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Here ya go, it's not quite a 20 footer but it's a nice rig. From what I understand, it's very popular among fly-fishermen.

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/4/1/79243241.htm

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Tin - Look into a 20ft Seacraft CC. There are several used 20's in that price range with newer four storkes.

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LMAO

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I know you're not crazy about the 14* deadrise, but I've been on one of these powered by a F115 Yammi. Not a rough ride considering the deadrise and very economical. Lots of room. Flyfishing friendly. Depending on power options, might be just a tad more than the $18k though. I think from $20-25k? ??? Not sure.


http://www.hydrasports.com/Boats/Boa...id=99&sn=2

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I swear if I have to pull this car over!!!!! ::) ;D

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Hey Tin this would be the perfect boat for you and it has little draft, deck drain, floation and a new2004 4 stroke Suzuki and New 2004 Five Starr Trailer 20' Sea Ox in NY

Click Here to see the Sea Ox
http://images.traderonline.com/img/6...81153177_2.jpg

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Or Click Here to see a CC it is a nice one 23'
http://images.traderonline.com/img/6...75447397_1.jpg

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Yup, seen that one already :)

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I'm surprised no comment about the Cat Boats from you Tin, have you checked them out

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I HAD AN OLD SEAOX 20' CC - RODE WET AND HARD - THATS GOOD IF YOUR RIDING A SUPER MODEL - MY MCKEE IS SOFTER - AND NOT AS WET

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Yea willy, the cat hulls do fill my requirements. I have a friend in FL with a 19' er and got kind of a bad taste from his ride. His boat actually lists to the opposite side when making a turn! Took some getting used to. Is that the norm? I don't think so??? His is a Shoal Cat. They're kinda pricey too.

I've heard good things about the Twin Vee 20' Outrageous. When you move up to the 22' it uses twin o/b's. I could probably get a 6 or so year old 20'er with a 2 stroke for the same as the new Panga. I havn't ruled them out yet.

I talked to a guy today about a 21' Parker. Yes it has a 14* deadrise so it won't be the smoothest in a chop, but will be pretty stable driftin the rips. A lot of guides and FF around the Nor East swear by this hull. There is no raised platform fwd, which is nice, don't have to worry about losing a client in the drink. That's the reason I'd like to stay away from a bay boat. It's better to saltwater fly fish
in the boat rather than on the boat, I'm talking in the rougher stuff not necessarily the flats, They are definately pricey and it would be an older hull with a 2 stroke for now.

I also talked today with a semi local Marina that has a 70's vintage Sea Craft 20, hull only for 2g's, says it only needs cosmetics, but doubt that! But if it WAS solid I could put on a new 4 stroke Johnnie/Suzie and a new trailer and be in my price range. I may look at that one tomorrow.


edit: I guess leaning to the opposite you are turning is the norm for cat hulls. Just found this:

Banking ("Leaning" for some)
The lateral attitude of a vessel, applicable to moving vehicles as well. V-hull boats, bicycles, and motorcycles bank into a turn. Powered catamarans on the other hand, are more similar to cars. They tend to bank out of the turn, and it takes a little getting used to! If you think of your cat as riding a bus standing up, it's the same idea.

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You have the layout I'm looking for! The whole deck is level, right? But you can get up on the fore deck in the calmer seas, flush mount cleats and pop up bow light too. 18* deadrise to boot! I want your boat!

Here you go!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/196.jpg

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The Twin Vee is one of the ones I was on, they do handle with a different feel Tin, sort of flatter thru the turns and from what I understand that depends on whether single or twin engine also. It wasn't as exagerated as that hull you described but I did feel it and got very comfortable with it quick. I'll tell what else I felt, or rather didn't feel, no slamming thru chop no hard bounce in bigger stuff and we drifted arcoss a sand bar just inches deep. And drier than I thought it could be. Only problem I saw was trailering, it has to be a special style but other than that gets my vote as the only really do everything well hull.

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Willy, I agree about the ride. Everyone I read about that has a cat hull swears they will never go back to a monohull again!

I'd love to get the 22'er with twins but big bucks for me right now.

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Hmmmm...lookie what I found! It's not the Outrageous hull, it's the Bay model w/90 Honda.

http://www.boatshoppermagazine.com//...FromSearch=Yes

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That boat is 2 miles down the road from me! I looked at it a few weeks ago, love the motor! But not into the dual console layout.

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Hey Tin, I'm sure you already know, But if you check the links section of this site you'll find one for the classic Seacraft site. You may want to read some of the info there before going to look at that Seacraft

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Look what this guide is using...I like that!


http://capttomhughes.com/My_Boat/22_..._Catamaran.htm

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Thanks for the tip, Mulv. I'm at that site daily too. I've done my research on those. :) I know almost all the older hulls need attention, IE: transoms, soft floors, poor deck drainage, 20" transoms. But they are such great hull!

