gas prices

[steplift20]

what are we gonna do about these gas prices
i just took my boat down the shore and the prices soared 118 dollars a barrel
this is g,w,bush last horah hes gonna nail us but good
i said this was going to happen a year ago
so now what do we do
everybody chip in for gas i guess even my kid[there all grown up now] i hate asking for money for gas
hey attendant give me 50 dollars worth, thats about 12 gallons
bush is horrible for the people cant wait for him to get out
soory guys just had to vent alittle,that happens to me when i feel like im getting screwed

[parishht]

It's not just "W", I read an article in PM magazine about our oil reserves,
ther is more than we really know what to do with, tree huggers just
won't let us get it, they also won't let us build new refineries.

I also read an article were the oil minister of Venezuela just made a statement that
a barrel of oil will not be sold below $90 and it is the fault of the U.S. economy:

http://www.eluniversal.com/2008/04/21/en_eco_art_venezuelan-petroleum_21A1528767.shtml

[Pipe_Dream]

It has nothing to do with Bush, and everything to do with the US's unwillingness to become energy self-sufficient. We won't allow new refineries to be built. We aren't willing to tap into our own oil deposits in the ANWR and off our coastlines. We waste fuel.

[C YENSEN]

i dont give a :cen: who is responsible, but someone needs to do something abuot it:fight:

[macojoe]

Last week went up .25 cents in one day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Naterj14]

$3.70+ for gas and $4.25+ for diesel in south Fla. Its going to be like $180 bucks to fill the boat now.

[tsubaki]

3 years ago when we were in Belize it was $5.50 a gallon there.
In Europe it was about the same per litre as what ours was per gallon.
We are just catching up with the rest of the world, we are the biggest consumers and the prices were lowest to us (U.S.) because of that.
Only thing I can afford to do is NOT spend money on "newer" internal combustion devices and keep useing the old crap I have (or find for next to nothing). This only offsets the monthly payments to get low fuel consumption as opposed to high prices at the pump.

[tsubaki]

It has nothing to do with Bush, and everything to do with the US's unwillingness to become energy self-sufficient. We won't allow new refineries to be built. We aren't willing to tap into our own oil deposits in the ANWR and off our coastlines. We waste fuel.
The reason for this is WWII. The government realised the need to be self sufficient during a global crisis.
I don't like buying foreign oil or having ours preserved for something that might never happen, but you never know.

[tsubaki]

Lumber, how much you gonna charge to make a couple of 16' oars?

[jjjtronics]

I think I will end up on a sailboat, gas prices are getting beyond the regular salary guys like me. Power boat prices are under water now, it is very easy to buy, but very hard to sell any power boat around here, but still, we had around 300-400 boats in the area this Sunday. Boaters always find a way to afford a great boating day.
By the way, gas here is around 92 cents per liter today.
Juan

[cterrebonne]

being a finance and economics major im so sick and tired of people blaming the president for high gas prices. come on do you honestly think one person has enough power to controll the price of somthing that is traded on a futures market. yes predicting prices sounds crazy doesnt it. also how does someone expect to get crude cheap from over seas when it takes 1.60 dollars us to make 1 euro dollar. think about it if it were a 1:1 like it was in the 90's we would be paying 75 a barrel. wow gas would be under 2.75 a gallon. now if we would start using only our oil and not the foreign crap then you would see a price drop. hate W for what ever reason you want, trust me i sat that last two elections out becuase i didnt want to vote for him. its more than meets the eye.

[randlemanboater]

I bought $60 worth today, I got 17.2 gallons.

These gas prices are cutting into my beer money.

[steplift20]

mark my words
when bush is out gas prices will come down
did anyone here him addressing this problem i havent
when clinton was in 89 cents a gallon
when bush was running for reelection gas prices came down
dont believe me check it out for yourselfs

[Petrus]

Glad I'm moored on a tidal river- just have to plan my trips accordingly--- drift out on the ebb, drift in on the flow- hell maybe I'll put up a mast and sail her!

