Whats The Trick

[msbhammer]

For all those bottom painters out there. So whats the trick to finding your waterline mark when applying bottom. While at the boat yard yesturday, a few boaters were saying how I should "still" bottom paint my hull and paint all the way up to the pin striping. But the water line doeasnt go as high as the pin striping. If I did bottom paint he, I would prefer to have the hull anti-foul paint right at the water. So there's gotta be a way to figure out your water line and also get a straight even line. Will I be the only guy out the trying to Chaulk a line evenly all the way around my boat ??? ;D ;D

[reelapeelin]

Hammer...is your boat gonna spend a lotta time(stored) in the water, tied at a dock...or will it spend most time on trailer??...if most time on trailer, there's really no reason to bottom paint, unless I'm missin' something... ;)...

[Stinky_Hooker]

I can just see you in the boat at the slip hanging over the sides drawing a line! Then he gets it out and "what a minute...its higher now." ;D

[msbhammer]

Reel, boat will be on the trailer most of te time. What I want to do is dewax te entire hull, do all the repairs, add a coat of Interlux Interprotect 2001E and repaint the hull white.
Being a bit pressured to just paint the hull with antifoul. I guess you can apply it in lower temps, then waiting for warmer temps to paint.
Think I'm against the clock here. Te boat was lifted off the trailer and placed on 3ft. jacks. This was all done will no charge involved, but the owner doesnt want the boat sitting in his boat yard forever either for free.

I could simply do the hull repairs and spot paint, but figured this was the best time to knock out all of the hull work since she is on jack stands.
Lord....or Stinky, please send me some warm weather !!

[Skools Out]

is your boat bottom coated currently? if not don't bottom coat it. That stuff's good for 24/25 ft boats and up due to they stay in the water more usually. This is your boat right?

Don't bottom coat that boat it's a Virgin Hull!!!

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[macojoe]

If I had a Naked bottom like your boat I would NEVER NEVER paint it!!!
That is like painting it pink or something!

If it is going to stay on a trailer or rack system you don't want it or need it!!

My boat has 20 coats of crap on it and I am not ready to deal with the striping of it. But when I do get it done it will stay white!

We have had this talk here before, there is a paint you can put on there that will look great and will last like iron, Do a search on bottom paint here I am sure you will find it.

But unless you keeping the boat in the water 24/7 don't get pushed into something!!

[shicks007]

DON'T DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o

[Blue_Runner]

I second (or third) that! Don't do it! I have a friend that keeps his on the trailer. First thing he did was bottom paint his virgin hull. Then he was trying to figure out how to get water line stains off the side of the hull just above the water line. Some guy online said, "muriatic acid should take it right off". Well, he was right, but it also took off his new bottom paint :o

[Stinky_Hooker]

Lord....or Stinky, please send me some warm weather !!


78 and sunny today, I actually broke a sweat while working outside on the tractor. ::)

Sure, be jealous now, but in July and August when it is 98 with 100% humidity I will be begging yall for relief from this preasure cooker called Mobile!!! :o

[rb437]

Because I have access to an inexpensive slip ($210.00 / year), a free ramp, and a trailer, I keep my boat in the water most weekends from May to Nov. and during the week the boat usually stays on the trailer. My boat has never been painted, and I plan to keep it that way. Paint is just extra work. Don't do it just cause you can. Only do it if you have to.

[Pipe_Dream]

Rick, where are you? Because around here 6 months would get you some serious growth.

[Bygracealone]

So, would it be wise to use muriatic acid to strip bottom paint? My V has bottom paint and I plan on removing it when I get the time.

My 84 Wellcraft 248 was a virgin hull. I wish I had never put that stuff on her. She looks so much better without out and it turned out that even though I had a slip, because of motor replacements, she was on a trailer most of the time anyway :'(

[Mac_Attack]

If you keep the boat in the water paint if not don't. Mine is virgin. I only wax it. Just like MJ. Bill Mc

[willy]

Like WHO :o

[Skools Out]

Willy he ment like Lil' Mac Junior lol

[reelapeelin]

HAMMER...PLEASE DON'T paint that hull...there's NO USE IN IT...you're spendin' $$$ you don't have to, settin' up a maintenance issue you don't have to...SLOWIN' your top-end down...people paint their hulls because they spend most or all the time in the water and THEY HAVE TO DO IT!!...You DON'T have to....Dodge this bullet... ;)...