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Tin that 22 footer is the one I was on for about 30 minute ride in Barnegat Bay. Superb. I love that winged enclosure for the CC's. I know some of the others like world cat are very pricey but I've seen a lot of good used ones, that 20 footer with a single 90 honda will fly fully loaded and SiiiiiiiiiiP gas. I just have a feeling that I had to say it too you, with the parameters you listed I think it's the only way to go. At least keep it in mind and I won't have to worry about you 40 miles off shore in a Panga ;D

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Thanks for the compliment Tin, I really love my new boat. I shopped from Cocoa Beach to Stuart, I looked at everything and for the money I spent I'm tickled. And she runs her *** off too. I've been a shade over 50 on the GPS. Only changes I'm gonna make are swapping the seats for a leaning post and maybe a T-top - I like idea of a second cooler and storage under the cushion.
I;m not sure about the t-top - when Willy came down and fished with me, 3 of us could fish and cast from anywhere in the boat - not sure I wanna give that up. If I didn't have the console space I have, I would have wanted it to mount the electronics. But everything fits neatly. I use a handheld VHF for 2 reasons - I stay pretty much close to the beach or in the river so range is not an issue - and I didn't want to maout a big antenna on the console. If I put a t-top on the boat that wouldn't be an issue. But thats one expensive ant. mount. Hey Tin, I'm about 20 minutes away from the Vee Twin factory, they are on Hwy US 1 just south of me - here is a pic of the console on my McKee Craft
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67...o/6f39a9d0.jpg
and the forward deck and storage area
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67...o/258292fe.jpg
Transom shot
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67...o/55abc95b.jpg

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Franco, very nice! Congratz! As much as I like them, I too would not want the t-top for casting reasons. Your console is perfect, love the flush mounted electronics. Ever think of installing trim tabs? Those Lenco Troll n' Tabs are supposed to be awesome but cost a fortune.

I've heard nothing but good about the Mckee crafts. A local guide out this way just got the 24' Freedom for offshore flyfishing and uses a 17' Mako on the flats.

You've got some great fishing down your way. Several years ago I caught a 35" Snook off the North Jetty at Sebastian inlet mid day on light tackle...1" too big! Do you know if a guy named Tom still runs the bait shop there? I hear they spent a lot of money on that jetty but have not seen it since.

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Hey Tin, come on down and fish some time, always room in my boat!!! Tom still works at the tackle shop. I don't know him well, but he is good friends with my brother. I have a set of Volvo QL series trim tabs, but can use them - they are a unique setup - electric - and I cant access space to run the wiring harness due to the hull being foam filled. Those lencos are interesting but cost a ton, you'd have to give up one Norton for a set. I really haven't been in a situation where tabs would have been that much of a help. Only if someone is moving from side to side in the boat, then I just tell them to sit their *** down somewhere. It comes out of the hole pretty well and planes very quickly. I'm gonna put the Volvo tabs on ebay if you know anyone interested.

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Hey Franco, I may take you up on the offer. I was thinking of heading down for bike week, although I'm bikeless as of now :( I've got a buddy in New Smyrna who I was talking to yesterday who is trying to get me down too who also has a boat. Maybe I'll wait a little longer, like when the Rays are cruising up the coast, love that cobia fishing! Snook, Reds and Specs not too bad either!

I'll have to see how work is going but think it will be doable. I'm trying to coincide this with buying a boat down there if I can't find what I want up here for the price I want. How is the fishing in March around you? I think it's a little early for Rays north of you but maybe not around Sebastian's. I'll have to do some research.

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probably the worse time to fish here is july and august - typically too hot - but it has more opprutunities than most places. What are you looking for in a boat, *have a buddy that has a V20 cc with a 200 merc on the back, low hours and I think you could get a good deal on it


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67.../100_01162.jpg

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Arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh!

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Panga's traditionally have nearly no deadrise (flat bottom) at the transom. This is by design so they can plane with little HP and can be towed/pushed up and down the beach by truck (no trailer).

Don't confuse pangas with long narrow cigarette style deepv-hull's with a 24 degree deadrise at the transom. They are not even close to the same boat. Offshore racing style boats can handle the nasty offshore conditions at speeds where pangas will fall apart.

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I'd tow that boat up to NC and sell it!!

Carolina boats ARE the way to go...but remember some of the good old boys in Wanchese run Wellcraft v-20's out to the blue water for tuna! I have heard some of the boat builders have taken measurments off the wellcraft v-20 hull and modified it for the biggerboats.

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even if it were not true, I like the way it sounds therefore, I reject your reality and substitute this one

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Franco, one of things that I don't like on the 80's+ V20 cc's is the upper fore deck. I like the older style much better, much more room to stand on and sight cast and it doesn't have the funky raised lip, which I think is ugly but probably serves a purpose. The only problem is I really don't feel like gettting a 30+ year old un-restored boat. See the difference. I like the lines of the older boat more.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/73v20.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/81v20.jpg

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Tinman:

Let's recap

You said earlier you wanted a complete package for around 18K. You also said you like the older CC vice the newer ones. Well, I have your answer! Buy my 74 CC for 18K (and yes - I'll even through in the electronics and trailer. I'm just that kind of guy - want to make sure you get the complete package and all ;D) and I'll buy Francos buddies CC for 4 K and bank the rest. :-)



Kamikaze

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Hey Tin,
I see what you mean - the older one is more like a bad-*** flats boat with lotsa open deck space. Real clean especially without that lip all the way around. I didn't realize the difference in the front part of the deck being raised a little more. That is a great design

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KK, you'll have to buy a trailer ,then bank the rest

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They both look sweet to me, I like the lines and flotation of the later years, been on the 80's deck, would have no problem fly fishing from one.