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spareparts 03-26-2008 07:52 PM

i had a 120 on my Mitchell, ran great, but I had one problem with it that I could never figure out, had the same problem on a freinds 120 also. At idle, I could never get it to hit even on all four, you could pull the plug wires and the cylinders would drop different amounts, # 4 wouldn't even make hardly any difference, went thru the carbs numerous times, set the linkages per the manual, double and triple checked the linkage and settings, then went back and set the linkage so it would idle, ended up taking the idle speed knob all the way out to set the idle timing up enough so it would idle in gear. I checked the reeds, OK,made sure no one had mixed up the airbleeds and jets, spark and compresion were ok. Thought it was just mine, till my buddies did the same thing, even swap carbs from another motor and it made no difference. I never did get in to changing idle jet sizes(did'nt have enough to go experimenting). Got it to run good enough, but was never completely satisfied with it at idle.

THEFERMANATOR 03-26-2008 08:08 PM

My 140 idled like CRAP until I rejetted it. Mine was due to premixing, it would go to ROLLING blue smoke after about 30 seconds of idling. And it would starve for fuel in the mid range and stall out about 1/2 the time trying to get on plane. A little re-jetting and now I can idle for an hour with minimal trouble, and it will get right on plane with no hesitation either. Mine was a REAL basket case when I got it, and for the longest time I HATED THIS DAMN ENGINE! Then I decided I was going to beat it into submission and win. Now I LOVE IT!:sun:

bradford 03-26-2008 09:24 PM

I'll be the devils advocate and say keep the 200 and swap out the carbs for a set off a 225.

macojoe 03-26-2008 09:45 PM

My 225 looper gets the Sea Ox right up and go!! Nice motor in deed! I am very happy with how the boat went it all the test runs!! Toped out at 35 mph, But I might be able to do better once I get use to the trim tabs and stuff?? The Ox is a heavy boat!! 3000K just for the hull.
But no matter thats fast enough for me! And with the price of gas I will be going a bit slower this year!!

THEFERMANATOR 03-26-2008 09:49 PM

From his sig pic, it looks like his current engine has a late 70's early 80's decal set on it which would make it a cross-flow. Like I said before, i aint far from TAMPA, and I'm OK with JOHNNY-RUDES if you need any help.

mckinnonfishing 03-26-2008 11:38 PM

Im pretty sure its a late 80s johnson 200. well the guy i bought it from sai
d weeds got up in the intake and it ran hot and the top cylinder is bad... being new to outboards I have no clue, everyone that ive talked to said that it will cost just as much to fix it and just get another motor. Did say the lower unit was rebuilt, all new crap. one person that looked at it said it had a whole new electrical system wires plugs starter. i have a closer pic but dont know how to load them in a profile.. ill put it as my signature. you guys have been a real help..

macojoe 03-27-2008 04:41 AM

Also got a few parts from these guys, they re 1/2 the new cost most of the time. Good to deal with IMO In FL also!

http://www.marinepartsoutlet.com/?from=yahoo

THEFERMANATOR 03-27-2008 12:09 PM

Your picture looks more like a cross-flow cowling to me. The loopers beveled off at the top, and the cross flows were flat and boxy. If it is a cross-flow200, then it is an 85 or older. In 86 the 200 cross-flow became 150 or 175 depending upon wether it was a feeshin motor or a pro motor. The 235(AKA 2 thirsty 5) became the 175, or an XP or GT pro style engine. It doesn't appear to be a looper cowling to me, but I could be wrong(been wrong many times before). It also appears to be a 20 leg on it which will allow more engine choices. Remember that you can run a 25" shaft opn a 20" transom with a jack plate, but you can't run a 20" shaft on a 25" transom without cutting it down to a 20" or going with a setback bracket.

mckinnonfishing 03-27-2008 12:49 PM

wow you want to know how retarded i am when it comes to outboards that whole post you gave me sounded like the teacher from charlie brown...
Im going to take it to a marina and see if they can tell me whats exactly wrong with it.

mckinnonfishing 03-27-2008 09:19 PM

whatever Im just going to sell it, 2000 first come


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