first of Sarah Palin already has commander-in-chief experience as governor of Alaska. Obama has been a community organizer.... oooooooo! He's never been a leader.....of anything....period! Secondly, No crap, I copied and pasted it, big deal, if you wanted me to say it my own words you should have asked. And last of all, you sir have NOT answered my question yet.... are you still trying to find something??? I guess I'll be waiting a REALLLLLLY long time for that answer.


Oh, and one more thing, try looking up the Webster's definiton of racist. He didn't say that his race was better, and Islam is not a race, it's just a religion. Sooooo that can hardly be a racist question. Now, what was I saying earlier about college morons???? Answer me how his question was racist???

I'll give you one of Bush's atta boys. He went into Afghanistan after 9/11 but he never got Bin Laden. He should have asked McCain how to get him and I hope Obama asks John how to get him. Then Bush had an aw Shi- and it wiped out his atta boy. he went into Irac to get the guy that tried to get his Daddy. He lied to us. Billy Mac :beer:

Racism is the word that was used so I used the same word. Technically prejudice would be a batter choice of word. Referring to someone as a lying racist muslim is a derogatory prejudice thing to say. It is all about the context. If you believe he is a liar, fine. A racist fine....but when you add Muslim to it......oh and when did Obama become Muslim again?...it becomes a prejudice statement. To use another example, to refer to a person as a J ew is fine on it's own as this is the proper term for some who practices Judaism. But to call someone a cheap J ew or similar it is used in a derogatory fashion. The intent is clear.

My point about the website quote was not that you didn't use your own words but when asked what good things Bush had done you didn't know any so you had to go looking.

I didn't realize I was supposed to be answering a question but if you want to know what Bush has done wrong ask any of the 80% of the country who disapprove of the job he has done. If you really want an answer from me let's start with the nearly $600 billion spent in Iraq so far. Really I shouldn't have to go any further than that. All the talk of national security but what happened to Osama bin Laden and al Queda? Oh yeah, the Bush administration got sidetracked in Iraq. Was it Iraq who attacked the US on 9/11? Next is the disaster that is disaster relief. The Bush administration failed badly after Hurricane Katrina. He cut funding for renewable energy research, ignored global warming issues and increased the national debt to a staggering amount. I know, it's all Clinton's fault, right?

I would not have a serious issue with John McCain being elected President (and I certainly wouldn't be going around slandering him) but I would have a serious issue with Sarah Palin. Commander-in-chief experience??? Is she in charge of the Alaskan army? She governs one of the least populated states in the country but she is no commander-in-chief. Did you watch any of her interviews? Really? You'd be OK with her as President if McCain could not serve? The US would be a laughing stock. Picking Palin was a mistake...with Mitt Romney McCain might have won.

I'm all for healthy debate over the candidates and issues but most of what I have read is slanderous derogatory statements including "baby killer", "morons" and "lying racist Muslim". I will have nothing more to say on the matter after this. Feel free to have the last word... :beer:

a few points and I am done with this myself, because quite frankly what this country has done on Nov. 4th was put someone who repeatedly lied to America into office. They fell victim to a contrived media assault, a media that has a extremely liberal agenda.
Sara Palin quite frankly is one of us, she is from humble beginiings, took her concern for how poor government was being run, how unethical it acted and started a life of trying to do something about it and ended up being the most popular govenor in this country because of it. She is from a lightly populated state and her experiece is being a govenor. So? Bill Clinton was from a very small state, his international experiece, none. What was the real diference between the two, he was a left wing sh!tbird so he got a pass on all the history of illegal real estate deals, mysterious deaths of people assosiated with him, screwing around with multiple women while in office, being a general a$$hole. Why? Because he was a liberal and the press took care of him.
Sara Palin on the other hand went thru a disgraceful onslaught from the Obama cohorts and the media in general. Something that told me two things, one, this country will tolerate anything if it is liberal based and two, journalism in this country is DEAD. We now have a agenda based propaganda machine.
That same propaganda machine just fooled many millions of people into thinking that a man who is the most liberal senator in the history of the senate will be the right thing for this country. That a man who has a very long history of assosiations with radical racists, with murderers and terrorists, who voted present on almost every major vote as an Ill. Senator,a man who has ZERO, ZIP experience running any kind of organization period, who has an agenda of taking money from people who have earned it and giving it to people who either won't or can't earn it is OK with them and it should be OK with us.
A great many people thinking that they were doing something in a rebuke of how things were done under Bush, people who had other candidates they could have picked from on every ballot in this country pulled the lever for a walking piece of garbage.
You guys know I love you all but when it comes to what just happened, I have got to say that if you pulled the lever for a socialist in this great country you were fools. And we are all going to pay for this tragedy in the long run.
I wash my hands of any further talk of this creep we now have in office, you can call him president if you want but I do not recognize any socialist as a president of this country. It is not because I am bitter as some have said, it is not because he is a black man, as anyone who knows me can atest to, it is simply because I am a freedom loving, constitution loving American who believes in the right of any individual to achieve what he strives for and reap the rewards of. Anything else is socialism plain and simple, and I will not be a party to it.