[cterrebonne]

mark my words
when bush is out gas prices will come down
did anyone here him addressing this problem i havent
when clinton was in 89 cents a gallon
when bush was running for reelection gas prices came down
dont believe me check it out for yourselfs


think about what clinton did in office and tell me how he allowed gas prices to be so low. look at the invesment portfolios now compared to what they were a decade ago. there are much much more holdings in energy. when ever you have that much money riding on somthing and it is a future of course it wont fa'll. key to lower gas prices. find somthing that is more attractive to invest than energy and stop consuming as much. problem is as of right now the cheapest source of energy is fossil fuel and the crude is high. fix it by using our own stuff and open refiniries. hell how about this idea drill off of cali and FL. also steplift 20 if the dem's take office and gasoline is cheaper. i will eat crow i promise but i dont see it happening.

[bcmarinamanager]

GW doesn't have any power over the price of gas. Our crappy "representatives" have allowed our economy to go to crap, and are over taxing the heck out of us. I'll tell you all what, everybody on this site write and call your representatives and tell them that you want them to back the Fair Tax bill. And when you geta return letter telling you that the plan isn't good, keep writing them and tell them to research it. And while you're doing that, tell all you're friends to do the same. A 33% raise in wages would make a big difference, not to mention take away ALL of our corrupt governments power. Don't believe me? Check it out at fairtax.org.

[THEFERMANATOR]

If you think it is bad now, let a democrat get into office. There first agenda is to add a 75 cent per gallon tax on to help pay for these socialized programs:bat:.

[cterrebonne]

If you think it is bad now, let a democrat get into office. There first agenda is to add a 75 cent per gallon tax on to help pay for these socialized programs:bat:.

right on ferm...this is what i dont understand America was never suppose to be a socialist nation...so why in the hell are we turning it into one....socialism does not work... and social security they should bring back the "you dont put in, you dont get back". its bogus man. all of our liberties are being stolen 1 by 1.

[randlemanboater]

What happened to all those oil wells they capped off years ago because they said oil had to be over $60 a barrell to make it worth pumping them.

I'd say its time to start pumping again.

And if you think Exxon doesn't have enough dough to influence the next set of leaders, check their record profits they keep reporting, they can buy anyone they want, including anyone who comes up with a better, cheeper fuel.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Another way to lower fuel costs is to get rid of ethanol. Our current ethanol production methods uses around 1.2-1.3 gallons of diesel to grow, harvest and cultivate the materials and to get it to the manufacturing plant. Not to mention that it will only yield around 80-85% of the power potential of gas. So not only are we using more petroliem to make than what we produce, but were getting less efficiency when using it. All to make some tree huggers that don't know no better feel better:bat:.

A little ETHANOL humor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GUV3dUovqM

[steplift20]

Stop The Boat Im Getting Off

[steplift20]

You Will Never See Me In A Blow Boat
I Dont Care How Much Gas Prices Go Up

[parishht]

Speaking of Ethanol, that is another bogus excuse for the rise of food prices.

The food price rise is totally manufactured.
There are wheat farmers that have no place to sell their wheat
because the millers are still sitting on last years stocks.
No, I am not making this up, I have farmer friends who are very close to the issue.

Oh yeah, we have more corn that we know what to do with also and
corn isn't the only material that can be used to make alcohol fuel.

[bcmarinamanager]

I agree, not to mention all the farmers that get subsidies to NOT grow crops because we already are producing "too much" food. What the hell is wrong with the people we put in power???? I'll tell you, they are all lawyers, not businessmen. The reason why no "businessman" has ever run is because this business called our country has been controlled by socialist lawyers for too, too long and it is going to cost us Americans a helluva lot of money to fix it. Problem is, no one wants to hear it or work for it.... we "deserve" it. Just like everything else in this country that people think they "deserve" like cable tv in prison. It's all out of control. Get your gun permits and buy your ammo boys, we'll be looking at another revolution in the next 10-20 years. Mark my words.

[nipper]

Wow, BC, that's a little strong. You really think there will be armed citizen revolts?

