View Full Version : Todays test Run
msbhammer
05-16-2006, 07:01 PM
Didnt expect to take her out today, but the guy at the boat yard who helped me load her, said, LETS DO IT !!.
So excuse the mess in the boat. The boat was loaded with all my tools and stuff for the trip home. She started up on the second try. Starter spun ??
She ran great, plenty of water out the exhaust, but still not as much as I wanted to see coming out of teh pee hole, New water pump coming along with new volt and water psi guage. She rode great, the motor was smooth running. My friend did notice the the motor turned sharper to one side the to the other side, about a 2 inch differnce. Might need a longer arm he said ?
Still need to bolt the seats down, patch and paint inside, but I gotta tell ya all, being out there on the water, I totally forgot about the "Things to get done List" I had a big old ghrin on my face. I was loving it. The stress just dropped 75 percent. Even with the dinged up prop, she ran really well. Steering slightly stiff, but some of the wifeys sex lube and it'll be fine ;D
Bad thing is I'm busy all week until Sunday. But I'll be taking her out for sure on Sunday !!!.
Need to work on the enclosure and the dive platform. My booty is waiting for me out there on some unknown wreck.
Enjoy all the pics.
The guy driving is the yard guy.
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msbhammer
05-16-2006, 07:02 PM
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05-16-2006, 07:04 PM
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05-16-2006, 07:05 PM
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05-16-2006, 07:06 PM
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msbhammer
05-16-2006, 07:07 PM
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msbhammer
05-16-2006, 07:09 PM
Bringing her out of the water :'( :'( :'( :'(
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msbhammer
05-16-2006, 07:09 PM
P.S. Airslots Trailer. Thanks Bro !! ;D ;D ;D
msbhammer
05-16-2006, 07:10 PM
Finaly back home.
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msbhammer
05-16-2006, 07:13 PM
Happy as hell !!!
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msbhammer
05-16-2006, 07:14 PM
The Grin of RELIEF !!
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msbhammer
05-16-2006, 07:16 PM
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msbhammer
05-16-2006, 07:45 PM
Does this earn me the rigt to wear my V-20 tee shirt with Pride !! ;D
macojoe
05-16-2006, 08:31 PM
Yes it does!!
Good Deal!!
Did you open it up at all?? The motor will piss better when you get on it.
You may or may not need a pump, But they say, When in Doubt, Do it!!
don't sweat the little things!! Just get going!! It takes me 3 to 4 years to get a boat the way I want it. Its trial and error.
But here in Ma. I only get to use it 4 to 5 months of the year to use it to see how I want things.
chesapeake724
05-16-2006, 08:44 PM
Lookin' good, man! 8)
msbhammer
05-16-2006, 08:55 PM
Whew. Things are finally starting to look good. ;D ;D
Blu_Lunch
05-16-2006, 09:04 PM
Lookin' good I'm glad everything is working well, mine is ready to take out for the first time IF it ever stops raining 9 days and counting.....Ted
msbhammer
05-16-2006, 09:04 PM
Mac, she was peeing abit better when I throttled up on her. Tac was reading 5200, good or bad, dont know ???
Below the pee hole, there are to rectangular ports, exhaust they look like . they were blowing out alot of water really well. Looked at the receipt on when the lower unit was serviced, says impeller was replaced. $25.00.
I called the guy up and he said the Water Pump is about $150.00 and the impeller is part of the pump.
I'll be dropping it off to him next week and we will go from there. So hopefully in two more weeks I'll get some more work done.
Blu_Lunch
05-16-2006, 09:52 PM
What Merc do you have? Can't tell by the pics......
msbhammer
05-16-2006, 10:00 PM
Have a 200 Black Max Mercury. 1986 I believe.
captbent
05-16-2006, 10:36 PM
;D ;Dhey she looks great nice job. have a great season out there on the water( stay safe )
willy
05-16-2006, 11:28 PM
MSB nice job brother, take that pretty lady for a long ride and enjoy. Good luck with her (the boat) ;)
macojoe
05-17-2006, 12:35 AM
water pump kit complete for 200 merc. $32.98
http://www.iboats.com/mall/index.cgi?category_id=216822&cart_id=468290067&ses sion_id=667016764&view_id=173885
Mulv80
05-17-2006, 12:48 AM
Glad to hear everything went well. *I think that Merc may have a couple more Rpms in her if your not happy with performance. *5200 rpm isnt bad but I think with a high reving Merc you can get a few more grand out of her. *The boat looks good on the water, enjoy.
msbhammer
05-17-2006, 01:14 AM
Mac, hmm big cost differnce from the $150.00 he quoted.