bravo willy! well said!
and if i must be the last word whale, then here you go. we all know he lied to america over and over during his campaign. not just the regular campaign promise bullsh!t but out and out lies.

lier; his uncle was among the first troops to liberate auschwits death camp.
wrong. not only did his uncle never serve a day of his life in the military but american troops were not among the first troops into the deathcamp.
not the only example.

racist; he sat in the church of the "honorable" rev. jerimiah wright, for 20 years, who spewed racial hatred, and called this man his spiritual advisor, but when the reverends poison came to light, he quickly dis-associated himself with this pile of dogsh!t, claiming he must have been absent from church "that day". i'm sure this white hating pile only spewed his poison when mr obama was noticeably absent.
BULLSH!T!

muslim; i saw, with my own two eyes, an interview between obama and stephanopoulis where he said, and i quote, "john mccain doesnt embrace my muslim faith". george had to correct him by saying "christian faith" to which obama responded "yes my christian faith".

so by all means, label me a racist or anything else you would like but i've seen it and heard it.
this guy is a lying racist muslim.
and as willy so eloquently put it, he's your president, not mine.
enjoy him.

Well played Willy!!!!:clap: I agree 110%
I try to stay out of politics on this and many other sites, so I usually very quiet about my opinions. I will say that you have expressed my exact thoughts though.

I didn't take issue with McCain but Palin was the deciding factor. Her interviewing skills and ability to respond under fire (without a script like the debate) was terrible.

Whether or not this is true, this just makes me laugh. Africa's a country right???
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_141653.html

-Svence

Although the stories about her answering the door in just a towel kind of make me like her more ;)

OK, heres a question ot ponder, looking at the cnn break down, it appears that the female vote was a major deciding factor on voting Obama in, do ya'll think maybee Palin was a little too good looking? A bit intimidating for American women?

I was tempted this year to vote with the little known hidden button.

If you do not like any of the candidates (they all lie with a straight face)
there is a little button that people are not educated on
and you will find it somewhere on your ballot,
it reads " I choose not to vote for any candidate or issue on this ballot"
just imagine if 75% of the U.S. (or even 66%) would vote that way,
I am not sure of the ruling, but I think they would have to start all over again.


Oh yeah, Spare, you may be on to something.

Willy - no disrespect - even though you just disrespected me and the majority of the nation but to call someone a fool is an easy thing to do. I could be calling all of you fools for rallying behind McCain and Palin. What would that buy me? All of my close real life friends are republicans and STILL are my very dear friends because we respect one another.

We've been called "mindless sheep" now "fools." May I ask how many times I have resorted to name calling even though I disagree with your position? At the onset of this thing I stated that I respect EVERYONE's opinion no matter what. Why shouldn't we respect each other? We all come from different walks of life with different life experiences. The beauty of humanity is diversification. No two people look or think alike. Think if we did how sh*tty it would be. Think if you went to the WET thread and every chick looked exactly the same. :hi:

Would I acknowledge McCain if he had been elected? YES, just as I did PRESIDENT Bush. It saddens me to see folks say they won't acknoledge thier new president when the very mantra of the McCain camp was "Country First." Now McCain followers are disprespecting thier country. Shamefully ironic if you ask me.

