Motor has no power

[macojoe]

1989 Yamaha 175 Hp, has full battery, power T&T work with motor switch.

But at controls there is no power to the Gauges, Key, T&T??

I hate boats!!!

[bigshrimpin]

MJ - Check the wiring from the harness to the gauges . . . make sure everything is snug. I have a vauge recallection of a disconnected blue wire that cause me to have the same trouble on my yamaha 200.

[macojoe]

Will do tomorrow, Thanks Boss

[Seacrets]

Is wiring harness plug inside the motor cover loose or unplugged? Do you have a master fuse on the motor?
Good luck MJ.

[Skools Out]

wax the boat that will fix it

[Airslot]

Every motor I've ever had has had an inline fuse alongside the power head. Check that as well.

Airslot

[Blue_Runner]

I don't know if the Yammies have the fuse or not? Hard to tell from my stupid DESK! MJ hates boats and I hate WORK!

[Skools Out]

the 1 thing we all like/love FISHING

[macojoe]

Ok I have put full charged battery in the boat, I still have the same thing going on??

I have checked the fuse and it is fine.

I have checked all wires that I think should have power, and all I have is power from battery to square box on the motor, from the square box to the trim, I also have power in one wire in the big wire harness, Color is unknow as it is in the big black harness.

I have checked the blue wire as BS said, all is connected well at the gauge and the control box??

I hate eletric!!!!!!!!!!! I suck at it, and at this point I would rather sell then fix!

I hate doing things I have no idea how to do!

Anyone have a match?? >:(

[bigshrimpin]

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard/service/viewmanuals/viewmanuals.aspx?ls=outboard

MJ - Do you have a service manual?

if not . . . look at the online manuals . . . it won't have your year, but it has a troubleshooting section. Could be a key switch or neutral saftey switch or even kill switch?

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard/service/viewmanuals/viewmanuals.aspx?ls=outboard

[macojoe]

Thanks BS, I have the book, and was just on the phone with CB, he said the same thing on the neutral saftey switch!!

I am going to be pulling the control box tomorrow, to see what I might see??

:-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

[Seacrets]

Hey MJ. Turn the battery switch on. Only kidding. ;)

[Bygracealone]

MJ, this may be a silly question at this point, but are you certain the shifter is completely in the neutral position?

[reelapeelin]

and the safety shut-off clip is in place... :)...

[macojoe]

yes the shifter in in neutral, the safety cord is in place, and I have no battery switch.

I will go out this afternoon when it warms up, it was 30 overnight and its 39* right now, going to be cloudy and a warm 50 to 55* today, with a 10 to 15 NE wind
Man I love New England!! >:(

[macojoe]

Well theres good news and bad news, I took control all apart and played with everything.
WD40) everything and NSS was ok and then I started playing with the S Kill Sw and that had a problem with not coming out all the way.
Cleaned it and pushed pulled and the thing turned over!!

Great all fixed!! *Put all back toghter and tryed to start, but was turning slow, jumped started and was a bit better, but I still did not get it to kick, when it went back to the same problem *>:( *No power to the helm again!!

So I played with the safty again again again and nothing???

Did it go all toghter??

But I was so pissed off I started to throw things and decided to wait for CB, he said he would come to help me with it, and I said it was all fixed, but he said he would take the ride any way. What a great guy wants to hang with the Maco!! :-*

I haven't told him that its dead again as he went out with the mrs tonight.

OK later

[willy]

Love is Bliss ;D ;D

[Mac_Attack]

MJ take slow and easy like the old bull. You'll get her fixed! Bill Mc ;D

[macojoe]

Yes slow, I will have it all set I am sure by next week,

I better as the Squid have already started to show and they will be in real heavy in another 2 weeks!

Just going to bi-pass the switch, and have a good look at the battery and starter.

Going to get it started here when this week for sure!

