Even if McCarthy did say it. So what? That was his opinion at the time. He, like everyone else, is allowed to have an opinion and also like everyone else is allowed to change it as time and circumstances change. it proves NOTHING other than some obscure footnote in history.

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“ even if “ says destroyer - as if McCarthys OWN VOICE ON TAPE may not be true ….

McCarthy LIED - said he never said it’s his opinion trump should resign - then was caught by his own reordered voice .

You guys are what’s known as “ a piece of work “
FACT DENIERS

McCarthy “ changing his mind” isn’t the issue .

FACT IS

McCarthy DENIED he ever spoke with associate advising he planned to advise trump to resign.
He called it all a lie…..until the voice recording of him speaking those exact words was played !

He also said of trump “ I’ve had it with this guy”
So this LIAR McCarthy will likely be our next Speaker of the House.
With a proven record of LYING .

Ha, ha, ha - good grief. I’ll get to it when and if I decide to. I’m doing actual work on a number of things that are important to me and my family - your posts, as biased and one sided as they are don’t rise instantly to the top of my priorities.

You would probably get more respect if you could control your mindless, snarky, not clever or remotely accurate, clumsy attempts at jabs.

So when McCarthy becomes the next speaker, he’ll be introduced as the Liar of the House

But republicans respect lying ….after all Trump was the Liar in Chief for 4 years

I’m pretty sure there’s nothing anyone could do to take the title of “Liar of the House” from Pelosi. Remember, it’s the democrats who have and continue to make lying the status quo.

You not caring in the least about that fact, doesn’t mitigate the fact that the lying, cheating traitorous democrats are, through incompetence and misguided ideology driven policies, doing huge damage to the country.

But, hey - in your exceptionally narrow, rigid, biased mind, “Republican, conservative, non-far left people” BAD!

Just more insults from you scook …and more “ what about bla bla bla” to avoid the truth and facts of this post .

You know, I did a little experiment when you returned after a few days off from posting. I was extremely careful to be respectful and to only address the things you were posting, without evaluation of your motives or how far off the rails you were.

Immediately, when your conclusions were challenged, you resorted to your snarky attempts at insults. Even then, I have made my responses accurate evaluations of your bad behavior - and yes, your behavior is so bad that accurate evaluations of it are prone to be insulting (if you don't reflect on them in a self evaluative way.

You are the instigator of insults across this forum. Fortunately, your opinions don't garner enough respect for anyone to actually be insulted by you.

As for who's lying and to what extent it affects anything, we are all (except apparently you) quite capable of forming our own conclusions and balancing the imperfections of politicians with their policies, competence and leadership abilities.

I’ll give you a “ little experiment “ to try scook.

Try dealing with the FACTS starting with:
1. Trump lost by wide margin to Biden - but pushed the big lie that he won.
2. Trump encouraged the attack on our Capitol in his words to “ be strong be wild “ along with his lawyer who encouraged “ election by combat “ or such.
3. Trumps been lying on so many things - 40,000 is the recorded amount, give or take.
4. Trumps a disgrace - he took the word of Putin over Americans .

You might try an experiment - try not thinking you’re so brilliant that you can disrespect everyone who has an honest disagreement with you by ignoring anything you don’t agree with and attacking with your pathetic attempts at insults, and NEVER making an honest, direct response to anything.

I’m quite able to deal with the facts - Biden’s in the WhiteHouse, much to the detriment of the country - those are both facts.

I don’t know how crooked the election was, but it was certainly a good deal more so than you acknowledge with your lawyer speak about all the “certifications” by the likes of the FBI, which actively and traitorously propelled attempts to destroy a presidency and associated individuals. Your refusal to acknowledge that clearly proven fact makes you an extremely unpatriotic person. You obviously value your anti-Trump/Republican/conservative hatred and bias more than any concern for the current destruction of the country.

His words may have been taken as encouragement for the minuscule fraction of the people who were violent, but you certain conclusion that he knowingly encouraged it is opinion, not unlikely from someone as wildly biased as you.

The 40,000 lies is obviously a blatant lie built on taking his words to mean things that they clearly didn’t mean. You don’t like him and your confirmation bias makes you want to believe things he never said - I observed that happening throughout his presidency often. When he said Mexico wasn’t sending their best people, he was a racist (notwithstanding Mexican not being a race and that it had nothing whatever to do with what he was talking about. When he stopped travel from China at the beginning of the pandemic, he was a xenophobe - that’s too stupid to rate further comment. The list goes on.

His judgment that American agencies were not telling the truth early on was probably spot on. It’s not disgraceful, it’s called savvy and being able to use experienced judgment. That’s pretty obviously something you don’t understand.