And now, this "foolish, mindless, moronic college educated sheep" is going back to work. Toodles.

All I have to say is yuck, this morning's ranting from the losing side in this election is making me sick. You have shown no respect for those who have views different from yours, and you are now showing no respect for the very man you wanted in the white house. The honorable Mr. McCain's eloquent call to stand united is being ignored by those of you who now will not even acknowledge your country's president elect. I said it yesterday, and I will part on this distasteful subject by saying it again; shame on you.

I respect the president elect, I would not want to walk into the mess
that he has to handle.

My only hope is that, Pres. Obama, Congress and Senate, all think through
carefully the ramifications of their actions.

Everyone, including so called trusted analists, have said that any changes will take a long time,
I think they forget that when Bush came into office, with a stroke of a pen,
he undid many good things that Clinton put in place and we saw the changes almost immediatly.

Yeah...where have we all heard before?.."believe what I believe or you'll surely go to hell..."...there's just no tolerance from the people who say they want freedom of speech, until they disagree w/ what you say...:fight:...and then you're labeled a "fool"...

i'll fall behind President elect Obama, because if John Mac would have won i would have expected everyone to fall behind him. I will follow unless he and our elected officials start taking rights away from me. I can always make more money, but once a freedom is lost its usuall never gained back.

Our new President elect, ha The idiots in Washington ought to be ashamed. But I guess people who have never served in the military section of the govt in any capacity that required a security clearance wont be able to understand!!!

One of the reasons this guy wasn't on any commitees in the senate is because he couldn't hold a security clearance due to his association with known govt terrorist muslim groups.

His lack of ability to get a security clearance wouldn't let him hold a job as:

a guide in the White House
a page in the house or senate
any post or member of a commitee that dealt with any govt information such as: troop population numbers, troop/ship/plane movement.

In short anything more than law writing or rewriting laws.

We had other senators such as him with the same problem and they didn't last but 1 term due to their lack of clearance for sensitive issues. When the people of their state became aware they weren't reelected.

Now we have a person who has known association to muslim terrorist groups holding office where he will be privy to ALL sensitive info.

This I believe is the start of the end of our national security secrets from the rest of the world. He will tell or attempt to tell sensitive information to the rest of the world as he has already stated, he would have communication with these same terrorist groups when there are guidelines set forth that no american communicate with or if contacted by they must report it to the FBI. He has said he would do this without clearing it or notifying the proper govt agency first.

This is not a report from a anti Obama person venting but a report on what I know to be fact from direct affiliation with the govt section.

I'm done with this: anyone may comment but I will not respond to favorable or negative comments to this thread.

Right now I've got a few words for some of our brothers and sisters in the occupied zone: "the chair is against the wall, the chair is against the wall"

Confused? Visit the website of my local sports collective:

http://www.leicester.k12.ma.us/LHS/sports.html

The reason for all the passionate comments on here is due simply to love of this great country. A love that runs deep, and when we see things happening to our country that we know in our hearts and soul to be detramental to ALL of us, we get frustrated and upset. I'll appologize if I pissed anybody off, or offended anybody, but as someone said earlier, we do have freedom of speech, so I don't HAVE to appologize. With that being said, both sides throw mud, one side just does it in a more passive-aggressive way than the other. I know all my friends that are serving in the forces right now are all worried about pay cuts, and drawbacks, my family members are looking for other vehicles for their retirement monies, and my parents and aunts and uncles that own companies have already been forced to lay-off workers and cut back hours. I'll end with this... Thank you to Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and the rest of the Democrat elite that shun us regular folks while preaching that we need to do more for the less fortunate, when republicans give more money to REAL charities than any of them give to their government sponsored charities. I will be okay because I am such a hard worker, and I am smart with my investments. I will not require a "bailout", "handout", or anything else "my" government wants to "GIVE" me. No thanks, keep it. I'll always support my troops and those that protect and defend us, abroad and domestically. I will never support a president that supports socialist and Marxist ideals. I can do this just the same way as some have not stood behind Bush, so I don't want to hear that I'm unpatriotic. The Bush-bashers said they were'nt un-patriotic, so neither am I. I am done with this thread as I think everyone else should be too. Reply if you like, I will read it, but won't reply. Fin..