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