[reelapeelin]

Hope CB's bringin' his face-guard and catcher's mit :o...Norton Cup might be handy, too ::)...

Hey now there's a name for a fishin' tournament...The 1st Annual Norton Cup... ;) 8)...everybody keep a runnin' total of lbs this season...most lbs wins fishin' trip w/ MJ!!...bring grease!! ;D ;D...

[macojoe]

everybody keep a runnin' total of lbs this season...most lbs wins fishin' trip w/ MJ!!...bring grease!! ... ;D ;D

I hate grease!! I use Bunker Oil :P :-*

[reelapeelin]

It certainly would SMELL better ::)...

[macojoe]

Well the motor is alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D Cb came down today and we or he used his tester to check all the wires and we found that there is a break some were in on wire??
Said to hell with it and just ran a new one!!

Started right up and rans like a champ!! Till CB put in gear, and, the prop hit a pipe on the ground :o Sounded like the motor blew at first!!

Should have seen his face "PRICELESS"!! What is ity with him and my props??

Pic to follow!~

[Blue_Runner]

Whew! I thought you were going to have to wrap a rope around the flywheel there for a minute....

Glad you gotter to work Maco!

Blue

[macojoe]

CB, Looking confused! It was a little touchy for awhile, thank god I bought the manual for this motor when I got it!!

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_235.jpg

10 pounds of wires in a 5 pound box :o

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_238.jpg

CB getting ready to clean the Bunker oil off *:P Note the smile on his face!!

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_239.jpg

and the clean up

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_240.jpg

And whatn do you know it works!! ;D *It ended up being the red wire from the CDI unit to the control box. Must be broken some were in the line?
We decided the best wat to deal with it was to just run a new wire right from the CDI to the control box.

Better then trying to tear the harness apart and getting into a real nightmare!!


http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_241.jpg

The Boss is checking to see if all is ok!

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_242.jpg

Thanks CB!!!!!!!!!!! Couldn't have done it with out ya!! :-*

[chumbucket]

My pleasure Bud. Now, it's Squid time! That boat should have some serious ink on the decks next week.

And BTW, the red wire was to the voltage regulator. Once we ran a new wire, that baby fired right up nice. A bit smokey after the long winter, but she cleared up and idled down just fine. 8)

[msbhammer]

Great pictures Mac. I'll be pulling my control box off in a short time as well. Need to replace the tilt trim switch in the handle.
BTW, your boat looks pretty damm good with that bottom paint. ;D

[macojoe]

My pleasure Bud. Now, it's Squid time! That boat should have some serious ink on the decks next week.

Thats what they make soap and water for! ;D

And BTW, the red wire was to the voltage regulator. Once we ran a new wire, that baby fired right up nice

Regulator, CDI what ever!! It works! ;D

[willy]

Thanks for saving Mr. Bitterman CB, would have been a lotta Wind Talking the next couple of weeks if he didn't get that boat in the water ;)

[Blue_Runner]

That my friends is how to do a "Repairs" post...

-State and record yer problem in a new post.
-BS around with alot of us that don't know our butt from a hole in the ground
-Bring in an expert to diagnose and fix problem
-Record the analysis and developement phases with digi cam
-Post all and try to edumacate the masses
-Post jabs at expert for comedic value in post
-Thank expert and promise to give a kiss next time he comes over :o

Nice goin MJ and CB! Now ink that deck up will ya?!!

[macojoe]

Thanks, it was a 2 person job for sure!!

We had to pull the plug in the motor, and then run a long wire from the meter to me I would touch one end and CB the other end the control box, till we found the broken one.

Good thing CB can read the schematic!!

It took awhile to figure out what to do, and there were 10 wires to check.

[chumbucket]

Slow and steady.......... ;)

[macojoe]

Slow and steady.......... ;)

Thats the way CB likes it!! Adding Bunker oil a little at a time :-*

[reelapeelin]

That Bunker Oil works even better iffn' ya heat it up a mite ;) ...