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bradford 03-30-2011 10:59 AM

All these years we've thought MJ was wind talking, come to find out he's just Australian.

aussie 03-30-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bradford (Post 170457)
All these years we've thought MJ was wind talking, come to find out he's just Australian.

ok who is MJ and now is it my turn

jaysea 04-05-2011 12:50 AM

hi, im still running a 470 in my v 20, ive done a few things over the years an the thing you might add as i did is a set of roller rocker arms , i found them on ebay a few years ago from a ford 460ci engine, they were made by crane cams , they made that ticking noise go away

Destroyer 04-05-2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by aussie (Post 170483)
ok who is MJ and now is it my turn

MJ is short for MacoJoe, the owner of this website. :beer:

macojoe 04-05-2011 09:57 AM

:hi:

aussie 04-05-2011 06:00 PM

its not that bad being a aussie MJ

macojoe 04-05-2011 07:34 PM

never said it was:head::head:

aussie 04-05-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by macojoe (Post 170915)
never said it was:head::head:

well Bradford said u are

aussie 04-05-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bradford (Post 170457)
All these years we've thought MJ was wind talking, come to find out he's just Australian.

ok they way i took this that bradford is saying aussies r full of wind correct me if im wrong:oh:

bradford 04-06-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aussie (Post 170918)
ok they way i took this that bradford is saying aussies r full of wind correct me if im wrong:oh:

Proving my point...

MJ has been accused of windtalking do to the fact that sometimes you have to carefully decode his posts to understand what the hell he's talking about. The name Windtalker comes from a movie about Native Americans who were used to encode or decode secret messages in the military. Translating Crocodile Dundee/Outback Steakhouse into Yankee/Redneck/Good Ole Boy and back again I find very similar.

Don't worry Aussie, you're not full of wind, you're just windtalking. :beer:

aussie 04-06-2011 05:53 PM

this is one of my main problems to much difference in the slang i think i might be better in a aussie forum @MJ how do i leave this forum yhere seems to be nothing in the cp to do it with i hope im not a prisoner with and u yanks

Destroyer 04-07-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by aussie (Post 170961)
this is one of my main problems to much difference in the slang i think i might be better in a aussie forum @MJ how do i leave this forum yhere seems to be nothing in the cp to do it with i hope im not a prisoner with and u yangs

Why do you have to leave? Several members, myself included, are members of other websites also. If you really wanted to leave, just stop coming here. People come and go all the time. But I really don't understand why you would want to leave. No one's attacked you in any way. As far as I can see everyone's always tried to be helpful with any questions you've had. Yes, there is a language problem sometimes, but it's not really a big problem. I, for one, enjoy your company. and I'm sure I speak for the majority of people here.

aussie 04-07-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 171004)
Why do you have to leave? Several members, myself included, are members of other websites also. If you really wanted to leave, just stop coming here. People come and go all the time. But I really don't understand why you would want to leave. No one's attacked you in any way. As far as I can see everyone's always tried to be helpful with any questions you've had. Yes, there is a language problem sometimes, but it's not really a big problem. I, for one, enjoy your company. and I'm sure I speak for the majority of people here.

THANKS ADVICE TAKEN :beer:

aussie 04-09-2011 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by spareparts (Post 169955)
Aussie, build that motor back stock. Don't raise the compresion any above fatory. They had issues with preigniton back when we had good gas and revised the spark timing back 4 degress. Leave the cam alone, use a good rocker system. The performer head is a good idea, you won't have dissimular expansion rates like the cast iron head to aluminum block. You may have to increase the size of the heat exchanger to handle the increased heat transfer from teh aluminumhead. Recurving the distributor isn't going to help as most of the total timing is in before you get to cruising rpm, increasing the curve below planning speed can cause preignition. Buy those other two motors you had listed, use the 4bbl intake and oil cooler off of one of those. Put a pertronix igniton in the distributor and a 1 step colder plugs. You will be happy at the peformance with the 3.7 in its stock form. If you want to go faster, put a V8 in the boat. Most of the mods you have listed will work great if the engine was in a car, but in a boat, you will have longevity issues, along with peaky peformance(especially with a heavy boat like a V), don't try to turn the motro any higher than 5000 rpm, the drives don't like high rpm. You'd be surprised how well the boat will perform in stock good condition. I understand your desire to build it bigger and better, but I don't think you are going to get the return from your time and money you are looking for with this combo.

