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Striper80 07-02-2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Larryrsf (Post 215034)
No. And something with a lot of arsenic in it would have been a good idea, albeit that is super illegal these days! Years ago bottom paint contained all sorts of toxic stuff.

As I walked to and from my boat today I was able to look at the lower units of several outboards and I/O rigs that are down in the water and saw the HORRIBLE growth from the sea water.

I have no idea how I will get that off my boat bottom! My lower unit is tilted up as far as possible but still extends only a few inches into the water. The marine growth after 3 weeks in that few inches is amazing! So today I looked at the growth before and after an hour ride in the harbor. I kept the speed up over 20MPH most of that time and hit 30+ for a few minutes. Guess what? The marine growth was exactly the same, NO change! So simply erosion from the rushing water is certainly not going to remove that.

Larry

Don't worry, a few more weeks in the water and you won't be able to hit 20mph. I'd get that boat out ASAP, clean the bottom, and paint it before the bottom is ruined.
By the way, trailers have bunks not bunkers.

bradford 07-02-2014 09:16 PM

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Larryrsf 07-03-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by phatdaddy (Post 215037)
so, your keeping your boat in the water for the summer without any bottom paint on it?

that might not be a good idea

Just got a call that my boat trailer is ready after having been almost completely rebuilt. I plan to tow the trailer to a storage yard on MCRD where I will store the boat and trailer after I take it out of the water in the Fall. The MCRD facility is near the Harbor Island Marina where my boat is. And MCRD has a launch ramp. I think everything is there, water, power, etc. So I could drive down and work on it there, even paint the bottom after cleaning the marine growth off.

NOW, how do I move the boat on the trailer enough to get to the places the bunkers and rollers normally touch? That boat is HEAVY especially with the outboard motor on it-- any sort of jerry-rig support might be pretty dangerous to work underneath.

AND, what is the best way to remove marine growth? I have a power washer...

I will make a point of asking the guys who SCUBA underwater in the Marina to clean the boat bottoms of the sailboats-- which are too big to trailer.

Larry

Larryrsf 07-03-2014 02:19 PM

Thats what the worst ones look like! Can you just wash that stuff off?

Larryrsf 07-03-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Striper80 (Post 215042)
Don't worry, a few more weeks in the water and you won't be able to hit 20mph. I'd get that boat out ASAP, clean the bottom, and paint it before the bottom is ruined.
By the way, trailers have bunks not bunkers.

It had a good coat of paint before I put it in the water. But how could marine growth "ruin" a fiberglass surface? Seems it would be nearly impervious to real damage from marine growth-- since it has survived for 40+ years without weakening.

And since there are thousands of boats similarly in the ocean water on this and every coast. The sailboats are NEVER out of that water!

Larry

phatdaddy 07-03-2014 05:01 PM

if the bottom is protected with the correct paint, sitting in the water is not an issue.

Larryrsf 07-03-2014 05:59 PM

How do you embed those images? I tried to copy images from my computer and paste them into a post and it rejects them for being too large. When I reduced the size it gave a batch of machine language.

Larry

Striper80 07-03-2014 06:32 PM

Originally you said your boat was not painted, hence the concern.

Larryrsf 07-03-2014 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Striper80 (Post 215078)
Originally you said your boat was not painted, hence the concern.

Thanks. I really don't know. I got if after it had sat in a field for 14 years. It was obviously an ocean fishing boat. It had dozens of rod-holders and a big bait tank, an old fish finder, and ship-to-shore radio. The bottom was blue after I power-washed all the oxidation off. But who knows what or if any bottom paint was on there?

I really had little choice but to install it in a Marina after I put it in and then the trailer fell apart! And trying to use if from there all Summer seemed like a good option since there is NO CHANCE that any marine mechanic would work on it for me. The carbs need to be rebuilt. They told me that, but then they told me they have a months-long backlog of work. So what is an owner to do? I just add carb cleaner to the fuel and go!

Everything is a trade-off, a risk we take. If it blows up, I will remember that I got the boat, motor, and trailer for $100!

Larry

spoggy 07-03-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Larryrsf (Post 215083)
Thanks. I really don't know. I got if after it had sat in a field for 14 years. It was obviously an ocean fishing boat. It had dozens of rod-holders and a big bait tank, an old fish finder, and ship-to-shore radio. The bottom was blue after I power-washed all the oxidation off. But who knows what or if any bottom paint was on there?

I really had little choice but to install it in a Marina after I put it in and then the trailer fell apart! And trying to use if from there all Summer seemed like a good option since there is NO CHANCE that any marine mechanic would work on it for me. The carbs need to be rebuilt. They told me that, but then they told me they have a months-long backlog of work. So what is an owner to do? I just add carb cleaner to the fuel and go!

Everything is a trade-off, a risk we take. If it blows up, I will remember that I got the boat, motor, and trailer for $100!

Larry

Well, when becoming an owner of a vintage boat, you wind up taking on a tremendous amount of the work yourself. I purchased a 1977 V20 Cuddy, with a 1971 Mercury 1350 outboard about two weeks ago. There's a thread here that I started under "Repairs" that I will wind up doing myself.

Just to get the motor to where I'm comfortable, I'll be rebuilding the water pump, fuel pumps and carbs. Doing a full tune-up, new plug wires and distributer parts, replace any bad wiring and all the seals (and possibly bearings) in the lower unit. Then, I'll be rebuilding the controls and replacing the wiring.
All this for a boat that was in the water last year and fished. Some here may think its a bit of overkill, but I've seen some things in the way that the boat was maintained (or not) that make me scratch my head. I prefer to minimize some of the problems that I may have inherited.

To take a vessel that has "sat in a field for 14 years" and "add carb cleaner to the fuel and go" takes a level of confidence in the PO that I don't possess. Great boating to you!


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