[parishht]

and it won't be over gas or food, it is going to be fresh water.

Pennsylvania almost passed a law to meter the water
consumption of people with wells so they could tax us.
Luckily that was voted down.

[Blue_Runner]

Nipper a civil war happened once before. If it does I vote Willy the president of the confederacy. All hail president William.......

Wow guys, I agree with some of the things posted and disagree with others. The president may not be able to push a button and lower gas prices but he certainly could do MORE. What pisses me off is he and his family are in the oil business. Now that my friend, is a conflict of interest - BIG TIME! Just a couple of weeks ago he claimed he did not know gas prices were about to spike when questioned by a reporter.

P.S. Whoever that was that said they were gonna eat crow......better load up your shotgun bro.

Peace,
Blue

[lumberslinger178]

I think most of the politicans are so out of touch with realliaty due to the fact they have so much money, 5 bucks for a gallon of gas is nothing to them, they put it on a credit card and there accountant pays the bill at the end of month,they never see it so no big deal to them..................oh cocktails at the country club at 5 ish ...i'll be there:fight:dont forget to tell Muffy:bsflag:

[THEFERMANATOR]

I agree, not to mention all the farmers that get subsidies to NOT grow crops because we already are producing "too much" food. What the hell is wrong with the people we put in power???? I'll tell you, they are all lawyers, not businessmen. The reason why no "businessman" has ever run is because this business called our country has been controlled by socialist lawyers for too, too long and it is going to cost us Americans a helluva lot of money to fix it. Problem is, no one wants to hear it or work for it.... we "deserve" it. Just like everything else in this country that people think they "deserve" like cable tv in prison. It's all out of control. Get your gun permits and buy your ammo boys, we'll be looking at another revolution in the next 10-20 years. Mark my words.

The part in red pretty well sums it up. MOST lawyers don't seem to care about anything but themselves. Of course though most of them are tought to be soul less to survive the business, how else can they defend someone who is guilty so vigourously and with a straight face. And I don't for see it being 10-20 years before there is an uprising in this nation, but that's just me.

[steplift20]

i cant wait for bush to get out
the only good thing is i will be able to tell my grandkids that i remember the WORST president we ever had imsure they will ask me what he was like
il say he is the dummest person that ever was put in the white house and he almost destroyed our great country with fuel prices a war that we should not be in who are we fighting anyway how a dumb *** like bush may so much money while in office that will come out later
remember in irac weapons of mas destruction they never found any and he admitted to it later that they found nothing but we invaded there country anyway why?
isnt that like hitler
i will defend my country anyday but not for a bull**** reason like more money for bush and his pals if he believes in it so much why are his daughters not there fighting

[Pipe_Dream]

Oh please . . .
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j228/4MyDogs/gifs%20and%20smilies/roll.gif



This thread really should be in Off Topic.

[bcmarinamanager]

i cant wait for bush to get out
the only good thing is i will be able to tell my grandkids that i remember the WORST president we ever had imsure they will ask me what he was like
il say he is the dummest person that ever was put in the white house and he almost destroyed our great country with fuel prices a war that we should not be in who are we fighting anyway how a dumb *** like bush may so much money while in office that will come out later
remember in irac weapons of mas destruction they never found any and he admitted to it later that they found nothing but we invaded there country anyway why?
isnt that like hitler
i will defend my country anyday but not for a bull**** reason like more money for bush and his pals if he believes in it so much why are his daughters not there fighting





No my friend, Jimmy Carter was THE worst American President. The housing crisis we're in right now is due to him passing laws that MANDATE banks to give subprime loans due to "equal housing" . Not to mention he set us up for the situation we're in right now in the middle east. He made us weak in the eyes of the radical Muslims. Now they think they have a chance to beat us by driving us out of Iraq. And as far as weapons of mass destruction go, Syria is about a two hour trip from Iraq. We have video footage from when he used chemical weapons on his own people, so duh, he did have them. And I'm sure Syria has them now. You do realize that Isreal bombed the crap out of a site in Syria last fall right? I wonder why they did that????