[msbhammer]

Yeah, I dont want to paint the hull with anti-foul either. Its a big thing here I guess with all the other boats in the boat yard. Just wanna do all the hull repairs sealer her and then repaint the hull white. Thats if the weather warms up. Running against the clock here with the boat yard, Boat was lifted and stacked for free. Thinking I might be able to keep the boat at the yard for 3-weeks then it will start costing me.
Here is the boat on jacks now. Plenty of room to work on the dings, scrapes and two gouges.
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[macojoe]

The No Paint wins the vote!!
So if you paint now, you will have to stand against the wall while each member paints you!!

I am going to make you look like a Smurf and have my way with you! ;D

[msbhammer]

All I need now is some sun and warm temps ! ::)

[macojoe]

Its March!! Its on the way! ;D

[Stinky_Hooker]

All I need now is some sun and warm temps ! ::)


Drag her down here!!!! ;D
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[Skools Out]

;D ;DYeah or here it's 79* out right now at 1:27 PM ;D

[rb437]

Hey Pipe...... I'm in Annapolis, MD. The boat is in the water on most but not all weekends. 6 months straight in the water and I would be sorry in didn't paint. Actually about 2 weeks would be to long.

[Bygracealone]

Hey Rick, you're absolutely right. I'm just a couple of minutes from Annapolis in Riva off the South River. Out here, two weeks would be too long to go w/o paint.

[reelapeelin]

He's gonna paint it...

[TheTinMan]

Just wanna do all the hull repairs sealer her and then repaint the hull white.
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You lost me here??? Why are you painting? Your hull, minus the damaged, area looks good from the pictures. A good buff job and would look even better.

[shicks007]

I would rather shave my private area with a dull putty knife than paint the bottom of that rig!

[pikfish]

As much as I dont like gelcoating, for the small repair you have I would just fix the small damaged areas and spot roll them with gelcoat tinted to match. This is for sure the best and quickest fix!

[Blue_Runner]

I would do nothing and go fishing!

[Stinky_Hooker]

I agree!!! GO FISH!! ;D

[msbhammer]

Was told to sand the entire hull with 80 grit along with dewaxing. Then fix the gouges. Once that is done, Iam to paint on a coat of Interkux 2000E barrier coat that will stop any water absorption. Once that is done, I want to simply get some hull paint and paint her white, but everyone says to put antifoul paint on.
Earier to put on in colder weather ??? or does it hide imperfections.. Hopefully it will be painted white "the Hull".
Was also told that a simple coat of Marine-Tex Mighty will do fine for the gouges in the hull. ?? yes, no ??
I figured some good old fiberglass resin for the auto store will do, but hear things that it wont flex with the hull. ??
Ok, off to check out a 1985 sea lion dual axel trailer with new springs, fenders, wiring, lights, tires and spare, along with power winch for a thousand bucks. Is this a good deal ?? will take photos !! : )
And yes, I got my money back from the guy who sold me th etrailer with no title. Just got home from a trip to Jersey. Things might be looking better for me now. ;D

[sfprovyn]

Unless its in a wet slip I would not paint it. Mine was already painted with what was probably a tar brush and I had to do something so I got off as much of the old ugly faded anti foul as I could and put a couple of coats of nice dark gray porch paint on the bottom and a red stripe over it which looks good and covered well. Its your boat and you will do what you want but why bottom paint a trailer boat? I think they look a lot better with out it. Frank

[Skools Out]

why are you painting it at all? the hull looks good just patch the gelcoat and be done with it

[msbhammer]

School,
Figured since the boat was on jscks to go ahead and hit all the nicks and cranny's, but may be on a trailer sooner. Damm weather wont warm up.
Ohh, the room is spinning, wifey took me out to the bar. Ahh, I'll be feeling it in the morning.

[TheTinMan]

Was told to sand the entire hull with 80 grit along with dewaxing. Then fix the gouges. Once that is done, Iam to paint on a coat of Interkux 2000E barrier coat that will stop any water absorption. Once that is done, I want to simply get some hull paint and paint her white, but everyone says to put antifoul paint on.

I think you got bum info here....ONLY paint if you are keeping the boat in the water, PLEEEEEASE! :D

[reelapeelin]

I'm tellin' ya, Guys...he's gonna paint it!!...she'll have a ''black bottom'' on her soon... :'( :'(...

[msbhammer]

LOL, No antifoul on her yet. ;D
Might be sanding on her on Tuesday since i am off, but it depends on this Brrr cold weather. I'm a wuss when it comes to working outside in the cold.

[Mulv80]

72 degrees this Saturday Mike, at least thats what the weather guessers are predicting.