well it will be stock in the sense of camshaft and the comp is 10.1 only makinf it breath better and raise its tork

spareparts 04-09-2011 11:45 AM

Sounds like you are on the right track. use the KISS method, Keep It Simple Stupid, or the way I usually do it, Keep It Stupid Simple. BTW, if you go to the machine shop with this motor, have them look at the cam shaft bores. One of the issues with the 3.7 motors is they loose oil pressure after they get hot. the problem is the cam rides directly in the block, no cam bearings. There is a service replacement cam bearing that has to installed by a machine shop(cam bore has to be overboared then new bearings installed). Might be worth checking into see you're going this far

aussie 04-09-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spareparts (Post 171145)
Sounds like you are on the right track. use the KISS method, Keep It Simple Stupid, or the way I usually do it, Keep It Stupid Simple. BTW, if you go to the machine shop with this motor, have them look at the cam shaft bores. One of the issues with the 3.7 motors is they loose oil pressure after they get hot. the problem is the cam rides directly in the block, no cam bearings. There is a service replacement cam bearing that has to installed by a machine shop(cam bore has to be overboared then new bearings installed). Might be worth checking into see you're going this far

well thanks thats good to no i havent pulled the block out yet so they run the cam directly on the block like ohc engines well the oil pressure was good on the engine but will measure the bores of the cam to see how much clearance and i hope there not worn the could put a a big expense on the engine well thanks for that info i wouldnt even of checked them

aussie 04-10-2011 03:31 PM

hi guys i have decided to cut the end of the camshaft off and plug the hole in the timing cover and run a electric water pump and the fuel pump is going too replaced with a electric one

spareparts 04-10-2011 07:15 PM

no reason to do that and you'll only complicate issues, , you'll never notice the difference in hp and only introduce another item to fail.

see the KISS method outlined above

aussie 04-10-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spareparts (Post 171215)
no reason to do that and you'll only complicate issues, , you'll never notice the difference in hp and only introduce another item to fail.

see the KISS method outlined above

its not for power fuel pumps for these engine arent cheap and i dont think u can buy new ones and u can how long will it take for me to get one a electric pump i would have it on the same day and for the price of one i would more and likely keep a cheap one in the boat as back up and for the water pump i want to elimanate ever having water in the oil from a seal leakage and all new engine run alot of things with electric and how much more load does the water pump put on the timing chain well i dont like the idea so its going to be changed these pumps r that expensive

aussie 04-10-2011 07:41 PM

this is the water pump
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqIOKjY...,624w~~_12.JPG

aussie 04-10-2011 07:44 PM

fuel pump
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...rt-p4070_w.jpg

aussie 04-10-2011 07:47 PM

this will be a $30.00 back up pump

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sel...2/FED40104.jpg

Destroyer 04-11-2011 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aussie (Post 171221)

I like the idea of a back-up pump.. Good thinking!! :clap:

aussie 04-12-2011 05:44 PM

500 cfm for $ 100
 
500cfmhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqUOKiE...y8f-!~~_12.JPG

aussie 04-12-2011 05:58 PM

$30.00 off ebay
 
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqUOKpI...NYy9g~~_12.JPG

Genie Aye 04-14-2011 02:15 AM

personally--if I was going to have a back up fuel pump---

It would not be that one--I would have a extra Carter pump===it would only take a couple minutes to replace it if it dies---the pump you are showing for back up---I have found to be NO good---just my experiance with them.

Also--I would set the floats a bit low to be ready for ruff conditions out in the waters. Edelbrocks can flood out in a rear or forward condition of force--like crossing bars that are rough.

Personally I like Quadrajets--Just my .02:hi:

aussie 04-14-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Genie Aye (Post 171441)
personally--if I was going to have a back up fuel pump---

It would not be that one--I would have a extra Carter pump===it would only take a couple minutes to replace it if it dies---the pump you are showing for back up---I have found to be NO good---just my experiance with them.

Also--I would set the floats a bit low to be ready for ruff conditions out in the waters. Edelbrocks can flood out in a rear or forward condition of force--like crossing bars that are rough.

Personally I like Quadrajets--Just my .02:hi:

well ill keep that in mind when i do a test run its true what u r saying thanks

aussie 05-07-2011 11:36 PM

hi should have some more cash at the end of the month to spend my old boat will be on ebay soon ill post some pics of her and there has been a hold up on the parts from summit ordering 8 roller rockers is a specail order same as the tall valve cover i will post pics of the parts when i get them

aussie 05-17-2011 01:01 AM

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aussie 05-17-2011 01:03 AM

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aussie 05-17-2011 01:10 AM

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