[Stillrunning]

I love the liberal line that Bush has raised the price of gas then they turn around and call him dumb. You would have to be pretty smart to figure out how to raise the price of oil all over the world. If he did cause oil to go up like someone here knows he did then why isn't Obama or Hillary using that as a platform to get elected into office. Heck, if they promised me they could lower the price close to what it was before he took office (thats fair sense Bush increased the prices) and could tell me how I'd vote for them. Bush offered a plain to drill for oil which has been shot down everytime and by who? I'm not the biggest fan of Bush but I'm not going to blame him for somethng that he is not responsable for and that goes for every president we have. I think its time we as Americans start to look at things as a group and not one side against the other and we need to demand that from our goverment. I'm not saying lets all join hands and sing songs but we need to move foward and stop attacking each other on every issue. Sure we have different opinions but I'm sure we also have more common ground on which things should work.

[parishht]

Kumbayaaaaaaaaa.... oh wait I lost my head there for a minute.

You are correct and if you listen to teh speeches of the OPEC leaders,
some of which hate the U.S., then you will know who is driving the price up.

Could it be Chavez and Imanutajob, paying for their social revolutions along with
buying submarines, warships, jets and arms (from Russia)?

[randlemanboater]

Get your gun permits and buy your ammo boys, we'll be looking at another revolution in the next 10-20 years. Mark my words.

I just spent 2 days at the range doing combat shooting, fired about 1000 rounds, I'm ready.

Now, which side will I be on.:head:

[spareparts]

the good side

[drj]

I love the liberal line that Bush has raised the price of gas then they turn around and call him dumb. You would have to be pretty smart to figure out how to raise the price of oil all over the world. If he did cause oil to go up like someone here knows he did then why isn't Obama or Hillary using that as a platform to get elected into office. Heck, if they promised me they could lower the price close to what it was before he took office (thats fair sense Bush increased the prices) and could tell me how I'd vote for them. Bush offered a plain to drill for oil which has been shot down everytime and by who? I'm not the biggest fan of Bush but I'm not going to blame him for somethng that he is not responsable for and that goes for every president we have. I think its time we as Americans start to look at things as a group and not one side against the other and we need to demand that from our goverment. I'm not saying lets all join hands and sing songs but we need to move foward and stop attacking each other on every issue. Sure we have different opinions but I'm sure we also have more common ground on which things should work.

Stillrunning is exactly right.
All the democrats want is for the government to take over the price of fuel and regulate it.
Thats not how our government works. If you want to live in a socialist state there are plenty to move to.It would not be right for our government to cap oil prices because we feel they are unfair. The oil companies make a lot of profit and the only ones who can really do anything about the rising costs is us consumers ourselves. If we could all pull together for just a short period of time I think we could make some drastic difference. If we all didnt buy gasoline from a particular foreign oil company just for two or three days I think they would wake up a bit. It would send the message that we aren't vulnerable to whatever price they feel like charging.I think when we are ready to all have an inconvenience like that we can start making progress. And saying that a democrat in office is going to solve anything is ridiculous. I dont care what party they are from I personally believe Obama hasn't been around long enough to be president of anything and Clinton just cant get her story straight.
Just my $.02 =)

[THEFERMANATOR]

You can count on one thing from EITHER of the demoncrats, and that is HIGHER fuel prices. They BOTH have endorsed the $.75 per gallon fuel tax to help pay for these socialized programs, so hang on to your butts. And the other thing to keep in mind is that ANY presidents policies DON'T make immediate changes. Many times there lucky if by the end of there 2 terms in office to see what there policies have done. And to all of those who felt that things were better under CLINTON'S reign, I got a former boss you need to meet. He could take a company that is going bankrupt and juggle the books to make it look like MICROSOFT when they exploded onto the scene. And just wait for your tax's to go back to CLINTON'S era, most will go up from 45-85%!