Hmmmmm, he is a Johnson and Evinrude motor repair guy. Maybe he doesnt know how to install a merc. pump. I can only guess that they are all about the same, wouldnt you agree.
msbhammer
05-17-2006, 02:03 AM
Willy.
Look forward to taking long rides on both my toys :-X
Captbent: I guess we are now classified as 
V-20 P-40 Wellcrafts ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
shicks007
05-17-2006, 08:02 AM
Looks great! nice top also. I like the short strut connecting it to the windshield, I'vs never seen one like that. Keep up the good work.
reelapeelin
05-17-2006, 08:43 AM
I'd say all the hard work you've put into her more than gives you license to wear the V-20 shirt w/ lots of pride... 8)...
That 1st splash and pushin' the throttle to get her outta the hole...you'll never forget... ;) ;D...
Airslot
05-17-2006, 09:17 AM
Lookin Great my man. On that w/pump, if you buy the entire kit from the dealer your looking at 50-60 bucks for housing, seals, impeller, key, and gaskets. I'd assume the 150 quoted was installed and while not cheap, is probably a fair price to have it done. IF you've got them time, do it yourself. The more you learn about her the better you'll feel out there. I think tha motor is rated at 5000-5500 rpm's. So, your not bad in that department. She's probably got a 19p prop? Lookin good...
Airslot
Stinky_Hooker
05-17-2006, 10:15 AM
Awesome bro!! Glad you finally got it goin!!! 8)
macojoe
05-17-2006, 11:07 AM
well if you are getting a installed pump then thats the price difference.
But if he is charging you $150 just for the pump then forget it!!
They are not hard to change, I am doing a Yamaha as we speak! 
Start to finish about 30min, if your first time 1 hour you all set to go!
Blue_Runner
05-17-2006, 11:43 AM
Good job Hammer!  I remember the day I lost my V20 virginity 8)
I agree with MJ. Also, I wouldn't replace the housing unless it looked like it needed it. Only the impeller. A few of us on here could probably walk you through the process. I don't know how the shift linkage is on Mercury (you probably have to disconnect it somehow), but other than that its just a matter of taking out bolts and dropping the lower unit off so you can slip the new impeller into place. Then you just put it back on.
I'd say 100 bucks sounds more reasonable considering alot of those places charge 70 bucks an hour. Add in the 30 bucks for parts and 1 hour labor - I wouldn't pay over $100 for that job. Tell them you don't want the housing replaced unless it is scored and/or heavily worn. ;)
msbhammer
05-17-2006, 12:56 PM
Hey Blue, thats what the repair guy said the first time, said the pump didnt looked scorned or needed replacing, just the impeller.
msbhammer
05-17-2006, 12:59 PM
Thanks Stink:, maybe now you might keep your V-20 ???
Airslot. yes, I have a 14-19 prop thats dung up abit. So hopefully a bit more performance with a new prop.
Stinky_Hooker
05-17-2006, 01:48 PM
Thanks Stink:, maybe now you might keep your V-20 ???
Negative bro, Id love to, but I am elbow deep in improvements on the 18 right now. Its just not that practical for me at this time.
I might buy a newer complete one down the road a ways though. 8)
Im a V20er at heart though!! :D
Airslot
05-17-2006, 02:27 PM
Yiou don't have to disconnect any linkage on the Mercs. Just 5 nuts and the bolt under the torgue tab and she slides right off. This first time I'd do the housing just so you know, If it ever ran dry it can distort the housing slightly. Might not see it with naked eye but might not perform as new. After all this work I know you ain't gonna slide for a difference of $30 or so for the heart of your engines cooling supply.