[reelapeelin]

Hammer used the ''yet'' word...he's GONNA paint it...

[TheTinMan]

Hammer...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...DON'T PAINT IT!!!

[pikfish]

Well if you are sure you want to paint the bottom at least use something like Interlux VC-17

[Stinky_Hooker]

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[msbhammer]

Yeah Amn Mulv. Here the weather will be nice this weekend. Looking forward to getting some work done on the boat. Will be showing up with a gallon of white hull paint and not antifoul paint. Hopefully that will make things clear in the boat yard as to what I want done.
Still need to sand the deck and paint on that Tuff Stuff antiskidd paint. Wife will be out of town as well, so thats the whole weekend to work. No rain !!

[TheTinMan]

\ Will be showing up with a gallon of white hull paint


:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( ??? ::)

[willy]

At this point in these conversations Tin it is best not to ask ;)

[reelapeelin]

Well, he did say no anti-foul...train hasn't left the station yet... ;)...

[Airslot]

For the love of god don't paint that boat. If it's anything like it looks in the pictures it needs nothing more than a compound and wax. Guys, it looks like maybe an intervention is in order. I hope to go up Friday or Sunday w/ a trailer for him. Maybe I can talk to him about this paint.

Airslot

[Skools Out]

you'd better be there Friday hurry hurry Air ??? ??? ???

[msbhammer]

Just finished night shift, Wanted to work on it today, but slept the day away and still abit chilly. Weekend is suposed to be better.
As far as paint goes for the hull, I picked up the book at West Marine and has paint for the hull that can be brushed on and looks like a spray job ?? anybody ever use this stuff before. The hull has ALOT of dings here and there. Figured if I repaired at the dings, it might look like a boat with a bad case of the chickin-pox. ;D

[TheTinMan]

If your painting because of dings try some gel coat repair from here: http://minicraft.com/

Paint that hull and you are going to get keel hauled from us all ;D

[willy]

Tin where is the shark am I to believe you need a bigger boat because of the T!T load your carrying :D

[parishht]

:-/ Finally got up the nerve to post.

I was wondering, since the topic of anti-foul came up, the guy who owned my boat before me put the anti-foul on. Is there a way to take it off???

My V20 is mostly on trailer being in and out of the same water all the time. Whne I wash off, the anti-foul just makes a mess of the un-coated surfaces, so I would just like to remove it.

[willy]

parish check the search engine for this subject, been discussed a few times including with me.
the jist of it is this, you can remove it with chemical stuff of different manufactures with varied degrees of difficulty for all of them. but with all of them it is a ball bustin time consuming job and you need to wear eye and skin protection. it is the preferred way to do it if you wish to preserve the general gel coat shine and finish of your original hull.
the other alternatives are to have it soda sand dry ice blasted, obviously less or no work on your part but expensive at least in my area 600 - 1000 on our size boats. other drawback is afterwards you really need to paint the hull with one of the good clear or white barrier coat type paints as the gel coat does not have the same outer finish
you pays your money and you make your choices ;)

[Skools Out]

*Some guy online said, "muriatic acid should take it right off". *Well, he was right, but it also took off his new bottom paint *:o


Hey Parishht
*BR said this you could try it and let us know.

[msbhammer]

Parish,
Your boat looks like Mulvs. Boat ???
Mulv, you sell your boat and didnt tell us ?? ;D :D

[TheTinMan]

Tin where is the shark am I to believe you need a bigger boat because of the T!T load your carrying :D


Nah...I just duct tape her to the deck and......voila! Instant full flotation, unsinkable tin boat! 8)

[willy]

It looks like when she is exhaling in that avitar she could huff and puff you right over, forget flotation you should hoist a sail

[msbhammer]

Tinman...Help, I'm drowning !!, toss her my way for a few days !!! ::) :o ;D

[parishht]

Thanks for the info.

Whchever method I try to remove the anti-foul, it will not matter that I take off the bottom coating, there are some big gouges I need to fix.

It is a sad story how I acquired the boat.
I have a trailer in Lewes Del.
Neighbor in park's wife has cancer.
Life changing event for him.
Sold me the boat because he knew I would be able to take care of the boat and use it like he did.

[Mulv80]

I still got her Hammer, although that *does look alot like my boat. *I think this may be the weekend for the first splash. *I'll let all know how it went.

[willy]

Just use it in good health Parish ;)

[msbhammer]

Mulv. Let us know how the big splash goes. And take some pics !!! ;D