[drj]

That's some peoples resolution to everything "Lets just raise some more taxes that'll solve the problem"

[THEFERMANATOR]

That's some peoples resolution to everything "Lets just raise some more taxes that'll solve the problem"

Yep, as though 60+% isn't bad enough. It's really sickening when you sit down and think about how much you REALLY get taxed. You pay taxes when you make it, you pay for social security that gets used elsewhere, you pay for medicare, you pay tax when you buy something, and those goods have already been taxed before they make it to you who knows how many times, you pay taxes when you die, you pay taxes when you buy a home, you pay taxes on your utilities, you pay taxes when you die, you pay taxes on your property, and so on and son and so on:bat:. So let's add son some more!

[spareparts]

I think BC hit on one of the major issues, there seems to be two different camps in our society, those who feel they deserve it, and those who just want the opertunity to earn it. There are crooks and saints on both sides. I'm just glad I've been given the opertunity and the skills to "earn it", there are a lot of people in this world that don't get either.

[bcmarinamanager]

Yep, as though 60+% isn't bad enough. It's really sickening when you sit down and think about how much you REALLY get taxed. You pay taxes when you make it, you pay for social security that gets used elsewhere, you pay for medicare, you pay tax when you buy something, and those goods have already been taxed before they make it to you who knows how many times, you pay taxes when you die, you pay taxes when you buy a home, you pay taxes on your utilities, you pay taxes when you die, you pay taxes on your property, and so on and son and so on:bat:. So let's add son some more!

FAIRTAX.ORG Look it up guys. I'm telling you, this is probably the only feesable plan to bring REAL change to our country and get things back to a much simpler time. If you get a chance to, read the two books Neal Boortz and John Linder wrote about the plan. They will answer any and all questions and concerns people might have. It doesn't sound interesting I know, and I'm not a big reader, but I finished the book in a week. It is really pretty engaging. Once people really understand how much taxes they actually pay, and can see where that money is going, only then will there be any understanding of what the real problem is......our "leaders"

[bcmarinamanager]

I think BC hit on one of the major issues, there seems to be two different camps in our society, those who feel they deserve it, and those who just want the opertunity to earn it. There are crooks and saints on both sides. I'm just glad I've been given the opertunity and the skills to "earn it", there are a lot of people in this world that don't get either.

I ABSOLUTELY agree. But hey, why pay our mortgages, or any bills for that matter, when the government will bail you out if you can't (or just don't) pay them?

[randlemanboater]

I have listened to Boortz talking about the Fair Tax, I think it would work.

But the corrupt politicians will never let it pass.

[bcmarinamanager]

I have listened to Boortz talking about the Fair Tax, I think it would work.

But the corrupt politicians will never let it pass.

yeah the politicians definetly don't want to see it happen. Just try writing to your rep. and the response you'll get is probably the same one they all send out saying that there are just too many unknowns about the proposal which is B.S. It is so simple it makes them look stupid because they can't wrap there Harvard educated brains around it.

[THEFERMANATOR]

yeah the politicians definetly don't want to see it happen. Just try writing to your rep. and the response you'll get is probably the same one they all send out saying that there are just too many unknowns about the proposal which is B.S. It is so simple it makes them look stupid because they can't wrap there Harvard educated brains around it.

They could very easily wrap there HARVARD brains around it, BUT THEY WON'T! They know that it won't line there pockets to do so. It is going to take something radical to wake this nation up, and I believe a civil war will may be what it takes to do it. The tax situation is one of the biggest reasons I support RON PAUL. He is DEAD AGAINST taxes in there current form, and feels they are unconstitutional. This I feel is the biggest reason he will never be in a position of power, his government fears him.

[bcmarinamanager]

Actually, Mike Huckabee is the only candidate that supports the Fair Tax Plan. I agree about the civil uprising though. Remember your history? That's exactly why we went to war with England and got our indepedence...taxes. Unfair taxation without representation. I wonder if we could find a lawyer to take up that cause. Our "representatives" aren't representing us, so the taxes they levy on us are unfair, and extremely burdensome. Sounds like a plan.
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