Airslot
macojoe
05-17-2006, 03:13 PM
The site I sent you has the housing and all for $30 something plus shipping.
You have done all the hard work, you can handle a job this easy no sweet!!
Might as well learn!! I hate having to rely on the crooks at the mariners!
Blue_Runner
05-17-2006, 04:48 PM
Shift linkage is IMO the hardest part on a Johnnyrude, so this Mercury sounds like a piece of cake! Do it do it do it!!!
Hammerhead
05-17-2006, 06:44 PM
Congrats on a job well done. Those Jaws are gonna scare up some baitfish I bet.
steelheader13
05-17-2006, 11:28 PM
Looks great, congrats on the maiden voyage.
msbhammer
05-17-2006, 11:40 PM
Hope to have the custom dive platform installed next week.
bigshrimpin
05-18-2006, 05:53 AM
MS - Nice looking boat!! See if you can find a Merc Laser 2 - 19pitch on ebay . . . you'll turn that motor another 400rpm's.  
$150 . . . for the water pump is typical shop labor rate. (He might include replacing the seals . . . but I doubt it for that price) 
Replacing the impleller is a snap . . . . The PIA part is putting the lowerunit back on. Having to support the 50lb unit while you line up the shiftshaft and water tube is not fun. If you have an engine hoist or a buddy the hold the lower unit in place then you're golden. Shift shaft is the same setup as the Yamaha . . . The only difference b/w a merc and others . . . is that you have to run a 3" bead of hightemp sealant b/w the exhaust and the water pump housing.
bigshrimpin
05-18-2006, 06:15 AM
Mac, she was peeing abit better when I throttled up on her. Tac was reading 5200, good or bad, dont know ???
Below the pee hole, there are to rectangular ports, exhaust they look like . they were blowing out alot of water really well. 
This is normal for merc's some of the water is used to cool the exhaust . . . Water spray/spit will come out of those ports. 
The wimpy water pump action is a result of the poppet valve. When the motor comes up to TEMP the valve opens up (from pressure) and water flows freely out the pee-hole. This is also normal. Some people remove that valve . . . If you do a search on mercury poppet valve and you'll get more info than you ever wanted.  
http://www.biggerhammer.net/mercury/waterflow_89newer_2.4_2.5_blizzard.jpg
msbhammer
05-18-2006, 12:01 PM
Shrimp !!, did you draw all that by hand just for me ;D ;D
Great stuff, I printed it out. So do the Merc"s or do the Yammies need the high heat sealant ??
Many thanks !!
bigshrimpin
05-18-2006, 01:13 PM
Just the Merc's!! 
When you pull the lower off . . . there is a small bridge b/w the section where the water pump housing is and the section where the exhaust exits the gearcase housing. You just need to run a short bead across that bridge when you're putting the lower unit back on.
msbhammer
05-18-2006, 07:23 PM
Hey, what about gas. I was told "I think" to mix 1 quart to every6 gallons of gas. Or was it to 12 gallons of gas.
Any oil mixers out there who can help. :P
I'll search E-Bay tonight for the 19inch prop. Thanks : )
macojoe
05-18-2006, 08:51 PM
16 oz to 6gal gas
bigshrimpin
05-18-2006, 09:01 PM
Good Merc Site. 
http://www.biggerhammer.net/mercury/
I quart to 12 gallons I'm a fellow mixer. That boats lookin good man. And these Mercs dont pee hard like those white boys. I put a new impeller, gaskets and Thermostats yearlyand it still won't pee for a couple minutes everytime and then it would'nt put anybodys eye out. 8)
bigshrimpin
05-19-2006, 01:14 AM
Merc's hold their pee until the system builds up enough pressure . . . Then the poppet valve lets go !!  Uhhhhaaaaahhhhh . . . . ;)
msbhammer
05-19-2006, 01:25 AM
Damm I do love this site. I get more information from this site then I do from my Play Boy collection. ;D
Thanks Guys !! :P
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