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THEFERMANATOR
02-16-2008, 12:41 AM
A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW..............

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Your Social Security
Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones)
didn't know this. It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it.
Be sure and show it to your kids. They need a little history lesson
on what's what .and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or
Republican. Facts are Facts!!!
Our Social Security

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
Completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
Incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
Into the Program would be deductible from
Their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the
Independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
General operating fund, and therefore, would
Only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees
Would never be taxed as income.


Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
Now receiving a Social Security check every month --
And then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
The money we paid to the Federal government to 'put
Away' -- you may be interested in the following:

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Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
Independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
General fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
Controlled House and Senate.

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Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
Deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

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Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

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Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving
Annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right!
Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
Began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
Even though they never paid a dime into it!

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Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats
turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your
Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of
Awareness will be planted and maybe changes will
Evolve. Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully
Sure of what isn't so.

But it's worth a try. How many people can
YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.
AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE
TERM!!!

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
enough to take everything you have.
-Thomas Jefferson

tsubaki
02-16-2008, 05:22 AM
Socialism refers to a broad array of ideologies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology) and political movements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_movement) with the goal of a socio-economic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socio-economic) system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#_note-0) This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_councils)—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system), socialism is often characterized by state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State), worker, or community ownership of the means of production (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Means_of_production), goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties) and governments throughout history.
The modern socialist movement largely originated in the late-19th century working class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_class) movement. In this period, the term 'socialism' was first used in connection with European (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe) social critics who criticized capitalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism) and private property (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property). For Karl Marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx), who 'helped establish and define the modern socialist movement, socialism would be the socioeconomic system that arises' after the proletarian revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proletarian_revolution), in which the means of production are owned collectively. This society would then progress into communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism).
Since the 19th century, socialists have not agreed on a common doctrine or program. Various adherents of socialist movements are split into differing and sometimes opposing branches, particularly between reformists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformism) and revolutionaries. Some socialists have championed the complete nationalization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalization) of the means of production, while social democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy) have proposed selective nationalization of key industries within the framework of mixed economies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy). Some Marxists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism), including those inspired by the Soviet model of economic development (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Soviet_Union), have advocated the creation of centrally planned economies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_economy) directed by a state that owns all the means of production. Others, including Communists in Yugoslavia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia) and Hungary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Hungary) in the 1970s and 1980s, Chinese Communists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party) since the reform era (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_economic_reform), and some Western economists, have proposed various forms of market socialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism), attempting to reconcile the presumed advantages of cooperative or state ownership of the means of production with letting market (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market) forces, rather than central planners, guide production (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_theory_basics) and exchange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#_note-1) Anarcho-syndicalists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalists), Luxemburgists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxemburgists) (such as those in the Socialist Party USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_USA)) and some elements of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) New Left (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left) favor decentralized collective ownership in the form of cooperatives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperatives) or workers' councils.

tsubaki
02-16-2008, 05:29 AM
And Why Does This Sound Like It Has Hillary Written All Over It?

willy
02-16-2008, 07:59 AM
because it is Hillary, and a large number of people in her party.

reelapeelin
02-16-2008, 03:23 PM
because it is Hillary, and a large number of people in her party.



So McCain wants to grant amnesty to all the illigal immigrants and predicts we'll be in Iraq for another 100 years...tell me which is the worst choice??...ya know I'm not toutin' Big-Hips Hilary ... but it's just all the wasted time pittin' Dems against Reps that's drivin' me nutts!!...it's the politicians and their lobbyist pals against Americans and their freedom we ought to be worried about ...

willy
02-16-2008, 04:19 PM
First I want to say that I respect him for what he did for our country and that puts him head and shoulders over the sh!t socialist party candidates but I am no fan of him and his record, I do not want him as president. See previous posts and picking the lesser of two piles of crap.
But it would be good to do an actual quote, that one about the 100 years in Iraq is not what the man said. That is the drive by medias version and spin by the socialist party candidates.
What he said was that he would do whatever it takes to win the war on terrorism and secure this country, and if it took 100 years he would do it, and that he would not leave Iraq until the job was done and the troops could leave with a victory and a free Iraq.
Big difference, but it is the type of thing I expected in the press today.

reelapeelin
02-17-2008, 10:29 AM
First I want to say that I respect him for what he did for our country and that puts him head and shoulders over the sh!t socialist party candidates but I am no fan of him and his record, I do not want him as president. See previous posts and picking the lesser of two piles of crap.
But it would be good to do an actual quote, that one about the 100 years in Iraq is not what the man said. That is the drive by medias version and spin by the socialist party candidates.
What he said was that he would do whatever it takes to win the war on terrorism and secure this country, and if it took 100 years he would do it, and that he would not leave Iraq until the job was done and the troops could leave with a victory and a free Iraq.
Big difference, but it is the type of thing I expected in the press today.


I willconcede the media spin aspect on the 100 years thing...but will someone define victory, cause if the instigators of this war went over there w/ the true intent of a FREE Iraq, then I am a Nigerian Jet Pilot!!...

LESTERUS
02-21-2008, 01:23 PM
Reel:

Based On My Own Experience, I Rather Have Those "not So Good" Politicians Than An "honest" Dictator.

We Cubans In The 50's Started Labeling The Politicians, Nobody Was Good Enough For Us, They Were All Corrupt, (according To The Media), The Rich Were All Thieves (then Agian According To The Media) And Look What We'd Had For The Last 50 Years, Everybody Wanted "change" But Nobody Bothered To Look What We Were Changing Into. Castro Promesed He Would Put Everybody At The Same Level And He Fullfilled His Promises, Now Everybody In Cuba Is Poor And Miserable.

randlemanboater
02-21-2008, 04:01 PM
Hey Lesterus, all your problems are over now, Castro is retiring.

tsubaki
02-21-2008, 04:05 PM
Yeah but if we ain't careful ours will just begin with Hillary.
What'll we call that?
A clittator?